Games like these make me wonder why am I still playing this game...

option paralysis··34 votes·2,680 views

https://imgur.com/dsjGbYQ

I got 3 towers down mid lane with herald at 14 mins, got inhib at 19 mins... I had 16k gold, my next best teammate had 10.5k ok lol They were dying like monkeys every 30 seconds. Meanwhile you know how much dmg to objectives they had ? lux and tahm 0, rest 1k. you know how much I had ? 30 fucking thousand. But hey, I guess I lose 'cuz I can't literally 1v9. It's just sad.

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Troll for Trump18 votes
  1. You have a large number of kills and only 2 assists, but you were probably the only one capable of doing anything so...
  2. The team can't 4v5 against that enemy comp. If you were mowing down mid with rift herald I'm guessing the enemies were preoccupied with your other 4 teammates. Need a replay.
  3. 0 drags. Was bot that bad? Also near impossible for you to gank their bot lane unless they hardcore overextend.
  4. At Diamond level, an autofilled adc is basically a death sentence for your team. On that note...
  5. Silver Renekton vs Plat Teemo is just going to be bad times

A replay would be helpful

Disembark20 votes

Also it’s stupid to think that “hey, ALL 4 of my team lost, but because I did well we should win the game”.

How the fuck is that fair to them? You win in 3 lanes and you lose because enemy won in the jungle. Is that “balance” to these people.

Also how is this new? I can link a match FROM EVERY PATCH in league history where one person does well and the team loses them the game.

Also consider this is flex queue.... so literally there is no guarantee you’ll get even matchups or even close.

Marshbouy3 votes

How the fuck is that fair to them? You win in 3 lanes and you lose because enemy won in the jungle. Is that “balance” to these people.

this would be a major issue. All other roles would essentially become useless if this were true.

Troll for Trump1 votes

It's gotten a lot harder to carry as a soloQ is probably why.

Also the afk splitting strategy from eons ago has basically faded into obscurity.

The game feels less fun playing alone and in SoloQ now then before. Going premade or full 5s and playing in an organized fashion is what Riot keeps promoting, but that just makes soloQ feel even worse.

The greatest friction between teamplay vs soloQ was probably during DynaQ.

Ayzev16 votes

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They were dying like monkeys every 30 seconds.

You had the same death count as everyone except the 2 death Lux. I realize you're just venting your frustrations here, but that's a pretty bad choice of words.

option paralysis2 votes

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You had the same death count as everyone except the 2 death Lux. I realize you're just venting your frustrations here, but that's a pretty bad choice of words.

yeah, the difference is when I died I took 2 inhibs and 4-5 towers with me, while my team lost a 3v4. And teemo fked me with blind few times. But whatever, rito wants league to be a team game so it's just a coin flip if I get a better or a worse team, doesn't matter what I do, unless I feed like 0/15.

PopcornBunni3 votes

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yeah, the difference is when I died I took 2 inhibs and 4-5 towers with me, while my team lost a 3v4. And teemo fked me with blind few times. But whatever, rito wants league to be a team game so it's just a coin flip if I get a better or a worse team, doesn't matter what I do, unless I feed like 0/15.

Your deaths also fed way more gold to the enemy than any of your teammates.

This is why we need a "bounty gold claimed/lost" stat at the end of game screen.

Feel Apathy1 votes

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You had the same death count as everyone except the 2 death Lux. I realize you're just venting your frustrations here, but that's a pretty bad choice of words.

Unless you sit at the fountain after getting a lead like this, you're bound to die when an enemy team of 5 gangs up on you, while your "teammates" ask for reports in ALL CHAT and die while typing.

Late For Tea15 votes

What is this supposed to illustrate? You have the same number of deaths as the others (except for lux who only had 2), so its not like your teammates fed exceptionally hard in comparison. Meanwhile you have all the kills while your mid and bot have a few assists. This tells me that you picked up all your kills from ganks, instead of handing them over to your lanes.

As a result (taking into account that the enemy got a bunch of kills as well, considering the deaths), your lanes got behind and shoved in. Then they probably just lost the 4v5 teamfights while you were afk pushing a lane, instead of you being there to help them (as you have all the gold).

It feels to me like this loss is more on you than on your team. Or are you upset that you can't 1v9 the game and you want more solo-carry potential? This is a team game.

Edit: after reading some of your comments here you practically confirmed my suspicion, you have no clue about resource management and don't realize this is a team game.

Auroramancer1 votes

Really easy to just pin it on the guy who is complaining, just to rail against them for the sake of them complaining.

He had the highest kill participation. He used his lead to take an inhibitor 19 minutes (!!!), and spent a lot of time destroying enemy structures and farming up gold.

And his teammates??? What are they doing?

It's just fashionable to point the finger at the one who started fingerpointing, but it doesn't mean your points are valid.

Velzard of Koz2 votes

Really easy to just pin it on the guy who is complaining, just to rail against them for the sake of them complaining.

So complaining without substance gives you imunity when someone points out you are complaining without substance, because as someone who had the might, courage and wits to write 1000th vent post, you are not allowed to be called out, for you have comitted achievement of the greatest measures, a shitpost, and shitposts are art that is not to be called out.

It's just fashionable to point the finger at the one who started fingerpointing, but it doesn't mean your points are valid.

It's just fashionable to invalidate someone's valid points because they called out the first one to fingerpoint.

Late For Tea2 votes

Honestly this entire thread is just silly because he's ranting over nothing, without making a point. What is he complaining about? He is upset he can't 1v9, so is he complaining about a lack of solo-carry potential? This is a team game, you shouldn't be able to solo-carry.

So is he then complaining about his teammates and this game in particular? Complaining about a single match is pointless as literally every extreme can happen. I've seen an Illaoi 1v9'ing mindlessly pushing top for a victory, I myself have carried feeding teams, I've seen matches in which we were behind 10k gold at 20mins and still turned it around. Literally everything is possible, including the rare games in which you get 3 feeding teammates.

This guy is hyperboling to the extreme with his "They were dying like monkeys every 30 seconds.". If he's gonna act like that, I have no problems explaining to him that the loss was also on him. If this guy really believes he is such a great player, and can't handle feeding teammmates, he should move on to a singleplayer game.

Azadethe14 votes

..... And then there's games where your team carries YOU because they are either smurfing of have better picks for a composition. Or, they get put versus your current teammates, and stomp the crap out of them, turning your game into an easy coaster.

I think the problem with league satisfaction is merely: You feel losses very hard. You tend to brush off wins/good plays. Even though realistically you encounter a mix, the hard losses look like "could have been wins" and you begin to analyze everything that went wrong. The only analysis that generally occurs when you win is.... who carried who.

SanKakU6 votes

I think it's silly someone down-voted you. I think your comment is pretty interesting. As for me, I definitely feel wins and losses about the same. I will get irritated with many of my wins, since I play first and foremost for the sake of teamwork and if it's not there, I get frustrated.

Azadethe1 votes

Meh. I have an alt account that got trolled in 7 of 10 of her first season Placements with literally run down the mid trolls (I should have waited longer than 2 weeks into the new season to place. Even then, placements were very irregular and full of people in the wrong elos, and banned account remakes who polluted the waters).

Climbing her is..... interesting.

I got a Tier 1 Chat ban, and then aparrently did okay enough for about 3 months to get back into Honor eligibility. But omfg.... these teams. They play ranked like it's an ARAM. They chase fights right down mid and just stop farming at all, even when they are behind 12-15 kills, and some 40 cs. They literally behave like...... "This time it will work."

And if I am not Support.... you can forget about a warded game, which really sucks vs junglers like Kayn Jax Khazix Shaco who can just brutalize a jungler on an unwarded map with repeated invades. I don't care as much when I top, because I can handle not dying in lane. But when I get jungle, I really hate no wards anywhere important (I miss Trackers).

As Support I just carry the living crap out of the teams at about a 90% win rate. Morgana Nami are almost always wins because they are so instinctual.

But.... I Queue Fill..... because it's good to expect all roles. Jungle's about 60% by virtue of the fact I'm not playing my hyper carry junglers but rather the more fun well rounded ones like Sion Ornn

Mid I never get, but when I do, usually a win.

Top's usually won just by virtue of my style of top being a nonagression lord..... where I farm, delay and put the other top so far behind they can't compete with an unleashed team. That's usually a win, but not the "I just hyper carried you" scores.

Ofc, I'm not counting the games where from level 1, someone is sabotaging our team. I maybe win 25% of those, because in 75% you just can't get them to even change their mind about trolling you. 25% you carry hard enough that they decide to get back in the game and win.

If I count those...... all these % wins get dropped to an average 49% win. That's how often trolls take over games. I'm climbing out of it though (other than 2 Sion jung games, I've won 17 of my last 19 games)

So believe me. I don't like clownfests either. But it's so satisfying when an opposing jungler invades, and your team actually reacts, and it flips a game on it's head from where it would have been.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

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..... And then there's games where your team carries YOU because they are either smurfing of have better picks for a composition. Or, they get put versus your current teammates, and stomp the crap out of them, turning your game into an easy coaster.

I think the problem with league satisfaction is merely: You feel losses very hard. You tend to brush off wins/good plays. Even though realistically you encounter a mix, the hard losses look like "could have been wins" and you begin to analyze everything that went wrong. The only analysis that generally occurs when you win is.... who carried who.

Your explanation only fits regular losses. Not losses where a player nearly wins the game alone while their allies are unfit to be matched with them.

TitanAnteus12 votes

The more you win, the worse your teammates will be. Riot's matchmaking tries to force a 50% winrate.

YoungFarmer4 votes

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The more you win, the worse your teammates will be. Riot's matchmaking tries to force a 50% winrate.

I'm convinced if you go on a winstreak the system tries to use you to balance teams. I'v been put with some high plat players with 40-45% winrate who just brought the team down so hard.

YoNightmare78 votes

one does not simply blame his team

Dasdi966 votes

Looking at the gold values, it seems like you hoarded every resource from your team. You were 3 levels ahead of the 2nd highest level. Also 5.5k gold ahead of the 2nd highest gold. The enemy team just had to focus you and they won.

ViciousSummoner4 votes

That's called normal Udyr play.

BestPudgeNA2 votes

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Looking at the gold values, it seems like you hoarded every resource from your team. You were 3 levels ahead of the 2nd highest level. Also 5.5k gold ahead of the 2nd highest gold. The enemy team just had to focus you and they won.

thinking an Udyr with that build can actually teamfight LEL.

Xanderjutsu2 votes

He built super efficient actually. He built tanky so that he could support his team, but it appears his team was full of a bunch of apes.

option paralysis11 votes

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Looking at the gold values, it seems like you hoarded every resource from your team. You were 3 levels ahead of the 2nd highest level. Also 5.5k gold ahead of the 2nd highest gold. The enemy team just had to focus you and they won.

I just love when people say that. Did I take away something from my team ? I gave them 4 fucking towers worth of gold and ganked literally every lane. But they're so fucking bad, that it looks like I "stole" their gold.

Papa Andrei2 votes

Try and share kills, let them last hit and let them cs. Keep em alive so they can get rolling. If someones confirmed gonna die, let your adc have it.

Supreme Senpai691 votes

The highest number of assists was 5 from the support TK However, the Kai'Sa ADC got two kills. So that's 3 assists not accounted for. Likewise, Kai'Sa has 4 assists but TK has one kill, leaving 3 assists not accounted for. Worst case scenario, Udyr secured three bot lane kills. Top lane Renekton has 0 assists so Udyr did not secure any kills top. Any kills topside were earned solo. Lux had four assists so at worst that's 4 kill secures from Udyr.

More likely than not, he did a lot of those kills himself, with maybe Lux shielding him as he otherwise 1v1'd his lane opponent. Maybe if TK support took exhaust instead of ignite, they wouldn't have given 12 kills between them

2Charmnot2Charm3 votes

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Looking at the gold values, it seems like you hoarded every resource from your team. You were 3 levels ahead of the 2nd highest level. Also 5.5k gold ahead of the 2nd highest gold. The enemy team just had to focus you and they won.

Hard to not take take lane cs when your laners are always dead (or are stupid enough to play aram on summoners rift so all the side farm is being wasted if you don't grab it.)

Xanderjutsu1 votes

Lol, this guy

kaironen1 votes

That would only really be the case if everyone was as good as each other. However, this is solo que. Heck, you have a good chance to get a boosted monkey on your team and another player who is godlike. Even if it is true that some people take all the resources, only looking at that value means very little since you can't know for sure that he stole everyone's farm. Chances are, the team was just feeding and tilted while also not being great at farming.

Step Sis Lux2 votes

My last game was with 3 premade in my team i was 14/6 as syndra and jhin 18/2 but one of them decided to ragq quit after making 1/4 and unlucky after 41 min i lost game to silver ashe 1/8 and retarded veigar 7/9. This is unlucky game, sad how u cant win game 4vs5 because everyone are just oneshoting (rengar, gp, veigar) xD

TempName748142 votes

you should just dodge whenever there's a lux on your team. instantly 4v6, if not worse

TrevorAlu6 votes

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you should just dodge whenever there's a lux on your team. instantly 4v6, if not worse

bruh ur not even ranked

TempName748141 votes

and you're silver; what's your point?

TrevorAlu1 votes

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and you're silver; what's your point?

At least I have some experience, the fact that you think you should dodge every game with Lux, especially at unranked level, shows you have no clue what you are talking about

TempName748141 votes

you are... aware this isn't korea or china, right? people are allowed to have multiple accounts? and you are... aware that dodging has no effect on your MMR, right? dodging a sure loss is a net gain.

TrevorAlu1 votes

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you are... aware this isn't korea or china, right? people are allowed to have multiple accounts? and you are... aware that dodging has no effect on your MMR, right? dodging a sure loss is a net gain.

I can't argue with stupid. Please rethink your entire mentality and level of intelligence you think you have.

TempName748141 votes

you're silver. you are the "stupid" with which you claim an inability to argue

TrevorAlu1 votes

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you're silver. you are the "stupid" with which you claim an inability to argue

And what rank are you? I've been playing for a couple months so yeah, i'm not diamond. You literally think that you should dodge every game with a Lux in it. If you can't tell that that's fucking crazy, I have no basis to argue with you.

Supreme Senpai693 votes

The Lux did VASTLY better than anybody else on the team in terms of KDA though

BestPudgeNA2 votes

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https://imgur.com/dsjGbYQ

Better Jungler wins so you got that going for you.

Death by Glamour2 votes

I dont mean to be a conplete dick but why are you still here you are clearly not happy with the game? Take a break, go play sometging wlse for a few weaks and then come back. Little point staying on this if it just pisses you off

Iffy Jarl2 votes

If you want a game where all your teammates can be monkeys and u can still win just cause you want to I think you should stop playing MOBAs

Hexs Fortune2 votes

https://imgur.com/a/ecekz

Join the club. State of the game = Personal power matters too little on a team full of losers. RNG decides your teamates and your fate

Raoul1 votes

Why didnt you use your advantage to help your ADC? You do know that ADCs decide every game, or dont you know that? It doesnt matter what you do. The game is won or lost by which teams ADC is stonger in the end, thats why its your job as a jungler to make sure it is yours.

option paralysis1 votes

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Why didnt you use your advantage to help your ADC? You do know that ADCs decide every game, or dont you know that? It doesnt matter what you do. The game is won or lost by which teams ADC is stonger in the end, thats why its your job as a jungler to make sure it is yours.

bruh, I stopped playing solo q cuz bot lane decides the game, ofc I know that shit. btw, I think I ganked bot 2-3 times where we got double kills and I got a tower after. Idk what else should you fuckin' do.

Bigrig1077 votes

“We got double kills”? Yeah, that didn’t happen. YOU got double kills. Another resource management problem there.

Just let the Kai’Sa have them, and everyone is happier for it.

T4underbolt3 votes

Give it to ADC and minute later enemy comes back to lane and overhyped from double kill Kaisa dives 1v2 and dies giving away the gold bounty. I think you underestimate the power of boosted monkeys.

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

God forbid someone else is winning the game right? Oh wait riot already made sure noone can carry unless you are an ad carry or riot approved cancer like ryze, azir, vlad.

BestPudgeNA1 votes

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“We got double kills”? Yeah, that didn’t happen. YOU got double kills. Another resource management problem there.

Just let the Kai’Sa have them, and everyone is happier for it.

Reminded me of this

Might as well just take the next step

Supreme Senpai691 votes

Dragon afterwards, but I do feel that frustration as a fellow jungler who has taken down every lane's tower for them across several ganks and have all the dragons in the game including rift herald but we still lose

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