Shouldn't TF get more range? I think he needs a bit more safety in lane

ExecutorDill·Nov 16, 2015·1 votes·503 views

TF is a mage, he isn't a marksman so generally his basic attacks don't do much (excluding his AA empowering abilities). Eventhough he has a stun, it isn't very long at earlier levels and because the card he picks is highlighted over his enemies take this advantage to go in on him, some of them having gapclosers with multiple leaps such as Riven, Yasuo, Ahri and Fizz along with some who have gap closers far bigger than TF's auto attack range like Zed, VI, Jax and Xin Zhao. 3midlaners out of the before mentioned champions have the power to completely juke/negate TF's stun completel. TF's relys on that stun more than just to lock down targets. It keeps him safe because his weird AA range puts him way over his head.

Giving him a range increase will also allow us to see a bit more ADC TFF without readjusting his dealings.

#I Suggest 575 units up from 525.

10 Comments

Azirious MistakeNov 16, 20155 votes

Twisted Fate is fine, he just takes a lot of skill to play efficiently.

Doctor JarvisNov 16, 20153 votes

He's an auto-attack mage, who uses his auto-attacks for the greater good. At 525 range. Where he belongs because, unlike the marksmen of the world, he can FREAKING STUN YOU WITH AN AUTO ATTACK

ExecutorDillNov 17, 20151 votes

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He's an auto-attack mage, who uses his auto-attacks for the greater good. At 525 range. Where he belongs because, unlike the marksmen of the world, he can FREAKING STUN YOU WITH AN AUTO ATTACK

Eh... Fair point sir +1. But he doesn't have enough ad scalings to be a full-fledged marksman (but atleast he can miss his skillshot Q) unlike vayne.

Skia AsteriNov 16, 20152 votes

http://champion.gg/champion/TwistedFate/Middle

I agree, make his auto range be 450 like Morgana Karthus Vladimir .

ExecutorDillNov 16, 20151 votes

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http://champion.gg/champion/TwistedFate/Middle

I agree, make his auto range be 450 like .

Are you mad? In lanning Morg has a long ass root and and vlad has invulnerability on demand. If an eneny walks out of TF's stun range he has to use it on minion instead because it is tied to his auto. This is where they go in on him... Morg and Lux's roots aren't broadcasted above there heads right before use like Fate's. But honesly Idc anymore since i've found away to increase it periodically. . .

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ShonjlNov 16, 20152 votes

If his auto range was increased, his damn waveclear needs to be decreased then. Its bad enough he has about if not higher than lux range on that thing.

PuynsiNov 17, 20151 votes

TF doesn't need buffs, only hands, he has limitless sustain, AoE CC and one hard CC on lane along with an empowered AA, passive attack speed increase, and extra gold also from a passive and a not-so-global TP.

ExecutorDillNov 17, 20151 votes

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TF doesn't need buffs, only hands, he has limitless sustain, AoE CC and one hard CC on lane along with an empowered AA, passive attack speed increase, and extra gold also from a passive and a not-so-global TP.

I know, he is wonderful and one of the most iconic champs iv'e seen in any mmo or rpg. I also know he is strong under the right circumstances. But honestly after the s6 no.... Since before the preseason changes i find those circumstances he needs to win very slim. Champs like yas, zed, fizz and lux harrass him in lane hard off his farm. I just think he needs a little love.

PuynsiNov 17, 20151 votes

I know what do you mean, this season is about stomping thats why it may look bad for him, TF does not really have the strongest of earlys, but once he starts gaining momentum hes unstoppable, a card proc with lich bane plus passive is a massive chunk of damage (like sona and her Q proc with power chord) plus his Q does a lot of damage. TF is the champion who goes with the logic of "outscaling my enemy" thats why he has the gold passive.

ExecutorDillNov 17, 20151 votes

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I know what do you mean, this season is about stomping thats why it may look bad for him, TF does not really have the strongest of earlys, but once he starts gaining momentum hes unstoppable, a card proc with lich bane plus passive is a massive chunk of damage (like sona and her Q proc with power chord) plus his Q does a lot of damage. TF is the champion who goes with the logic of "outscaling my enemy" thats why he has the gold passive.

Reasonable statement. +1