Can we please recognize how there is way too much armor shred in the game please?

Hibeki·Sep 15, 2016·5 votes·584 views

http://i.imgur.com/iGWHvtw.png

This DEDICATED TANK. No ball of health, has 300 armor, was bursted by an all AD team in under 5 seconds.

Armor shred is TOO MUCH. 45% bonus armor pen AND a damage boost on an item below 3000 gold is not okay when ANOTHER item that reduces your total armor by 30% is present.

A person with Black Cleaver, Lord Dominiks and the Mastery penetrate 45% bonus armor and 38% total armor.

This means in that fight (assuming black cleaver does NOT shred base armor, only the total armor.) My armor out of 289 was 138 against tristana. This number will be even smaller if I'm wrong about black cleaver not reducing base armor.

This is WITHOUT A champion who reduces armor on their abilities. A jarvan Q will bring my armor down to 90.

It brings me down 10 over my base armor. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Dedicated tanks, are weak.

10 Comments

BobaFlautistSep 15, 20167 votes

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an all AD team

Morgana did over a quarter of your hp with just her ulti

WeatheredSep 15, 20165 votes

You made the mistake of believing that death recap is accurate.

######It's never accurate.

Reaper SorakaSep 15, 20164 votes

I'm confused. Who had the black cleaver in this screenshot?

Ooh the Pantheon! I see now. In any case if they're all focusing on killing you, you should die pretty fast because they equipped themselves to deal with you. It kinda looks like you needed a team :(

HibekiSep 15, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Reaper Soraka,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0dElJ3wM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-09-15T02:27:43.363+0000)

I'm confused. Who had the black cleaver in this screenshot?

Ooh the Pantheon! I see now. In any case if they're all focusing on killing you, you should die pretty fast because they equipped themselves to deal with you. It kinda looks like you needed a team :(

Oh we won that game, because my Duo (who has over 800 games on twitch) isn't an idiot and killed the team because 5 man ulti (and he's getting nerfs).

Now you may think "Well there you go, you soaked all the teams damage and twitch whiped them". No. They killd me, assassinated twitch, then the rest of the team cleaned up.

A tank should not be dying quickly. Under any scenario. Someone building dedicated tank (most efficient build path with no offensive items) should not have their defensive stat be reduced (That they spent their entire build getting) to under a third because the enemy bought ONE item.

CalabokSep 15, 20163 votes

don't rely on that death recap. it does not show everything you need to see.

WoodakoodashoodaSep 15, 20162 votes

You were focused down and received approximately 900 damage per second, a third of which was magic damage.

It was late game and you've already died 9 times to the enemy prior to this one.

Both teams have amassed over 50 kills.

If you were focused down at 900 damage per second from start to finish at full health, it would have taken the enemy no less than 6 seconds to kill you.

So, if you build tank and only tank, are you supposed to be invulnerable to harm and immune to death?

HibekiSep 15, 20163 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chocolate Frost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0dElJ3wM,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-09-15T02:42:33.708+0000)

You were focused down and received approximately 900 damage per second, a third of which was magic damage.

It was late game and you've already died 9 times to the enemy prior to this one.

Both teams have amassed over 50 kills.

If you were focused down at 900 damage per second from start to finish at full health, it would have taken the enemy no less than 6 seconds to kill you.

So, if you build tank and only tank, are you supposed to be invulnerable to harm and immune to death?

No you misunderstand. This was BURST.

Notice that 2.5k health isnt shown? The recent death recap that was shown was BURST DAMAGE.

Under no circumstances should a tank be bursted and they still burst squishies. Under no circumstances should a tank be bursted.

WoodakoodashoodaSep 15, 20161 votes

So, tanks should be exempt from the rules that every other champion is subjected to in the game?

HibekiSep 15, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chocolate Frost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0dElJ3wM,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-09-15T02:52:33.138+0000)

So, tanks should be exempt from the rules that every other champion is subjected to in the game?

What rules? Tack an absurd amount of damage onto everything?