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Kai'Sa a week later.

Zerenza··4 votes·422 views

Win Rate's

Jungle: 40% Mid: 43% ADC: 43%

Uhm i think it's safe to say she's probably not very good, she does have a skill cap but she's an ADC so her skillcap isn't as high as other champions like her, and her abilities seem to be causing problems which i'm about to go over.

Role: It's hard to put her in any role right now, which i'll go into and explain a little bit more bellow. Basically, she lacks the range to be a good ADC, she doesn't have good enough tools to fight back in that role against 2 people and has a tendency to lose early which destroys her Mid-Game(even though mid-game is her strongest point.). She doesn't have the Clear Speed to be a jungler, or the gank power to do it either due to having no dashes or stuns on a low cooldown. In mid lane she lacks the burst to be an assassin even though her playstyle heavily pushes her towards assassinating.

Range- She's to short ranged to be a good ADC with her current tools, just to give some context, most champions with range as low as her's in the ADC role have something to offset that, siver for example has a long range, fast moving skillshot and Ricochet to hit enemies in minion waves by bouncing. Lucian has a fairly low cooldown dash, along with Vayne and Kindred. Also, kog'maw's base range is 500 too but as we know he has a range Steroid, so does tristana. This makes it really hard to play her successfully in the ADC role because she can't properly fight back against most other ADC's due to lack of range, but this doesn't get into her abilities.

Q: Icathian Rain

This ability is garbage, the reason why is that while, yes it does deal good damage, it has a very small range and doesn't prioritize champions. This ability is also her strongest Damage Wise but is basically useless in lane unless you can find a way to get the enemy away from their minions(If their smart they won't get away from the minions.

An idea i liked was having this Prioritize targets with Plasma, so if there are none, it works the same, if you have an enemy champion marked with Plasma, it will fire all bolts at them. This will increase her Burst enough to make a viable assassin in Mid Lane while also increasing her Trading power in Bot Lane.

W: Void Seeker

It's got a slow missile speed but i'v found this ability to be pretty helpful in those rare ocassions when the enemy bot lane got away and you actually had them low enough to do finish them off with this ability. Otherwise it doesn't really work well as an engage tool to catch someone out beccause even if Kai'sa hit a Lone ADC in the jungle, she probably won't kill them.

E: Supercharge

Probably her best ability, extremely useful, no changes and no complaints.

R: Killer Instict

It's good for what it does, wish the cooldown wasn't so long though.

Item's: Nothing really feels good enough on her, Guinsoo's is the closest we have but that's getting reworked soon anyway and probably won't be good enough afterwards anyway. Building Crit on her feels bad because she lacks the range to do anything in teamfights, and would have to put herself in a lot of danger to do any meaningful damage off of a crit based build. Lethality feels the best honestly because it synergizes the most with her kit when playing her Mid Lane but due to how her Q works, this isn't very viable either.

Conclusion: Kai'Sa is an...ok ADC but her lack of range really damper's her ability to do well in the role and she's pretty useless in teamfights when building as an ADC even with Guinsoo's based builds that synergize well with her Passive and E. Her Mid Lane role is the most promising because she has better match ups there due to her range and if you build her Lethality you can make great use of her Q, W and R along with her passive, but she lacks full burst due to how her Q functions so trading in mid lane can be really difficult just like it is in bot lane, her roams can be extremely deadly though but again that Q just keeps holding her back because of it's inability to prioritize champions.

What i think riot should do-

Push her closer to Mid Lane and give her a QOL buff on her Q that prioritizes champions marked by Plasma, the winrates for both mid and ADC are really close to eachother but her usefulness drops off A TON once she has to teamfight, along with that building Crit and ADC based builds don't work well with her anyway because of her lack of range, so making her an Mid-Lane Assassin ADC makes the most sense.

Current PBE Buffs: Range increases on her Q and Base Range increase to 525, but this still won't fix her main issue, her Q, lack of trading potential because of her Q and her lack of team fighting ability(Her range is still too low to benefit from Crit or Hybrid builds, 525 would not make her an ADC, she'd need to have a range of at least 600 to be of any use in her current state.).

Current Best Kai'sa Player's from OP.GG

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=prototyp%C3%A9 http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=aarc0456 http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=inwprojectone

I'm pretty sure the last 2 are smurfs but something to keep in mind is that even games where these player's won their scores weren't all that great, if they were smurfs i'd expect MUCH higher KDA's and win rates than this, and in a lot of those games they weren't the one carrying the game either despite their sometimes impressive scores. This is important because despite them being really good with the champion already, they can't perform well in Bot Lane because of the champions lack of synergy in the role.

11 Comments

Phieldworker4 votes

I think her ult should reset cd on a kill/assist kind of like Darius’. And if you don’t kill someone else in a small window it goes on regular cooldown. That way it isn’t one time use in a team fight and she can dive around more. It won’t be broke because the risk factor of putting an adc in melee range isn’t the high risk high reward factor.

Venompaw3 votes

Kai'sa is fine. One of the strongest duelists in the game.

Zerenza1 votes

Being a good duelist is useless as an ADC, 90% of the time you won't be alone and neither will the enemy ADC, also she isn't good enough to beat melee duelists because of her lack of power with AA resets or ability damage. Her ultimate is really good as a base line shield but it won't do anything to stop other great duelists like Fiora, Tryndamere and even Vayne, she just doesn't have the ability to and she works best as an assassin because of the nature of her kit.

Zerenza1 votes

Oh i should also mention that she loses out to most other ADC's who build crit and outrange her, her range is a real problem against things like Varus, Draven, Tristana and such.

Luminev2 votes

She's getting buffed soon (Attack Range, Q Range, E movespeed increased and charge time reduced). Besides I have done pretty well as her on my alt. Although she still has a few bugs that can lose you fights she's not that bad. (Sometimes if you flash and then Q it will target the enemies at the location you were BEFORE you flashed).

Zerenza2 votes

The thing is those buffs dont' fix her glaring problems. The range increase won't help her at all, if she had a low cooldown Dash like Vayne or Lucian then sure, but she doesn't. She has no way to reach her opponent in bot lane and her lack of trading potential is a real hindrance to her success in the role, even with those range buffs she won't be able to do anything to anyone who's competent enough to know her glaring weaknesses, range, trading and teamfighting(all the things ADC should be GOOD at.)

Luminev2 votes

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The thing is those buffs dont' fix her glaring problems. The range increase won't help her at all, if she had a low cooldown Dash like Vayne or Lucian then sure, but she doesn't. She has no way to reach her opponent in bot lane and her lack of trading potential is a real hindrance to her success in the role, even with those range buffs she won't be able to do anything to anyone who's competent enough to know her glaring weaknesses, range, trading and teamfighting(all the things ADC should be GOOD at.)

Which is why she is getting an movement speed buff on her E. Every adc doesn't need a dash to be viable. Either way we need to see how these buffs affect her (I personally think these seemingly simple buffs will make her OP after playing Kai'sa on my alt as much as I have). But I think after these buffs Riot needs to wait another week or she may end up like Ornn.

Zerenza1 votes

I agree, every ADC does not need a dash. However, due to her lack of range she loses out pretty easily. A simple movement speed buff isn't going to get you into AA range if someone has 100-300 range over you, if they have a dash that's even worse.

Like it's definitely appreciated but it won't help her Bot Lane, the only time she'll be good is if ADC's loose 200 hundred range, then of course she'd be good, she'd have the same range and a MS boost, as it stands though she can't do anything to pretty much 90% of the roster in bot lane, even most of the Mages and Supports in botlane have higher range than her, making her easy to poke and therefore easy to push out of lane.

Basically, her Effective range is extremely low, she doesn't have an ability that works well enough to make up for her lack of AA range(like Sivir) and she doesn't have a way to increase her range(Caitlynn, Kog'maw), she also doesn't have a dash to increase her effective range(Lucian, Vayne) sooooo she's really bad at being an ADC since every other ADC has atleast one of these things, they can also use those thing Defensively and for example if she tries to run up on a Vayne, vayne just kite's back, just like any other ADC.

5050BS1 votes

Yep and it is still not enough. Her Weakness is that you build to get your Weapon Upgrades, as ADC Crit is God and crit does nothing for her kit.

Her Passive at 5!!! stacks to pop is the problem. If they lowered it to 3 and make it so Allies can only add a stack if the target has no stacks it would make a WORLD of difference.

Luminev1 votes

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Yep and it is still not enough. Her Weakness is that you build to get your Weapon Upgrades, as ADC Crit is God and crit does nothing for her kit.

Her Passive at 5!!! stacks to pop is the problem. If they lowered it to 3 and make it so Allies can only add a stack if the target has no stacks it would make a WORLD of difference.

It's really easy to get passive to proc as long as you can land your w. But I retract my statement from earlier. They're nerfing her W on PBE (An ability that was core to her and especially the hybrid builds). They're nerfing it's AP ratio into the gutter and buffing her Q AP ratio (A change that makes actually no sense)?

5050BS2 votes

Um just a week is not enough time to assess how a new champ or reworked champs power is.

Says everyone that has no clue how this game works and how FAST builds get tested.

She has the wrong pacing for all her Roles. All laners have faster power spikes then her and when she DOES get a power spike, its small. Nothing like other ADC

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