Sion nerfs didn't do anything

Atlªs··2 votes·1,208 views

I had already tried to fight him 2 times before but I had to back because his CDs were up more often than my shield combos and thus he'd just push me out of lane. This fight I exclusively used shield combo and had to use my seraph's embrace active to shield myself from his ult + ignite. There is probably no other toplaner (besides Renekton) that I struggle this hard with and I don't understand why he does as much damage as he does.

My build at the time was fully stacked Seraphs, Catalyst, Mercury treads and cloth armor. Sion's build was Spirit visage, Mercury treads, Ruby crystal and longsword with corruption potion. I was 20CS ahead of him but he had 1 kill on me. (He killed me 3 times prior to this)

According to his Lolalytics after patch 8.21 his play rate went down 1% and and his win rate has not faltered. Obviously one day worth of data is extremely poor but I have nothing else to work with.

Additionally, remember that video of Hashinshin complaining about Ryze shields?

For the uninitiated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2ZGNoB84YU

Want to know why Hashinshin lost? Because he's complete garbage at the champion and at understanding how Ryze works. He built Ninja Tabis, why? He built Adaptive Helm, why? I can see how it can be good versus Ryze but Adaptive helm is more useful versus DoT abilities like Teemo auto's or Brand. All in all, Hashinshin doesn't know what he's talking about and Sion is still too strong.

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Tr4shB4NSYST3M6 votes

"nerfs didnt do anything"

LOL you got his by like 8 of sion's grasp procs, his ult, multiple q's 1 well charged, and the W explosion a couple times, yet you still won the fight.

LMFAO quit bitching.

Atlªs1 votes

His Q's are on about a 5s CD and I'm slowed enough for him to walk up and auto me. There were a few times where I went into melee range to try to stick to him in case he decided to ult away. I honestly didn't expect it to be that close.

8 of sion's grasp procs, his ult, multiple q's 1 well charged, and the W explosion a couple times, yet you still won the fight.

A couple Qs, a couple W, R and ignite is enough to kill me while being a tank? On the other hand I had a full damage build and had to combo like 40 times (not really). But yeah, I am bitching about a busted champion.

Ralanr4 votes

A full damage build with no pen against a tank with good MR.

Yes that is supposed to be difficult.

Atlªs1 votes

I do not have this sort of difficulty versus other tanks.

Ralanr3 votes

Probably because Sion is able to stack more health due to his passive this gets a better benefit from resistances on items.

You know, like he’s supposed to with that passive.

BlinkZZ1824 votes

In both videos Sion lost to Ryze. Sion is even the strongest tank of all right now. This already demonstrates the bad shape tanks are in now and how urgent tanks need to be buffed to so that battlemages like Viktor Ryze Vladimir Swain do not dominate top lane.

SwiftKitten884 votes

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In both videos Sion lost to Ryze. Sion is even the strongest tank of all right now. This already demonstrates the bad shape tanks are in now and how urgent tanks need to be buffed to so that battlemages like Viktor Ryze Vladimir Swain do not dominate top lane.

yeah i find it strange that says "sion nerfs didnt do anything" then he proceeds to beat sion... and also.. youtr playing a mage vs a tanky.. your SUPPOSED to lase that match up. mages are designed to lose vs tanks. granted Ryze is a dps mages which has a much better chance and him and Cassiopeia are kind of the exception to the rule..

but scion in an HP tank... building MR. honestly im surprised u even won... the fact u did prove you outplayed him.. your SUPPOSED to lose that matchup

Atlªs1 votes

This was the only point in the game where I was able to fight Sion.

Ralanr3 votes

Sion has a strong early and Ryze has a weak early. This is intended.

Atlªs1 votes

Look, I get that you play Sion a lot and you like the champion but lets not get ahead of ourselves here. I already completed Seraph's and I had catalyst. This was about 20 min midgame so we are well past the "weak/strong early" bullshit excuse. Sion does too much damage for building an MR item and long sword + ruby

Ralanr3 votes

Sion has always done a lot of damage, and frankly, Ryze isn’t that durable either (he’s not squishy though). But you’re right, it’s mid game, which is still a fight you won despite not having the right items to really shred through Sion.

Sion does so much damage because of how avoidable his abilities are. Are you saying that Sion shouldn’t be able to hurt you with those delayed abilities? Or are you saying you shouldn’t need a magic pen item to deal with a tank building magic resist.

Atlªs1 votes

I BARELY won that fight, are you kidding me? He killed me 3 times prior with just Spirit Visage before I completed my Archangel staff.

Rexxiee2 votes

hash is right about ryze being stupid atm.

I mean, mages in general are overpowered rght now, as he said.

Atlªs1 votes

Explain how Ryze is stupid.

vgamedude2 votes

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hash is right about ryze being stupid atm.

I mean, mages in general are overpowered rght now, as he said.

I admire your dedication to baiting although i don't agree with it.

Full Brain2 votes

Sion is supposed to beat characters that don't have a significant range advantage or can't out shield/heal/damage mitigate him in close range unless they are like a full build Kai'sa or Lucian or some equivalent tank shredder at mid to close range which mid game Ryze is not.

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