Patch 5.19 - Makes Jungle AI let Twitch Jungle again, changes sated to make him non-viable.

MealReadytoEat··1 votes·2,260 views

I have well over a thousand games of jungle twitch over the year - He was my first true love way back in late season 1, and I played him through reworks, buffs, nerfs, and a visual update. And then a couple patches later he suddenly became a somewhat popular ADC and was nerfed to the fucking ground in Patch 4.16 and it became a painful experience, and I began to play other things (Like spirit stone into mejai's amumu for my ranked games), although I still played him of and on out of love.

Then patch 5.1 FUCKING KILLED HIM. I think there was another patch or two specifically designed to prevent ranged champions from jungling, but this one was the worst. I couldn't do it. My heart rotted, and I became a bitter abuser of any broken mechanic I could find. (SNARE MAXED JUNGLE RYZE WOOOOOOOOO)

I could go on about my exploits, but really, this game became a hollow shell of what it was for me when I could jungle twitch, try as I might to fill that shell with the tears of my enemies.

When I saw that Jungle AI was changed on PBE, I immediately tried Jungle twitch, only to find that while I could finally clear a camp without dieing again, Sated now only worked every 4th auto on ranged champions.

LIKE WTF! DOES RIOT REALLY THINK RANGED CHAMPIONS ARE THE ISSUE WITH SATED!

Kayle's been the only ranged champion to truly abuse it, and I haven't seen her since they nerfed her. And please, jungle Vayne is cool and niche, but it's only viable with real specific comps if the enemy team is half way decent, and is mostly symptomatic of her being too strong right now overall in the first place.

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AdanChristo2 votes

im with you here man... 4 hits for ranged sated is such a dissapointment :/, jg vayne/kayle was never an issue, only for noobs that also think yi is broken.

I dont know why Riot consistently appeals to noobs complaints, if ur bronze and u cant handle these champs then you deserve to lose

MealReadytoEat2 votes

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im with you here man... 4 hits for ranged sated is such a dissapointment :/, jg vayne/kayle was never an issue, only for noobs that also think yi is broken.

I dont know why Riot consistently appeals to noobs complaints, if ur bronze and u cant handle these champs then you deserve to lose

To be fair, bruiser Yi is pretty abusive, and any Yi can be if you lack easy to land CC.

agbudar1 votes

jungle Vayne item 3930 nuff said how the fuk can't you see how totally fukin broken this is?

MealReadytoEat1 votes

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jungle Vayne item 3930 nuff said how the fuk can't you see how totally fukin broken this is?

How can you think that's not more broken than Yi or Xin Zhao?

Seriously, yes, she gets off her w 50% faster. No, that doesn't compensate for how shitty her jungling and presence is.

The only ranged champion that's really problematic with it is Kayle, and I haven't seen her since her nerfs.

agbudar1 votes

well try it before it gets nerfed currently its retarded if you can make jungle twitch work then surely you can make this one work.

MealReadytoEat1 votes

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well try it before it gets nerfed currently its retarded if you can make jungle twitch work then surely you can make this one work.

I have, and I can. It works real well if you have an ADC Morde and a tanky top, but meh, tanky tops and Morde ADC are kinda broken right now, and Vayne's kinda broken in general now too.

LadyRenly1 votes

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jungle Vayne item 3930 nuff said how the fuk can't you see how totally fukin broken this is?

Vayne with a machete is a walking sack of coins. Requires so much rampup to become efficient. Her ganks are non existent for the first good part of the match. It's like complaining about Nasus' late game. Yeah, it's scary. But a lot of good it's going to do you when you've been busy applying pressure.

Maybe it's broken if you're using devourer yourself and just afk race farming to 30 stacks

MealReadytoEat1 votes

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Vayne with a machete is a walking sack of coins. Requires so much rampup to become efficient. Her ganks are non existent for the first good part of the match. It's like complaining about Nasus' late game. Yeah, it's scary. But a lot of good it's going to do you when you've been busy applying pressure.

Maybe it's broken if you're using devourer yourself and just afk race farming to 30 stacks

Well said.

HoboGod1 votes

Oh, I complete agree with the OP. If we're talking about fun, jungle twitch was the best off-meta pick there could ever be. The stealth ganks were real. I feel I understand the reason for Riot changing the jungle AI, not taking damage from jungle camps cheats out many of the risks associated with jungling, but there was no compensation for ranged junglers. Perhaps Riot will add a ranged-only tier 2 jungle item to help reduce that painful jungle damage. That would do wonders as long as nidalee and elise can't buy it! Dirty half-breeds.

MealReadytoEat1 votes

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Oh, I complete agree with the OP. If we're talking about fun, jungle twitch was the best off-meta pick there could ever be. The stealth ganks were real. I feel I understand the reason for Riot changing the jungle AI, not taking damage from jungle camps cheats out many of the risks associated with jungling, but there was no compensation for ranged junglers. Perhaps Riot will add a ranged-only tier 2 jungle item to help reduce that painful jungle damage. That would do wonders as long as nidalee and elise can't buy it! Dirty half-breeds.

The new jungle AI on PBE is specifically not 100% kitable, but you can negate maybe half the DPS of certain mobs. Its pretty fair.

Support Evelynn1 votes

This won't kill jungle Twitch rofl.

If anything killed jungle Twitch it was the repeated butchering of his Expunge.

Also there's no way in hell you have over 1000 jungle twitch games this year when your only "games" with twitch in the last few months was an ARAM and a custom game.

MealReadytoEat1 votes

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This won't kill jungle Twitch rofl.

If anything killed jungle Twitch it was the repeated butchering of his Expunge.

Also there's no way in hell you have over 1000 jungle twitch games this year when your only "games" with twitch in the last few months was an ARAM and a custom game.

I've pretty much stopped playing jungle twitch in 5.1, like i said. And honestly, it was the nerf to his poision + 3 less AD that killed it in 4.16.

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