A high DPS champion shouldn't be an issue, as long as they are killable.

Marshbouy·Jul 4, 2017·2 votes·275 views

Too bad lifesteal and support heal, shields, and peels are making them unkillable.

but it's not supports right guys haha.

9 Comments

AhristocatsJul 4, 20172 votes

there is a high dps champ in both team i don't see the issue

SujirenJul 4, 20171 votes

The problem is mentioned in previous threads that support tank items are cheaper and better than selfish tank items which makes no sense.

MarshbouyJul 4, 20171 votes

Okay? That doesn't make support itemization less powerful, if anything it proves that support itemization is too good.

Yes tank items need buffs, but supports will continue to build support items as long as they are this strong.

CannonLordFreedJul 4, 20171 votes

Supports will continue to build support items as long as they are this strong

Supports are building the items that were designed for them to use well and are doing their job? Oh my god we're all going to die. Oh wait, most of them deal almost no damage unless they picked Zyra or Brand or Karma. Everything has tradeoffs. Supports sacrifice damage for utility and peel, meaning they can't be alone, ever. Catch a support alone, they're probably dead unless they're baiting you really well. Catch an ADC alone and they can still win because they have damage and lifesteal, but usually lack any sort of utility and their mobility has long cooldowns. Tanks usually sacrifice damage for bulk and CC, mages give up durability for burst potential and peel. And they're all given items to supplement their playstyle and make them more effective at performing their role. Not just supports. It's not like Guardian Angel and Banshee's Veil have been completely obnoxious to deal with, or Edge of Night back before the lethality nerfs. Every class has power items. Supports just don't have as many, which makes certain items seem more problematic than they actually are.

JorenciceJul 4, 20171 votes

Hey. Fuck off with this nerfing support items.

For the first time ever I actually feel like I'm making a difference In team fights.

Been steadily climbing on my blitzcrank now that I can engage and protect the carry with shields instead of just engaging and going afk.

Big LincolnJul 4, 20173 votes

lul i don't know what you've been doing that you only now feel impactful in teamfights

JorenciceJul 4, 20171 votes

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lul i don't know what you've been doing that you only now feel impactful in teamfights

Let's say I'm on my blitz.

And a hmmm yasou jumps on my adc.

Before the MAX I could of done is get a max range pull away from my adc and then knock yasou up with my e then exhaust when he goes back in. And that's it. If yasou is fed enough to reach my adc again shes dead.

Now I can pull him, then knock him up, then exhaust him, then shield with face of mountain my adc whom I'm absorbing damage from with knights valor which keeps my adc alive long enough to use my E again THEN if that still isn't enough I can locket my my adc and since with 45% CDR blitz E is a 2.75 sec CD I might be able to do a 3rd E.

Now do you know what I mean about being impactful?

Yes before I was doing stuff...

But now I have so many tools at my disposal it actually feels like my really helping the team. My 2 shields don't even need to go onto the adc in a team fight and I'm tanky enough that I'm a big damage sponge who won't just die for being in the middle of a team fight.

MarshbouyJul 4, 20171 votes

Hey. Fuck off with this nerfing support items.

good argument.

For the first time ever I actually feel like I'm making a difference In team fights.

How? If supports don't make a difference in teamfights then why have they been pretty much mandatory bot lane for a really long time? P.S. I think you are just bad at the game if you don't think you are making an impact with shields, heals, buffs, peel, pick potential, etc.

Been steadily climbing on my blitzcrank now that I can engage and protect the carry with shields instead of just engaging and going afk.

ok?

Evil YasuoJul 4, 20171 votes

I wouldn't mind all these sup items and deaths dance/lifesteal items preventing me from bursting adc's or whatever i'm trying to kill, if they stopped destroying lethality items and pretending they're the problem.