Discussing the Armor Changes

ExecutorDill·Aug 5, 2015·2 votes·243 views

Looking at the changes on the pbe today and I must say.... It seems like judgement day has finally came :/

- Though I'll miss the health and armor Randuin's gave. I can see where riot are going with this "general purpose item". The -10% crit damage is what tanks really need. Mid Game Item Now make a -10% Armor pen item! Lol.

. I'm really Sad about what happen to this item. It's completely shit tier now. Riot doesn't care about synergy with Armor Tanks , they just want to remove everything standing in the way of AD carries. Don't Buy

- I have witnessed how strong frozen heart is... I just don't take it often because the only tank I really mained was and you know... Mana ... Energy. But the one time I did try it I was up against a Lee Sin and wrecker him with the armor and shield spamming xD ... The he wrecked me :/

5 Comments

LilxPaprikaAug 5, 20152 votes

i still think lack of lifesteal early to mid game is the main issue not armor. (refering mainly to adc's that can't afford to complete bt). aka item 1053 still costing 800 gold despite only giving 8% ls. This explains more indepth

I also don't think its healthy to have so much lifesteal be obtained via an elixir.

ExecutorDillAug 5, 20151 votes

Hmm, I play adc's and wreck ppl before getting a drop of lifesteal. But maybe its because I Generally only play mobile ones like Lucian Vayne Ezreal . You4 observation is worth looking into though.

VoidgolemAug 5, 20152 votes

my take on the changes:

If these changes are to make way for "strong new defensive items", put those in already. Don't just give us the awful news first and then leave the community to rage about it for a lengthy period of time.

ExecutorDillAug 5, 20151 votes

Agreed.

LilxPaprikaAug 5, 20151 votes

Well vayne should be okay for sustain with bortk particularly with 1 doran. Ez has triforce so a bit less squishy and quite safe adc. Lucian on other hand was hit harder by vamp scepter nerf and lifesteal quint nerf ( while ago now).

ADCs are just more dependent on support early game now. Finding people are less keen on playing adc nowadays, a lot is expected of them yet they get focused and if support is off their game have little mean of sustain. So its not that fun playing adc atm. Its really the early game though. Late is fine, but adc having the costlier itemization pool it can be painstaking to get there.

To make things worse the armor issue is mostly felt early game (armor being easy to get early) and pen i short supply early. last whisper is fine late. Esp with new black cleaver. Hence why I think lifesteal would benefit from ignoring say 20% of their armor (this could apply if above certain amount say 80 armor) Similar to how new wota ignore 100% resistances. Or progressively starts at 50armor lifesteal ignores .5% per 5 additional armor cap at 20%.

This could be factored before lastwhsiper and BC?