I understand riot wants to create higher skilled cap champs

Hot Belly Dancer··9 votes·1,204 views

but please, stop creating toxic cancer ass champions with overloaded kitsKled 1 Snare 2 gap closers 2 untargetables percentage hp dmg 1 better version of sions ult, with movement speed buffs. Kled the cancerous cavalier!

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GuiltyGecko7 votes

Kled isn't that bad. Also, any champion can sound cancerous by just naming their strengths.

Urgot -Free Enemy Damage Reduction -Undodgable Long Range Q that gives free mana -Shield that scales with mana and gives free slows -AoE %Armor shred -Overloaded ult with 3 CC ablities. Uncleansable suppression, AoE fear, and slow. -Free % damage reduction to self. -Forced Position Change Ability

Also, make sure to always use the word free. Makes it sound even more cancerous.

Ralanr1 votes

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Kled isn't that bad. Also, any champion can sound cancerous by just naming their strengths.

Urgot -Free Enemy Damage Reduction -Undodgable Long Range Q that gives free mana -Shield that scales with mana and gives free slows -AoE %Armor shred -Overloaded ult with 3 CC ablities. Uncleansable suppression, AoE fear, and slow. -Free % damage reduction to self. -Forced Position Change Ability

Also, make sure to always use the word free. Makes it sound even more cancerous.

Can confirm. Urgot sounding broken with all that free shit.

You should also use overloaded as he did here. Doubles the cancer.

Abyssphere1 votes

Why use Urgot as an example? He is League's prime example of an unhealthy champion.

GuiltyGecko1 votes

Meh, just picked a champion that's been historically bad. I could have picked another champion, but I figured regardless of what champion I picked to use as an example, there would be someone to come along and say "B-But that champion is actually cancerous cuz X, Y, and Z!"

Didn't want to argue about my champion choice, so went with something safe.

Abyssphere1 votes

The thing is just that this thread isn't even about champions being too strong, the OP didn't equate Kled having lots of things in his kit with Kled being overpowered. He just said he was "cancerous". What you're looking for is a champion with lots in their kit who isn't usually considered unhealthy - even if someone comes along to say they personally hate them, it's not the community's commonly held view.

Urgot is bad and has historically been bad... but that's because he's unhealthy. So your post if anything agreed with the OP - you listed someone with lots of mechanics that is considered very, very poor design.

A good example would be someone like Nami whose kit is super loaded but nobody ever complains about her even though she's usually both fairly strong and fairly popular. She has 4 ways to apply CC in her kit and can do targeted damage/heals/speed boosts from up to 1450 range away - how unfair is that?

GuiltyGecko1 votes

Eh, point taken. Not gonna edit the original post, but I see what you're saying :3

Ralanr3 votes

I wouldn't call Kled's ult a better version of Sion's ult.

What Kled's ult can do that Sion can't: -Increase the speed of his team (like righteous glory or Sivir)

  • Lock on to the closest enemy champion near the landing point. -Gives him a shield for his survivability.

What Sion's does that Kled doesn't:

  • Has some degree of control when traveling. -Can cancel his ult, so he doesn't just mournfully miss his target and still charge to the far destination on the map. -Can knock up a full team if it hits. -Can cast his W for a shield.

Kled's is more getting the whole team into the fight while Sion's is more about causing panic to the enemy team.

Sure they can be used for similar things, but one isn't better than the other all the time.

Timethief492 votes

also sion has the great combo of basicly free charged q if you time it with the ult stun.

Astôlfo2 votes

Or you could just try playing him. Or learn how to play against him.

And then realize it's not as simple as you make it out to be.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

as a galio main....

he is that simple =D

the issue is having 4 members of your team behind you and ready to go in with you and have a good focus order.

Restless Slumber2 votes

He's actually quite bad right now, sitting at a 43% winrate. He has almost no potential to 1v2 unless he is fed and he is fighting two very behind players. He also has low mobility off of his mount, which means that if you just target him with burst he will die very fast.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

they just dont want to release a basic champ with 4 flat abilities.

like Chogath

if they do that the fear will be that no1 would rush out and buy RP to get the new champ. and people would complain why does it cost 7800 ip

Hot Belly Dancer1 votes

thats fine, but at least dont make them toxic to play against!

Rito Staff1 votes

2 untargetables? :o

Cheekynorth1 votes

Actually it's only 1 untargetable

His passive. It's one ability so technically one untargetable

GULAG 4 U1 votes

what snare?

Colgate Gator1 votes

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what snare?

I think he's misreading his Q, it's just a minipull, not really a snare.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

That's waht I thought

deadlychuck1 votes

I'm not really sure they want to make the champions higher skill...

Malzahar

You can't say his skill floor was dropped at all. If anything it was raised to just under his skill ceiling. They are making champions who have more potential, but are easier to play to their full potential, not increasing skill cap.

redfeenix1 votes

Kled's my favourite champion in the game atm. I'm sorry you dont like him man but legit hes the most fun champ in teh game for me :P

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

to be fair kled cds are too damn low. hes too sticky. and hes kind of a juggernaut.

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