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Remove lifesteal as a purchasable stat from this game

Neriticc··3 votes·1,396 views

Only allow lifesteal and healing if the champions kit has it included. Remove lifesteal items otherwise. It is really funny that Draven can build first item BT and start to outscale Vlad and Aatrox healing combined. Draven basically becomes a tank that cannot be killed unless he gets bursted instantly.

You removed Spell Vamp so you fucked over Akali and Vlad since season 4. You also fucked over mages and AP champions that want healing unless they build Gunblade. Time to fuck over all ADC champions that think they have the right to sit there right clicking while having more healing than Vlad and Aatrox combined.

Oops, I can sit there at 700 range right clicking and I made a mistake. Nevermind because I have mobility, then I can just auto attack a few times to heal back my entire HP bar. You cannot kill me unless you have 3 assassins that can instant burst me or else I will 1v3 with 0 counterplay.

Completely remove lifesteal as a purchasable stat, and only allow it in champions kits. If a champion wants lifesteal, they need to invest into Legend: Bloodline rune.

10 Comments

Mr Elessar2 votes

Which adc has 700 range except a Jinx with maxed q or Twitch with Ult?

Neriticc2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mr Elessar,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0AnkzilE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-29T09:07:47.932+0000)

Which adc has 700 range except a Jinx with maxed q or Twitch with Ult?

Tristana and Caitlyn come close. Not exactly 700 range but it makes no difference.

Mr Elessar3 votes

As an adc main I must say that 50 range does make a difference.

Timethief491 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mr Elessar,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0AnkzilE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-29T09:42:24.698+0000)

As an adc main I must say that 50 range does make a difference.

So size range does matter!

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mr Elessar,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0AnkzilE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-29T09:07:47.932+0000)

Which adc has 700 range except a Jinx with maxed q or Twitch with Ult?

Tbh Range difference doesn't mean anything when Laning against him. Since his W grants him almost a close gap, and you can use it every time you catch an axe.

He can even poke you under the tower, throws an Axe, presses W get's away before being agro'd by the tower and repeats this process. He either needs to loose 25 range or he needs to have his W movement speed less impactful early.

He's not supposed to be able to poke you down from distance like this, he's supposed to a lane bully who can crush enemies in the early game who get too close.

If he's going to auto win every trade with his Q there needs to be a penalty elsewhere, because having great early, mid and late game, being able to poke enemy with axes under tower in the laning phase and being able to close gaps with W every time you catch an axe shouldn't be a thing.

At the very least make his W cooldown refund when he catches 2 axes not 1 if any of the nerf suggestions above seem too much.

Frontline Fury1 votes

A draven with only BT is a problem for any non-adc since when? That 20% lifesteal does little when he has 150 AD and like 0.8 attack speed. Any top laner can still crush him like a bug.

Neriticc1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Frontline Fury,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0AnkzilE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-29T09:06:40.311+0000)

A draven with only BT is a problem for any non-adc since when? That 20% lifesteal does little when he has 150 AD and like 0.8 attack speed. Any top laner can still crush him like a bug.

But Draven has his Q that gives bonus damage so extra lifesteal on top. I suppose that champions can still kill him, but if you make one mistake then you are fucked. That is the problem.

Frontline Fury1 votes

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But Draven has his Q that gives bonus damage so extra lifesteal on top. I suppose that champions can still kill him, but if you make one mistake then you are fucked. That is the problem.

And what other ADC does not kill you if you make one mistake against them?

Tell me, which one of these adcs can you afford to make mistakes against?

KogMaw item 3124 Xayah item 3508 Lucian item 3508 Ashe item 3153 / item 3508 Vayne item 3153 Ezreal item 3004 Graves item 1412 Jhin item 3031 Jinx item 3072 Kaisa item 3004 Kindred item 1412 Twitch item 3031 / item 1419 Quinn item 3142 Kalista item 3153 MissFortune item 3147 / item 3072 / item 3508 Tristana item 3031 / item 3153 Varus item 3153 / item 3142 / item 3508 Yasuo item 3087

Last i checked not a single one of these champions forgive you if you make a single mistake during a duel. That's just what League of Legends looks like right now, not any one champion in particular.

At least Draven actively helps you line up skillshots by always showing you where he's going to move, and he loses all his damage if you have a single root or knockback. Most of the other marksmen aren't that inconsistent.

Posui Gart1 votes

you fucked over Akali and Vlad since season 4

Well, I would like for my main to be as "fucked" as Vlad.

Nevermind because I have mobility, then I can just auto attack a few times to heal back my entire HP bar

This just means his mistake was unpunished. Good luck walking in AA range to attack something while having less than full hp with enemies having a mage/assassin there.

You cannot kill me unless you have 3 assassins that can instant burst me or else I will 1v3 with 0 counterplay.

1 is enough, unless that adc is 1-2 items ahead or has orianna mid+lulu sup+ivern jungle+shen top protection. Also, there are 5 items, a summoner spell and some champion abilities that cut healing

xDogMeatx1 votes

ill agree becomes a tank after bloodthirster/deaths dance. beyond that no. lifesteal is needed if theres a cap to it though. then again item 3123 is a great item for this.

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