Why can't we just nerf AD items to parity? The game has too much damage as is, and adding more isn't really what we needed. I agree AP itemization was a bit rote, but that could easily be fixed without adding more damage.
Hayaishi3 votesAP items were kinda bad though
Onotori1 votesYeah, but that doesn't mean we need to add more damage into a game that's already a contest of oneshots. Just rework a couple items, nerf AD items to parity, and then things are better for everyone.
Rins Thigh Socks1 votesAP items were kinda bad though
ayy what's up man?
Malix Farwin3 votesAP items are still bad, everything lost AP except deathcap. The one real advantage AP champions had was an early game spike with 
buy that was cheap got it's price jacked up and AP lowered.
Grimspeake2 votesAp was def weak this is bringing mages back
Onotori2 votesAP was only weak because AD is too strong.
Zed genius2 votesap was never weak, when was the last time u saw high elo players or in competitive pick an ad mid besides some lucian here and there?
Diamond3Kappa1 voteswhat about every other role tho hehe
KANDYFLIPPER9113 votesAp was def weak this is bringing mages back
Wrong. All mages have been seriously nerfe
Ahri Baka2 votes
, the ones who abuses are 
supports , and mages only got a chance for more Magic Pen , that's all , but in the end , AP was nerfed on many AP items ,
Lost AP , 
lost AP , 
got some ap but still not gonna buy it , for no reason they made it 1100 and nerfed the ap , even 
AP got nerfed even before the release , This one 
might have got buffed but , the Original Ap ap items got nerfed so ?Zed genius1 votesInstead they are doing both, they are nerfing lethality again in a couple of patches (more specifically duskblade) :))
lolibus1 voteswell it feels broken, just had 2 games where a brand support had second most dmg in there entire game
at this point I feel like playing ranked is a waste of time and elo unless you play broken stuff yourself but I just don't like playing mage support for the most part or switching up my champion pool because they dont know how to balance anything in this game and a patch broke everything
this basically tells me "dont play our game"
PeachyPosterior1 voteswell it feels broken, just had 2 games where a brand support had second most dmg in there entire game
at this point I feel like playing ranked is a waste of time and elo unless you play broken stuff yourself but I just don't like playing mage support for the most part or switching up my champion pool because they dont know how to balance anything in this game and a patch broke everything
this basically tells me "dont play our game"
I feel like this has more to do with Brand as a champion than AP items.
The AP items are great for the champs that are balanced but feeling rather under-powered. Now we just need to take away a bit from the ones that are over-powered to balance them out as well.
lolibus1 votesI feel like this has more to do with Brand as a champion than AP items.
The AP items are great for the champs that are balanced but feeling rather under-powered. Now we just need to take away a bit from the ones that are over-powered to balance them out as well.
I don't get this logic, he wasn't good and is only because of the item now. Why would you want to nerf him when the item is the problem. Everybody said beforehand that the mask is broken.
PeachyPosterior1 votesI don't get this logic, he wasn't good and is only because of the item now. Why would you want to nerf him when the item is the problem. Everybody said beforehand that the mask is broken.
People were complaining about brand way before these new AP items came into play. And again, the new AP items have made some under powered champs feel really balanced and good to play lately.
So if brand, or any other champ is an issue, it's his own abilities and power that need to be looked at. Not global items that really made a positive difference for most mage champs.
PeachyPosterior1 votesAP Items were bad. Every mage had nearly the exact same build path. It's not about having more damage, it's about more options.
I don't know where AP items are VS AD items, but I appreciate the new AP items and do hope to see a few more come into the game as well.
They also upped the cost of some AP items. IDK how AD items are doing, but by upping the cost it should make the games slightly less snowball-y and help bring it back to the 30mins + everyone wants.