"I can't climb because I get shitty teammates!"

Marshbouy·May 13, 2018·55 votes·17,734 views

Somebody checks their op.gg 100+ games played, <50% winrate less than 5.5 cs/min KD ratio that is usually negative low kill participation

Hmmm, I wonder why you're not climbing!

EDIT: the fact that this post is currently at 26/13 for upvotes/downvotes is hilarious to me. 34/21 the jimmies have been rustled.

#This is not commenting on if ranked is fun or not. If you don't want to play ranked because you don't find it fun, then don't play ranked. It's not my job to tell you to do things that you don't find fun.

But please don't come to the boards asking "why can't I climb?" when you play like shit and blame everything that goes wrong on your allies.

154 Comments

PhearBunnyMay 13, 201811 votes

What if I have 100 games, a 60% winrate. Challenger CS. Overwhelmingly positive KD ratio. High kill participation. But cant get through gold 1 this season, because, yes, you guessed it. Teammates.

I cant carry low golds against high plats with the current state of the game, and anyone who does, got lucky, pure and simple. At plat level you win or lose at champ select, and or the teammate diceroll. There is no carrying.

Coopa123May 13, 20187 votes

Looks like 49% winrate gold 3 with very few games to me

PhearBunnyMay 13, 20183 votes

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Looks like 49% winrate gold 3 with very few games to me

I don't play this account at all. Look at the last time I played a game lol

MarshbouyMay 13, 201817 votes

Then link the account that you actually play on?

Coopa123May 13, 20187 votes

you played more games on this account than the one you posted. You contradict yourself with everything you say x)

remakoroMay 13, 201830 votes

You cannot NOT climb if you have 60% winrate... Thats not how it works...

option paralysisMay 13, 20182 votes

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You cannot NOT climb if you have 60% winrate... Thats not how it works...

I guess you never played in diamond. +16/-22, got into d2 series 5 times, and lost every game to first time autofills and now my mmr is sht, even though I still have a 60% win rate on udyr.

remakoroMay 13, 201810 votes

even though I still have a 60% win rate on udyr.

And on everyone else? Cuz you have to screw your MMR really big time to get such huge difference between points.

I guess you never played in diamond.

Yea. Im not willing to play more than 100 ranked games per season. And i dont have such overwhelming skill to land in dia with only 100 games.

ShaolinToiletMay 13, 20181 votes

Let's be real even if you played 500 games you wouldn't be diamond. It's a skill issue not an amount of games issue unless you're already high plat

remakoroMay 13, 20186 votes

Im not one of those "i deserve dia" So not gonna argue about that. If you dont have skill then even 1000 games wont get you to dia. People in bronze with 500 and more games per season good proof for that.

But if you do have skill then its amount of games issue. If you barely deserve d5 then getting there might take 500 games for example. If you have master tier skills then taking d5 will take much less.

Z3SleeperMay 13, 20184 votes

Lmao poor thing, logic is scarce sometimes. RIP PhearBunny 2018.

Gear JammerMay 13, 201811 votes

im not climbing cause i always get this one shitty teammates... i know im not supposed to name and shame but his name is Gear Jammer... my gosh he always ruins my games.

Son FokuMay 13, 20188 votes

Can confirm had him in a game

Brain Errör 404May 13, 20187 votes

Nah, pretty sure it's mostly me getting potato teams.

Ariel the CruelMay 13, 20183 votes

You should try the tomato league. It's a lot more easy-going.

AzadetheMay 13, 20187 votes

Here's my thoughts:

Take a Platinum player. Put them in Silver V.

Compare the rates of climb when they get reset to ~ Gold II on new Season placements vs the Silver Climb.

It's likely going to take them 200-300 more games to climb 5 Brackets on the Silver than their Gold II.

Why?

Silver V is like a Lottery. it's not about skill, or discipline, split pushing OR team play. It all goes out the window.

Even if you have an illusion of skill in that elo, where your team dominates 25 to 5, that's usually all it is. An Illusion. Some or a couple on your team managed to get a very early First Blood/snowball, and create the illusion of a skill match, supported by gear and the charisma given to a team by a lead.

And no matter how skilled you are in that elo..... a lottery team results in situations where unless you're playing a perma reset champ like Yasuo Vayne MasterYi Akali Khazix Katarina Irelia ..... you still at best barely pull 50% win rates, even if you historically have 65% Kill participation and a 8 KDA.

The problem arrives from the fact that literally 55% of the population is in Silver, and about 20% are Bronze. About 75% of the community isn't actually learning game proficiencies. They are playing by impulse/for "fun." and many just play retaliatory toward teammates who offend them.

So..... technically..... in some cases.... Yes. Shitty teammates do prevent climbs. However, in some of those cases, it's also the complainer.

I've been Plat II or better since Season 4. But..... I have 3 perma bans. I've had accounts start at Silver/Bronze to insufferable placements. Whereas I can go Gold V to Plat IV in about 100 games, Silver accounts I sometimes don't even get up to Gold in 300-400 games, because gameplay in silver is entirely different than in Gold or Plat.

Plat: Quick to take advantage of team mistakes, but generally cautious lane phases, and laners help ward for junglers. Routinely buys Control Wards, and tries to keep early game deaths to a minimum. The game usually doesn't break out until after about 12 minutes.

Gold: Usually quick to take advantage of team mistakes, but often gets caught in Yolo lane skirmishes which starts a lane snowball. However, Junglers usually help compensate and minimize that poor decision making, softening it out. Covers junglers about 70% of the time. Buys some Control wards, and tries to keep game deaths to a minimum..... until the snowball starts. Game USUALLY doesn't break out until 10 minutes, but often drives hard to end the game once it does. Hard to stop the snowball.

Silver: No one's really taking advantage of team mistakes. Instead they make a contest of who can make the least mistakes. Often gets tunneled on farming or pvp, or on base defense, but not all at the same time (Not multitaskers). They ward for themselves, or don't ward at all. They don't usually care about protecting a jungler at all, but still expect the jungler to be in their lane at all times. Junglers do not know how to use Drakes/objectives for the most part. Bot laners don't know that Drakes are team objectives, and almost ALWAYS recall when a Drake window arises. Buys about 3 total control wards a game. They view deaths as inconveniences but don't ever try to avoid them. Almost all chase kills, and the supports/tanks often die in the process of trying to save the chasers.

Game often breaks out within 6 minutes, which sabotages cs rates, stable lane phases, and unless you are a hyper reset champ on a smurf, generally creates an entirely different game dynamic that's hard even for smurfs to adjust to. This means one team's adc is almost always useless because it takes twice as long to buy their first full item, which means csing is far less reliable. It means support's Levels are crippled by their adc's performances. It means Jungler's CS gets taken over by laners who care more about padding their gold than the fact they are bullying their own jungler's gold supply. It means almost all drakes are 1 team endeavors, because the losing team doesn't have enough pressure to even create a skirmish there, and the team's are usually not interested in congregating anyways.

The only real difference between Silver and Bronze? Silver players have moderate reaction times. Bronze doesn't react at all, and often freezes in place not knowing what to do.

DisembarkMay 13, 20185 votes

That’s bullshit dude.

I climbed from Bronze 1 to Plat last season, this season my other account that was in Silver (with not a good MMR, mind you), and I can easily win most of my games.

Contrary to what people believe in Silver, good KDA/cs DOES NOT equal carrying the gam. Carrying the game however usually means you have a good KDA and CS. Pulling 9 cs/min doesn’t mean shit if you can’t take towers, or make rotations in time to help your team. Having an amazing KDA doesn’t mean anything unless you know how to shove your advantage so far down the enemy’s throat that they’re bitching and moaning and crying in all chat.

It’s stupid easy to climb out of Silver. It gets harder to climb the closer to your actual elo you get.

AzadetheMay 13, 20181 votes

..... and this season you've played a total of some 15 Ranked games, and are still at the elo you placed at: Gold II.

Season 7 ranking was easy. I went 72% on this account before the Evelynn rework, which is why I made this account. I used to run AD Eve, so the rework needed a new account to practice on the rework.

It didn't help that 1) the new Evelynn wasn't designed for the old runes (she couldn't even survive in a Baron pit because she had no defenses, no way to heal, etc) and 2) October was the Season of the Elo boosting Challengers playing alts to pass time and make money. (Gold was filled with Challenger level players playing Zed Khazix JarvanIV who all own Eve's jungle pre 6 if they invade).

After encountering a ton of Elo boosters, My Eve plummeted clear down to 13%. Most of those games even had positive Eve Scores... but I couldn't carry vs these mobile smurfs.

I lost like 11 ranks in a row, because Evelynn was just so ill suited and unexplored. But.... by the end of Season 7, this throw away account had Eve up to something like 43%, so I did make a massive recovery. Was probably winning closer to 65% by the end.

And then I used this account to try out Zoe. That's pretty much what this account was for. Throw away to learn new champs. But..... on Sona/Nami: I was up 72% win rates.

That was season 7. The season where you could still pull large win rates.

This is Season 8. The season of Yi 1 shots and 4 Shield Yasuos and reduction of gold value/AP values for mages and overbuffed Thunderlord's Decree (Electrocute) which kills people before they can react. It's the season of 8 ways to mitigate AP damage, but Physical damage getting converted to True damage, and Melee's getting Guinsoo procs in 3 hits (1 in the case of Yi). It's the season of 7 Major nerfs to Supports in gold incomes, AP values, tankiness, and their early game kits, while at the same time, assassins get buffs and adc's get major duel buffs. It's the season of a major removal of viable agency among AP junglers, through mob HP restructures, damage, which affected their clear speed/sustain ( Nidalee was a 63% win pick in Season 7. Now she barely gets played at all and is something like 48%. It's the season of Tanks being able to do the same if not more damage than carries, making team fights almost always about 4-5 major damage sources.

The game is no longer really balanced. There's about 12 "must have on your team champs," or the game is going to strickly rely on major mistakes to create wins. Assuming everyone on your team is competent, those 12 champs run the games.

And I don't play those 12 champs.

Try climbing out of Silver with Evelynn. 3/4 of your games.... your team feeds 10 kills and entire bot pressure depriving you of drakes, a jungle, and farm. You might end up positive KDA every game, but Evelynn at that elo certainly doesn't create carry pressure. They also all push to the opposing turret, so there are no good ganks, which means you either have to wait on spawn or risk invading the other jungle, assuming the other jungler isn't fed. She's just an inconvenience.

I could easily climb with Ekko MasterYi Veigar Ahri , but I don't get to play mid, and I hate Yi with a passion (too damn easy). Thank goodness I'm D II on my main, and this account is banned.....

DisembarkMay 14, 20184 votes

D2 on your main but “smurfs” are holding you back.

Also stuck in Silver but you’re a “D2 level player”.

Lol.

SaezioMay 14, 20182 votes

If only people could just understand this. If you play more than 100 games of ranked and you are still silver it means you are a silver elo player. It is comically easy to dictate the pace of those games by making all the calls. The moment you understand that kills actually mean 0 you already can't be lower than gold 2-3.

EedatMay 13, 20189 votes

Errrr I'm just a mid gold player and on my other account I roflstomped my way through low Silver

I've been Plat II or better since Season 4.

No, you're a liar. Even on this account you're posting on was Silver 2 with close to 300 games played last season. Explain how an actual Plat 2 player cant climb through S5 when even me as a G4 player stomped through it with an 80% WR playing reckless as hell

AzadetheMay 13, 20181 votes

You're Silver I on this account. I don't know your other so I can't verify. But atm.... your claims look false.

I mean.... you even have a negative record in Season 7 on a hyper carry main which consisted of 95% of your games: MonkeyKing

EedatMay 14, 20183 votes

I've been Gold for 3 years and I've only done my placements on this account (admittedly they did not go well on this account). I dont play on this account much anymore because I have every single champ unlocked, 20 rune pages, and 100,000+ BE . So I play on my other accounts to unlock stuff on them because it seems like a waste. I just get all my account to gold at some point in the season for the skins

hyper carry main

I really hope you're joking. Wukong is a mid game champ that falls off late. If you have to know, my WR was low because I would dick around with my IRL firends who were Bronze in Flex on top of having just shit luck in Flex overall. Here is some proof. A thread I made last year on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/5p8zwc/i_have_a_73_winrate_in_soloq_but_an_18_winrate_in/

Here is the deal. I am currently S1 with a history of being Gold for multiple years claiming to be G4. You are a Silver player with a history of being Silver claiming you are Plat 2 'or better'. Do you not see the difference here?

AzadetheMay 14, 20181 votes

lmfao. Wukong in untrained elos is a monster. Supports/Adcs particularly can't do much about him at all when a top/jungler gave him a significant lead. He's not a Diamond champ but when you take into account full game calculus, he's a monster in Silver/Gold, near 1 hitting post Duskblade. Don't act like he's not a Silver/Gold carry.

I'm not Silver and never have been. This was exclusively a Test account for a favorite Champ rework which went on to play some Post season. Entire history of the account supports that, if you actually bother to follow it. It was literally played 3 1/2 Months, in End of Season play (by which point I had already got to Diamond II on my main). So while paid smurfs were boosting, I was making alts to learn new champs).

Contrary to your claim, mine's made out of an interest for anonymity. I don't want trolled in my main's games because it's used as a prolific forum poster. I don't care if you believe me or not. I just get annoyed that any argument you generally lose, you divert to "you're Silver garbage, wrong, end of story." And you do it in every thread. It'd be nice if you actually deferred to legitimate arguments.

EedatMay 14, 20183 votes

HMMMMMMMMMMM thats REALLY weird. You seem to imply how strong Wukong is in low ELO and complain about him. I thought you were Plat 2 at least where hes dogshit. Isnt that funny? Why would you, as a diamond player, be complaining about a low ELO champ? Why would a Diamond player be bitch about how hard it is to get out of Silver XD? HMMMMMMM sounds like you're actually low ELO just from perspective.

Wukong in untrained elos is a monster.

Lets take a look at that shall we?

http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/

50% WR in Bronze

52% WR in Silver

WOW WHAT A MONSTER kek

I'm not Silver and never have been.

BULL. SHIT. Silver 2 with THREE HUNDRED games played last season. Just stop with the complete fucking bullshit lies. They're awful and nobody would believe something that garbage. "Test account" bwahaha XD

SaezioMay 14, 20184 votes

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HMMMMMMMMMMM thats REALLY weird. You seem to imply how strong Wukong is in low ELO and complain about him. I thought you were Plat 2 at least where hes dogshit. Isnt that funny? Why would you, as a diamond player, be complaining about a low ELO champ? Why would a Diamond player be bitch about how hard it is to get out of Silver XD? HMMMMMMM sounds like you're actually low ELO just from perspective.

Lets take a look at that shall we?

http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/

50% WR in Bronze

52% WR in Silver

WOW WHAT A MONSTER kek

BULL. SHIT. Silver 2 with THREE HUNDRED games played last season. Just stop with the complete fucking bullshit lies. They're awful and nobody would believe something that garbage. "Test account" bwahaha XD

Mate, compulsive lying is an actual medical disease you can't just tell them to stop lying. Like telling a nympho to stop thinking about you know what. Or a smoker to not smoke xD

AzadetheMay 14, 20181 votes

No I am not Donald Trump. I'm a family guy, pretty religious, and I don't often lie at all (My wife is incapable of lying). Our son has Autism, although we believe it to be highly functioning and his only averse affect seems to be things related to verbal communication. We sometimes hear things that sound like mimic'd language, but we don't know if he's developing language or not. He's good at using an iPad, or touch, coordinated guesture, but hasn't started potty training (actually related to communication), and got an IEP to start Preschool this Year. At 3. We're hoping he can be on Track by 5 to join normal classes.

I'm very literal. If I'm misinformed about something, it's usually either something not worth investing the time in (game breakdown chat is nice and all, but when I have to provide a certain level of scientific explanation you're going to shoot down anyways, why proof-read everything, draft it, run a regression matrix, and test scientific hypothesis myself? That's hardly worth it. I do after all have to raise a special needs boy), or b) I'm just tired, should be going to bed, and write something poorly.

And then ofc, I am 33 years old, sometimes forget things accurately, or hybrid two memories together. Ever have that happen?

Personally, I'm pissed off at myself that I try to currently allow myself enough time a day to play 4-5 games. I usually don't even get that done right now, because of a busy schedule, and I can't play at peak performance when my Son or wife are within 2-3 rooms of me stomping around. I get mad at the distraction, throw a 80% performance, while I need 100% to carry my crap teams. That 20% often results in a loss, and then I just reek raging beast in real life. My wife doesn't like not being able to exist within the same room as me, so you can see how that rubs me raw.

And then I sit here, writing this garbage back and forth with you members of the Troll farm, while my son runs around the living room, not getting the needed extracurricular sit down lessons he needs to keep his brain on track. Watching him get better drawing on his MagnaDoodle. Get better and more accurate all the time (he won't be drawing stick figures. As an adult he'll probably be a Master Artist), yet getting raged because the amount at which he uses that MagnaDoodle has rendered its screen flexed, stretched, and less eraseable every day. I've already bought him 2, and he's ruined both with hundreds if not thousands of drawings.

I get him to appointments, but if I don't get him a 3 course meal set for dinner/lunch, and short cut with Pediasures/Fruits/Drinks, I get so pissed off at myself. That's substitute food. I hate that he even likes it. But that's what I sacrifice to allot time for this bullcrap.

I want to play, not write this crap. But my wife stays up until after Midnight, has OCD, has a checklist that takes an hour and a half to go through, invades my concentration, so I've just decided to type the game when I can't play it. And when she's not there, I have my Son, which I can't play while he's up either.

Typing I can pause. Playing I can't.

If you want to research the damn account history of this champ learning account, read my response to Eedat. It's F'in verifiable.

SaezioMay 14, 20184 votes

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No I am not Donald Trump. I'm a family guy, pretty religious, and I don't often lie at all (My wife is incapable of lying). Our son has Autism, although we believe it to be highly functioning and his only averse affect seems to be things related to verbal communication. We sometimes hear things that sound like mimic'd language, but we don't know if he's developing language or not. He's good at using an iPad, or touch, coordinated guesture, but hasn't started potty training (actually related to communication), and got an IEP to start Preschool this Year. At 3. We're hoping he can be on Track by 5 to join normal classes.

I'm very literal. If I'm misinformed about something, it's usually either something not worth investing the time in (game breakdown chat is nice and all, but when I have to provide a certain level of scientific explanation you're going to shoot down anyways, why proof-read everything, draft it, run a regression matrix, and test scientific hypothesis myself? That's hardly worth it. I do after all have to raise a special needs boy), or b) I'm just tired, should be going to bed, and write something poorly.

And then ofc, I am 33 years old, sometimes forget things accurately, or hybrid two memories together. Ever have that happen?

Personally, I'm pissed off at myself that I try to currently allow myself enough time a day to play 4-5 games. I usually don't even get that done right now, because of a busy schedule, and I can't play at peak performance when my Son or wife are within 2-3 rooms of me stomping around. I get mad at the distraction, throw a 80% performance, while I need 100% to carry my crap teams. That 20% often results in a loss, and then I just reek raging beast in real life. My wife doesn't like not being able to exist within the same room as me, so you can see how that rubs me raw.

And then I sit here, writing this garbage back and forth with you members of the Troll farm, while my son runs around the living room, not getting the needed extracurricular sit down lessons he needs to keep his brain on track. Watching him get better drawing on his MagnaDoodle. Get better and more accurate all the time (he won't be drawing stick figures. As an adult he'll probably be a Master Artist), yet getting raged because the amount at which he uses that MagnaDoodle has rendered its screen flexed, stretched, and less eraseable every day. I've already bought him 2, and he's ruined both with hundreds if not thousands of drawings.

I get him to appointments, but if I don't get him a 3 course meal set for dinner/lunch, and short cut with Pediasures/Fruits/Drinks, I get so pissed off at myself. That's substitute food. I hate that he even likes it. But that's what I sacrifice to allot time for this bullcrap.

I want to play, not write this crap. But my wife stays up until after Midnight, has OCD, has a checklist that takes an hour and a half to go through, invades my concentration, so I've just decided to type the game when I can't play it. And when she's not there, I have my Son, which I can't play while he's up either.

Typing I can pause. Playing I can't.

If you want to research the damn account history of this champ learning account, read my response to Eedat. It's F'in verifiable.

Sure pal, so no name of main yet.

big boi edriMay 14, 20182 votes

Wukong is a monster in low Elo though, I mean if you build him correctly. You get a duskblade and you’ve almost guaranteed the ADC on their team no longer exists.

Serika ZeroMay 14, 20182 votes

I actually did something similar to this.

First time I started playing lol I ended up in ranked in silver Next season in gold, next season in plat, and then stayed in plat (peaked at plat 3)

My op.gg account is pretty easy righty: http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=serika+zero

As you can see, I haven't played ranked on this main account since Season 6. But in season 6 I was a Diana , Akali main (playing mostly mid diana and top akali).

So, at the end of season 7, I was like: why don't I try to get plat with as little games as I can, and lets do that on my alt account where I only made when I wanted to learn jungle (and decided the best thing is to learn jungle, the role i suck with, from zero to "hero").

And this is the op.gg there: http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=alteraris

65% win rate, 25 games total -> and i got in plat 5. most games: top akali, one of two of them were mid akali and i definitely lost one of them

Now, you might argue: you are playing a braindead champion or other bullshit like that. But nope, look at my KDA, its under 3, it sucks. For a champion that is so called "feast or famine", that usually farms champions, I got quite the average KDA.

I could've picked Diana, I could've picked, Morgana, I could've picked Katarina, I could've picked Fiora, I could've picked, Trynda, I could've picked Janna, I could've picked MF, etc. I picked Akali for that series because at point in time, she was my best pick. And I enjoyed playing her. And I was familiar with all her mechanics as well as power spikes and her trading pattern (yes, akali has power spikes she isn't always god tier, akali has mechanics, etc).

If you got to plat on your own. And you are playing your main role/champion. You will climb up to plat with ease. There's no such thing as "elo hell" or "team mates hold me back".

Look, teammates as skilled as yours will usually be in the enemy team as well (with some random times smurfs come along). If you feel like your team mates are dragging you down every game, this means you cannot exploit the enemy teammates. So, you are not better than the enemy. That's all there is to it.

The stronger the enemy is, the more we rely on our team to deal with it. Therefore, once the enemy are around a similar level to ours, we start seeing more flaws in our teammates because we rely on them more. Hence, is not as much as your team mates holding you back. But the fact that you aren't better and you reached your "limit".

ps: as to why there's no games on those accounts, did I get banned or anything about 4 months ago? nop, just uninstalled the game

AzadetheMay 14, 20181 votes

Up to Season 7 had the Capability - if your initial placements started you well. Your earliest ranked games = your most LP per game you will every get.

If you played some 500+ Norm games to get your initial Placement matches in your very first season on an account to a good starting MMR, and got a 8/2-10/0 Placements, You could start ~ Gold V - Gold III.

From there, 25 games to Plat V isn't hard. You start with solid LP gains, good players (Gold players generally don't slack off in core competencies and are able to carry one bad actor), and yeah. I can believe that can result in a good climb.

But.... after this account got Banned in December, I made ANOTHER alt account. Had about a 68% win rate in Norms. I waited 2 1/2 weeks to rank its first season in Season 8.

I didn't wait long enough. By week 2 1/2 of Season 8, Placements were still full of int feeders and displaced account remakers (people who got banned, made new accounts, but were all in the same melting pot)

First 7 games literally had 3 people run it down the mid, because they didn't care about winning..... just about getting over their placements.... because they just expected to get placed like crap.

The other 4 games had 2-3 players who went 16 deaths or worse who either didn't care, or were just severely out of elo. Some of the games were 3 First Season placers. I think I even recall a Tristana who literally would freeze when she was embattled. Just.... stop moving.... stop attacking.... not know what to do.

That account got placed in Silver V.

You can't even Mathematically get to Plat V from Silver V in 25 games. That's not even enough games to get to Gold V winning 100%. You might reach Silver III, at which case you are still carrying 4 minute Turret loss Bronzies.

Also, Season 8 is a VERY different ranking beast than previous seasons. I've been around since Season 4. Go build another account and compare Season 8 with the new runes and nerfed/buff item rotations and compare it to previous seasons. Other players are generally right that Riot removed the carry potential this season from the averages. You need at least 1 good person on your team on average to pull off a carry now, whereas you used to be able to carry on singular performance.

I'm pulling 68-70% Kill participations on Morgana support and can still lose with scores like 8/4/30, because I'm often stuck defending lanes while the team is feeding. If someone would rotate out of the team fights and protect their friggin base, I could leave, and go carry the team fight instead, and perhaps less people would die. but in 80% of the games I play, no one does that. They fight 4v5's while 2 of our lanes are full of siege minions, and no one's killing waves on ANY lanes.

They also weakened how fast mages can split push turrets.

Serika ZeroMay 14, 20181 votes

I personally despite ranked games (one of the reasons I play so little ranked games).

Also, I've played in season 8, albeit only normal games (and pre season 8). I can say that Akali did lose 'carry' power do to how much safe picks started to be played around that time (a lot of janna, tham, lulu). I don't know the soloq/normals meta, but if there's less defensive supports, then assassins can still do well and carry.

What I played a lot in pre s8 and s8 was jungle, Evelynn in particular. Since her rework (when she was the most uter trash jungle of them all), I decided to play jungle once more and pick her up (because i liked her and she wasn't op at that time). I could still influence my games a lot. But she suffered the same problem as Akali, defensive supports like lulu, janna, etc prevent the assassination of enemy targets. So yeh, i know how the new runes work and all that.

You can solo carry in the lower leagues. Simply exploit the enemy's mistakes. This works very well for mages or assassins or adcs and ofc fighters. While as support, you generally need to figure out who is the best player in your team and support that person. (I don't know how to play tanks, so, i won't comment or argue on tanks or other tanky units).

Also, is very frustrating for assassins when we keep seeing adcs hugged by their supports. Since post 2 items we can't assassinate you people in 1v2 (pre 2 items we can)

PS: I uninstalled the game because it made me more aggressive and i decided to focus on other things irl than LoL, might as well grown up for once, i'm 26yo after all. So, I won't try to make a new account and repeat what i did in s7 just to prove a point that's not that hard to climb.

AzadetheMay 14, 20182 votes

Heh. I'm glad you made the comment about support. That's evidence that you're valid. "The right person to support isn't always the adc."

I should just play Eve on Electrocute, but I still think of her as a Phase Rush mainstay. I might after they move Ultimate Hat. Teams don't always let you get to a point where Phase Rush hits off (but they are buffing that too) Not running Electrocute is probably why I don't hypercarry her in low elos, as much as the bad lane ethics.

Atm I can hyper carry Gold more than Silver though, because they actually know what freezing a lane is. Silver will just argue with you that freezing a lane is impossible.

I can deal with pink wards. I can't deal with players who don't set up the right formulas for their jungle to perform.

Personally I hate Akali as a Nami player. She's one of the only champs Nami can't shut down. The .78 second Q delay = Akali smoke screens or R's out of the bubble. If you Ult, she can W forward and the wave misses her. Even if the Wave hits, by the time the Bubble hits, Akali STILL R's. And her self heal is more powerful than a Nami heal.... So friggin annoying on the lowest base HP champ in the game.....

Most Assassins I meet trying to gank adc+support usually don't come alone :S. It's usually some tank/jungler who comes with....

Serika ZeroMay 14, 20181 votes

about the nami thing vs akali. Honestly, there's not a lot you can do as nami because your spells have some activation time/delay. Meanwhile, me as Akali I can't do jack shit against Tham for example, or Janna, or Lulu, or even the likes of Alistar and even braum can cockblock me. But against stuff like Zyra, Nami, I got the upper hand if my W/shroud mechanics are good enough. Or, I'm feed enough to one shot with RQAA.

Usually most assassin in this game can can 1v2 adc+support at 1-2 items power spike, umm, usually game time should be 10-15 to 25 or 30 minutes. Afterwards they can't 1v2 anymore. But a lot of people think they are safe against assassins in this time frame and that's why a lot of players end up dying to them. No respect for power spikes lol.

Usually as an assassin, I would try to go on the adc or adc+sup alone. Mainly because my mobility means stuff like tanks/junglers can't keep up with me. But this depends on each player's preference

Gl and have fun playing :)

Oh, as for Eve. Back when I played her, I liked to go primary with electrocute and secondary with both movement speed runes in sorcery and not ultimate hat. And then mostly power farm till lv 6 or gank over extended lanes.

I was using her ult mostly as an escape tool and tried to make ganks happen without it, just using charm and invisibility as well as good positioning. While with ultimate hat, i had to use ult more often to get the CDR, without ultimate hat, I had the luxury to use the ultimate whenever I felt like it needs to be used rather than whenever i could use it.

AzadetheMay 14, 20181 votes

What's frustrating me more than Akali atm though is the Abomination they've turned MasterYi into. It used to be..... you could time skills to hit behind your character when Yi Alpha Striked, because that's where he'd land.... and he would be CC'd as soon as he landed.

Now..... if you try to take that first Alpha Strike to hit your CC, He's likely to kill you before you even have the chance, because as soon as he lands he gets in another auto attack, is full item 3124 charged, AND has Conquerer charged, So.... Guinsoo's insanely buffed auto attack damage will hit you up to 5 times, his Jungle item takes 20% of your HP, and then on top of that, most of it is True damage, and his Alpha Strike is immediately reset on top of that, meaning he's almost immediately right back in the air.

And since Point and Click Stuns were removed due to old Sion 's toxicity, there's really no actual counterplay left versus it. Every fight with him is now a Lottery gamble: Did your CC predictions hit or miss? Miss.... = you and 2 teammates are dead. Hit: Yi might die, unless he has item 3139 .... in which you're all gonna die.

Only way he loses is if somehow your competent jungler robs his jungle and puts him behind 2 items.

I get really sick of champs who innately HAD counters growing out of them.

That's why I no longer play Udyr . When they reworked Kindred, Ashe, etc...... suddenly champs Udyr used to eat whole...... now counter him. Good luck getting close to a Kindred without Flash on Udyr now, and if she's not dead in 2 skills, she'll still kill you. Ashe's Q now just makes mincemeat of Udyr before he can reach her.

Mages took over bot, so after several nerfs Sona isn't even worth playing.

Seems to happen over and over with no one at Riot realize they aren't just changing individual champion balances. They are changing how they interact with counters, which has created a serious player creep toward a very low number of champs, who consistently create snowballs and have less counterplay.

Serika ZeroMay 15, 20181 votes

pats if lol frustrates you, you can always take a break and do something else that you enjoy :)

AzadetheMay 15, 20181 votes

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pats if lol frustrates you, you can always take a break and do something else that you enjoy :)

Welp. My wife has ruined life.... and Path of Exile is too repetitive and only a few builds survive in Hardcore without extreme investments..... so..... I've got nothing except playing with my son :S.

Trump's destroyed TV. I can't even believe how many lives that drama is ruining. People are watching news so much that they aren't really living their lives. It's almost as addictive as a Video game....

Serika ZeroMay 15, 20181 votes

you should watch the trump show as comedy, as that's what it mostly is while he did some good things, its mostly just there making politics fun and interesting. If you approach it without to much seriousness.

and hey, you got a son. I assume he is young, fathers playing with their sons is a great thing as you guys teach us a lot of things. if you want, i can recommend you a few videos from peterson (he started to get kind of famous lately) where he talks about that. While I don't see eye to eye with the guy on a bunch of fronts, he still tries to give people advice to make life more bearable and meaningful and that's helpful for a lot of people barring nihilistic assholes like myself hahaha

AzadetheMay 15, 20181 votes

Trump would be comedy if it wasn't so damn serious and Nation changing. He may be stupid, but he's making people poorer, dumber, and ruining diplomatic power, trade power, potentially starting new wars. There's just too much on the line for it to be comedy :S.

My son is highly functioning Autistic. He's brilliant at learning nonverbal communications/functions, but he just.... doesn't pick up speech. At 3 years + he's maybe "Mimicking" some speech, and maybe "shy about getting it right" on occasion (whispering some mimics), but 99% of what he says is gibberish.

We're just hoping to get speech down by 5, so he can actually enter normal classes. If we can get past that hurdle, he'll be dangerous. I just got around to putting a 4 socket outlet in his higher wall in his room so I can actively have music/lights other than the main ones on at night, so maybe we can calm him a little and get him marginally better sleep, without worrying about cords.

He loves to swing/go down slides, and during summers he gets swimming lessons, gets to ride with Grandpa in his tractors. Pretty standard "Bub," but (although this may sound egotistical) he's generally more well behaved than many kids I've known, grins, smiles cooperates and co-communicates with me better than some kids his age do with words. His Temperament and smile is just addictive to everyone he meets..... even the little schoolgirls are trying to be his 3 year old girlfriends lol.

Just...... gotta get that speech under way, and then potty training (Speech issues delay that too).

My life's pretty meaningful. I wouldn't mind running my own business/getting in on the farming a bit on the side, but, I can't complain about much....other than the frustrations of living with a wife who has OCD (wouldn't trade her for the world...... but wouldn't wish the experience on anyone, because you believe you can motivate change/improvements of OCD habits...... as a spouse.... and then you discover that just does NOT happen. That's pretty hard to accept)

Serika ZeroMay 16, 20181 votes

wow, sounds like you life isn't as bad afterall you're doing good ^^ and nice to see you're proud of your son

sadly, i don't know much about autism except it somewhat being linked to high abstraction and analytical skills. But good luck with him picking up speaking.

As for trump, relax. He will destroy the world with or without you worrying about it. Also, one mistake tho, he isn't stupid. This is like saying in LoL: wow, that guy is playing Yi, so stupid. But then he gets to 3-4 items and then proceeds to shit on people. Trump is smart, Obama was smart, Hillary was smart, etc. You don't get in those high up positions without being smart. Your motivations on the other hand are open to interpretation.

Ps, trump sort of started a mini war (or better said rockets 'exchange') in the middle east recently haha. Since after the withdrawal from iran agreement, israel attacked iran, and then iran attacked back, so israel blew their missiles and attacked them again. Albeit i didn't follow if the exchanges are continuing since the new amabasy movement is kind of a distraction that blocks the news. And the funny part is that his move there was actually the good one if goal was "iran doesn't get nukes". But that made israel a bit to overconfident lol. oh ps2, he did made people richer by like 10% or so with the tax cuts.

AzadetheMay 16, 20181 votes

Trump Depends on under what terms you define Stupid. Is he intelligent? probably. Is he able to comprehend his shortcomings, and what penalties he imposes on himself in his narcissism? Probably not. He's intelligent enough to understand a means to an end. He's horribly impaired in the ability to understand the penalties to himself by airing it in public, and thinking multi-dimensionally.

I can also tell you this: He knows economics and doesn't care in the pursuit of self interest, or he doesn't know economics and only knew how to get away with an effort to acquire a certificate. He doesn't BEHAVE like he knows economics, and he doesn't talk like it.

(I'm not going to get into his limited vocabulary and explosive redundancy; I accept some people have betrayed the english language as they've aged (me too!). But his vocabulary and understanding of tariffs, trade, currency parity, etc..... he doesn't behave like he knows anything about them).

He didn't make workers much more wealthy btw. He's costing farmers in tariffs, and the tax cuts don't offset his other imposed costs on consumers.... like reductions to welfare budgets, no regulation on Pharmaceuticals, and depreciation of the dollar resulting in lower real wages. He's also disrupting US supply chains and resulted in less US leverage in pricing power of goods and global units move to open free trade while we close it.

I think Trump is intelligent in the two areas he has proficiency in: Branding, and Conning (not mutually exclusive).

Serika ZeroMay 16, 20181 votes

yeh, smart and selfish i agree with the narcissism part and he will often do what it benefits him, even if that requires him to look dumb to a large audience, as long as he gets it his way, he's doing it lol

that's why i'm not found of buisness men or women in politics, to selfish and to narcissistic

Soraka RulesMay 13, 20186 votes

Be careful, you could get down voted by delusional "elo hell is real" believers

in other news, one time I killed a plat player in a normal, I deserve gold+ [sg-kiko]

MarshbouyMay 13, 20185 votes

It's no longer going by the name "elo hell." It's now going by the name of "shitty matchmaking" because apparently riot is out to get everyone and make sure that they can't climb.

SwiftKitten88May 13, 20184 votes

its less of "i cant climb because i get shitting teammates" its more of. "shitty teammates make climbng takes about 10x longer and bleed all the fun out of playing ranked, and im not going to bother trying anymore because i can work my ass off for one win only to have morons throw the next 3 games." so im just going to go back to unranked where i don't have to worry about all that stress

MarshbouyMay 13, 20182 votes

You're totally allowed to have that opinion, in fact I almost agree with you. I struggled, and still struggle, to find fun in playing ranked because it's such a chore.

This post is specifically in response to "I play ranked but I can't climb" and even more specifically, one post where OP was asking for tips on how to climb more effectively but refused to realize that they were playing like absolute garbage.

HalcyonDwellerMay 14, 20183 votes

46/29 You struck a nerve, it seems.

Well said. Few things are as disappointing as people who fail to recognize their own shortcomings and who look for others to blame everything on.

Midlane KayraMay 13, 20182 votes

I was saying "If you cant climb, you suck" 'till this season, I dropped from D2 to D3 with my 8 lose streak, Had %74 KP, 7.4 Farm, 2.7 KDA, Most damage in team, 2nd most vision score on team, most damage on objectives in team. Yet i lost because of my inting botlanes.

But currently im trying to return D2 with my new winstreak. It is not impossible to climb with bad teammates, but is harder than any season.

Some of my loses in that streak;

11 / 8 / 2 1.63:1 KDA Level14 182 (6.9) CS KP 62% (We had a 3-13-2 Tryndamere)

16 / 7 / 7 3.29:1 KDA Level17 255 (7.5) CS KP 77% Dealt 30k damage, closest teammate is 19k

23 / 8 / 9 4.00:1 KDA Level17 196 (5.8) CS KP 84% Dealt 40k damage while our adc dealt 17k