Jayce is number 1 this patch and they're buffing lethality items next patch with no Jayce nerfs yet

FalconPawwwwnch·Jan 17, 2017·101 votes·5,481 views

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Lol

107 Comments

dominusxJan 17, 201733 votes

Jayce isnt an assasin so it's fine if he is broken for acouple of patches.

dunder killJan 17, 20174 votes

But Leblanc Rengar are still disgusting

dominusxJan 17, 20176 votes

Leb yes. Rengar idgaf never lost to one yet. but reng should get his cc immunity reduced to 0.75 or removed. coming from a rengar main

GULAG 4 UJan 18, 20172 votes

Aren't you a kha/rengo main?

SoryInAdvanceJan 18, 20174 votes

Your point being?

GULAG 4 UJan 18, 20174 votes

Eh it's a question? Why are you being so aggressive?

SoryInAdvanceJan 18, 20174 votes

Geez..you take that as aggression? What do you do when people tell a "your mom" joke?

GULAG 4 UJan 18, 20173 votes

Not really, you just said 'your point being?' but i wasn't making any point.

Plastic Mem0riesJan 18, 20171 votes

And that's why he asked

LovelleJan 18, 20174 votes

An efficient response would be "why yes/no I am/not a Rengo main, why?" That would completely eliminate any confusion and he would learn the point of the question simultaneously.

Gregor GysiJan 18, 20173 votes

Uh, you asked a question and he asked a question and seeing how random your question was I can kind of understand his curiorisity.

48983507DEL1Jan 18, 20175 votes

Leblanc is busted beyond repair.

Rengar is good but for all the wrong reasons. His damage isn't the problem, it's the way his kit works.

Lord GalvatronJan 20, 20171 votes

"fine if he is broken for a couple of patches".

1 patch = roughly 2-3 weeks

.....hello?

TyrekGoldenspearJan 17, 201723 votes

Jayce "And then I drop an Acceleration Gate and blast 'em with a Hyper Charge! For the Future!"

Illâoi Evê SiônJan 17, 201713 votes

They want to give him his time to shine. He'll probably get gutted in 7.4.

dunder killJan 17, 20176 votes

Give him his time? Is over an entire season not long enough?

Illâoi Evê SiônJan 17, 201720 votes

It's a reference to the whole Sejuani fiasco.

SirTeemoMushroomJan 17, 20171 votes

whats with sejuani?

LostFr0stJan 17, 201713 votes

When Cinderhulk was a jungle enchant, Sej was one of the best users of it, so they nerfed her saying "she's had her time in the spotlight" in the patch notes. Then they nerfed the overtuned Cinderhulk but kept the Sej nerfs.

DengedenJan 17, 20171 votes

And this inaccurate circlejerk is still going strong, despite Sej needing every single one of those nerfs to stop being a top tier LCS pick.

LostFr0stJan 17, 201713 votes

She wasn't top tier LCS, she was meta-favoured and so LCS playable in that same patch only. I just told it how it was. May I ask what was inaccurate?

DengedenJan 17, 20171 votes

She was basically a must-pick lol. Look up any game during the Cinderhulk patches.

LostFr0stJan 17, 20175 votes

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during the Cinderhulk patches.

once that was gone she would have left the LCS without her nerfs.

DengedenJan 17, 20171 votes

So she should have continued to demolish LCS before they put Cinderhulk down? Lol. And as it turns out, she even needed nerfs after Cinderhulk got toned down.

LostFr0stJan 17, 20177 votes

I'm saying they should have looked at cinderhulk first obv. It was clearly overtuned. Nerf Sej afterwards if she still needs nerfs, that's the logical thing to do. No one would have argued about the nerfs then. "to be Sej'd" is "to be nerfed due to an item's power, then have said item nerfed as well." Whether or not she needed nerfs isn't the issue.
Riot has since learned from that it seems, from what they're doing to Vi/Hec right now. Nerfing Colossus and changing Ghost first.

ChlululuJan 17, 20173 votes

well she seems to be in a fine spot is she not? shes a disruptor tank with good engage and durability isn't that like good idk she seems mainline in performance, just boring

DengedenJan 17, 20172 votes

And I'm sure they would have, if people didn't looooove Cinderhulk. As such, Riot nerfed Sej 1 patch before they nerfed Cinderhulk. In the end, they might as well have nerfed them in reverse order. Wouldn't have changed anything.

That's how you're spinning the "Sej'd"? Firstly, it's extremely misleading, like there was some sort of injustice done. Secondly, there's nothing wrong with nerfing a champion because of an item they build. Riot didn't learn from it, it seems, when they nerfed Irelia's ult CD after the Trinity changes.

No one would have argued about the nerfs then.

Ha. Ha. HA. Ha. You haven't been here long, have you?

LostFr0stJan 17, 20173 votes

Cinderhulk was broken AF. It started with the gromp poison, then the cinderhulk compounded it and it snowballed from there.

There was injustice done in the way they said it in the patch notes. Instead of telling it how it was Sej needs nerfs, they spun it as if they were nerfing her simply because she became popular. It was stupid of them and is the source of this whole thing.

They though it was witty, but when a champ goes from underplayed to pick-ban and is then nerfed it sends the wrong message to that champ's playerbase.

At least they explained the Irelia nerfs, and the current Darius nerfs.

MelledoneusJan 18, 20172 votes

ffs Gragas was dominating longer than her much harder then.

FoxstepJan 17, 20172 votes

58% win and 80% ban rate. she needed massive nerfs.

Gregor GysiJan 18, 20172 votes

With that being said she was still alright. Riot even commented on that and they said that they were interested in how Sejuani would perform after the Cinderhulk nerfs but she was (and still is) doing alright so they just left it at that.

BastionKrossJan 18, 20173 votes

That's not entirely accurate. Sej was legitimately too strong with the pre-nerf Cinderhulk so she was brought in line accordingly.

The trouble began when Cinderhulk was later nerfed and a Rioter commented that Sej will not be buffed back up to account for this because "She's had her time in the spotlight".

That (rightfully) did not go over well.

LostFr0stJan 18, 20172 votes

Mhm^^ I added that in another post, but you're right.

dunder killJan 17, 20172 votes

That's not even using the reference correctly. The reference is that they wouldn't buff her because she had her time. It doesn't make any sense in this situation because he hasn't even been nerfed yet

Illâoi Evê SiônJan 17, 20174 votes

The focus was supposed to be on the "He'll probably get gutted in 7.4", too. The first sentence just threw the whole thing off balance. Essentially: We'll have to endure buffed Jayce till 7.4. Things will get out of hand. He'll get gutted, probably alongside some AD items. Then the first sentence will have been correct ;)

(Yeah, that make sense, right? Man, I need sleep ...)

The DeckownerJan 17, 20178 votes

Not only lethality buff, but also cotc nerf.

Jayce is able to go even against tanks with broken cotc, now jayce gets buff and tanks get nerf, what else is there to counter jayce top?

Illâoi Evê SiônJan 17, 201710 votes

Next new thing: Ziggs Top

ChlululuJan 17, 20172 votes

I LAUGHED +1

Oakleaf RangerJan 18, 20173 votes

Duo top? Prayer? The fetal position? God I hope someone finds some answer to him.

KhaoticolJan 18, 20173 votes

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Not only lethality buff, but also cotc nerf.

Jayce is able to go even against tanks with broken cotc, now jayce gets buff and tanks get nerf, what else is there to counter jayce top?

The ban hammer is the only thing that stops him now

five oh tree Jan 18, 20172 votes

the one true god, Kled

dunder killJan 17, 20174 votes

Don't worry, some silver kids will be along shortly to insist that he's fair and balanced

warpenguin555Jan 17, 201715 votes

Yet to met a silver player that likes jayce

MelledoneusJan 18, 20172 votes

When all elos agree that a champion is broken, you know a champion is broken.

MFTORANK1Jan 18, 20173 votes

Jayce has a very clear weakness just like Poppy, I have a 100% win rate agaisnt Jayce and Poppy here's my secret ; When you see that he's being picked on the ennemy team just press the power button on your computer, everything will shutdown and Jayce won't be a problem. By the time your computer has rebooted you can Queue up again.

DengedenJan 17, 20171 votes

Things like high damage dealt are to be expected from a ranged top.

Including masteries he has 15 lethality in his build. Gamebreaking.

Also, he only sees success against other bullies. So I'm curious, which one of them do you play?

Asayake 5150glowJan 17, 20178 votes

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Things like high damage dealt are to be expected from a ranged top.

Including masteries he has 15 lethality in his build. Gamebreaking.

Also, he only sees success against other bullies. So I'm curious, why one of them do you play?

Jayce has equivalent all in damage as Riven and Fiora, his all in damage is much faster, he gets free poke (ranged), and a great dissengage. Why would you pick Riven over him? Riven can keep her target CC'd, but Jayce doesn't need to - they're just dead once he jumps on them.

DengedenJan 17, 20172 votes

Because you're exaggerating when you say that.

Asayake 5150glowJan 17, 20176 votes

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Because you're exaggerating when you say that.

I'm really not though. I'm a Riven and Fiora player, and have seen Jayce half health me with, melee form only, Q+auto+auto+E. Have also been oneshot by Q+E+R+Q+auto+E.

DengedenJan 17, 20173 votes

Oh wow. A fighter's full combo did half your health? Riven and Fiora among the most hated top laners are losing trades after getting hit by a skillshot? What's next? Wet water?