Just lost a ranked game where the enemy team was full AP but they still won because we couldnt build enough resistances to counter them. Annie, Kayle,Vlad and nidalee just completely out damaged our team and the only item any of us tanks could build against them viably was Spirit Visage anything else would be sub par because it's the only item that give health as well as resistances.
Malicious Metal3 votes
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Commit Sudoku2 votes[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0NjNQAnc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-10-17T12:52:36.384+0000)
how is 6 vs 3 a good ratio dude and locket is really only viable on 1 person in a game usually support
Ralanr1 votesYou can replace locket with banner if needed. But Visage and Banshee are usually enough.
Commit Sudoku2 votesYou can replace locket with banner if needed. But Visage and Banshee are usually enough.
the problem isnt that visage and banshee arent enough the problem is lack of options for MR for instance you could have a weaker MR item but perhaps it had a passive that if you took more than certain % of her your hp with no enemy champions in a certain distance around you would regen half the damage taken for defense against poke champions it creates a new viable option for tanks to opt into defense against AP poke simmilar how Randuins is defense against Crit
Ralanr1 votesWouldn't that make poke comps pointless? Randiun doesn't completely gut crit.
Commit Sudoku2 votesWouldn't that make poke comps pointless? Randiun doesn't completely gut crit.
im not saying that item should exist im saying an item like it should exist for options against poke you get what i mean?
Ralanr1 votesWarmogs.
Commit Sudoku1 votesWarmogs.
doesnt reduce the damage you take from magic damage poke if warmogs gave MR then yah sure it would be an ok item against poke warmogs is ok but i would have to buy 2 items to make it really good instead of 1 item that is good on its own
Zerenza1 votesYeah i mean when i usually get warmogs its because i already have 2 resistance items or more so i want more health regen and to be able to get back into fights quicker without backing. Great item but not an MR item.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votescrit is also resourcless and on low cd (lol) so randuins doesn't do much outside of lane against tryndmaere or yasuo late game its meaningless.
Zerenza1 votesI have discovered that isn't enough, a full AP team will simply out damage the front line right now. I can't quite put my finger on it but giving an extra MR item that's viable on tanks would certainly fix it, i mean ADC's aren't uselss by any means but there are 6 viable armor items. It just prevents full AD teams from being able to work and i feel one more MR item for tanks would help do the same thing.
Ralanr2 votesYeah. I mean seriously there's more than just Visage for health and MR, Visage just gives the most health.
If your tank only built Visage against a heavy AP team, then they deserve to be destroyed for not respecting the damage and building more MR.
Malicious Metal1 votesHell, I don't even build Visage on Nautilus top.
I feel there's enough of MR options in the game, especially seeing that pure HP's usually very efficient against magic damage as well due to the burst nature rather than the sustained threat of AD damage
Sahn Uzal2 votesDid OP just call Banshees weak? What the fuck
Zerenza1 votesBanshes: 96% gold efficient Locket: 90% Visage: 120%
Banshee's isn't weak, it's just not good enough to build visage and banshee and those are really the only two MR items that are viable on tanks, most tanks don't like to take Banshee's for a reason, go look at some guides and you'll see banshee's is only a situational for a reason. We just need another MR item that can stop AP champs from just shredding most tanks, there are 6 Armor items and all of them are viable but they certainly don't make ADC's useless so why can't we have just one more MR item so mages aren't as oppressive. It wouldn't make them useless just would make it so building a full AP team is something you can't get away with anymore and you clear can right now.
Sahn Uzal1 votesgo look at some guides and you'll see banshee's is only a situational for a reason.
And you were in a situation where you wanted more MR.
Zerenza1 votesdoesn't work still gets shredded We need another MR item or it's impossible to reliably punish a team that's full AP. You can build enough armor against a full AD team and usually stop them, it doesn't make AD champs useless by any means but there are 6 Armor items that tanks can build. Why can't there be one more MR item to prevent the same thing from happening with a full AP team?
Melledoneus1 votesTry stacking HP. It helps a lot.
Zerenza1 votesthere are 6 items in the game that can be built on tanks that are absolutely always viable for AD. But for AP you have Banshee's and Visage, locket is a support item and barely gives any resistances 20? I mean seriously. Banshee's on the other hand is relatively good if it weren't for the crucial fact that apparently that's not enough resistance to stop a full AP team from shredding your front line.
Like i know they exist but only visage is good in every situation, the other two are situational and less efficient gold wise by a huge margin.
Banshee's: 96% Gold efficient Locket: 90% Visage: 120%
See this issue? Why would i buy the other two over visage, especially locket. It just doesn't make any sense.
Zero Skill Tank1 votesBanshee block 100% damage from opening ability. In a fight, it's worth way more than HP5 from SV.
You are also completely ignoring the fact, that biggest damage threat in enemy team by far was Sivir, who did 200% of Vlad's DPS output and 150% of Kayle's.
Your frontline consisted of Dr. Mundo, who bought a single armor item in 44th minute, and you who bought zilch of armor. You got shredded, but it was mostly Sivir who did this.
There are few MR tank items, because you don't need much of them.
Melledoneus1 votes
if you want to get creative.
Commit Sudoku2 votesagreed
vs. sometimes for tanks
MLDzXnRRR1 votes
Zerenza1 votesLocket barely gives any resistances and it's a support item. It's only 90% gold efficient as well, banshee's is only 96% so why should i buy them when i can buy something like visage that's 120% gold efficient. It's a huge waist of gold to build banshee's and locket, as i said the only viable tank item for MR is Visage and if you look at guides for many tanks, guess what's a situational item its Banshee's Veil and it's for a reason.
Wolfess1 votes