I know asking for more bans is too much but like...

Succubús GF··21 votes·5,608 views

There are so many champions that literally need to get perma banned... Mid lane alone has the unholy cancers of Fizz Yasuo Zoe At the LEAST. It bothers me that Riot is too busy creating new champions rather than fixing the problems that are already existing,...

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Handy Sandy 11 votes

Zoe is still considered cancer? With the release of stopwatch Fizz just kinda went back to where he came from... this is a case of u just being bad

Succubús GF2 votes

Honey... We were the same rank last season... And When I am not working I am climbing back into plat, truthfully g2-p4 is a very similar elo... So what are you implying here? [sg-lulu]

Handy Sandy 1 votes

im saying you're bad because you don't know how to play against champions that tilt you, and instead of learning how to play against then you'd wine on the boards and tell riot to "fix" their problems when they're pretty minor compared to everything else in the game.

The only reason that post isn't downvoted into oblivion is because those 3 champions have bad reputations which makes them easy to pick on lol

Tomoe Gozen10 votes

If you really believe that there are many champions that deserve a permaban status, then that's exactly the reason why Riot shouldn't give you the ability to ban more. Learn your counters and ban the hardest matchups.

TempName548465 votes

if you really believe there aren't more than 10 champions worthy of perma bans you aren't very good at the game.

NorthernRedStar2 votes

League of pick2win since season 7.

True damage, hard CC, mobility, and burst all in ONE KIT! On multiple champions!

Tomoe Gozen1 votes

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if you really believe there aren't more than 10 champions worthy of perma bans you aren't very good at the game.

I don't know about that statement, mate. It's either "Riot doesn't know how to balance League because half or the champions rub me the wrong way" or it's "i can't face the truth that i'm not good so i'll point a finger at someone else to blame". Occam's Razor is a philosophical principle that can give you a correct answer in your case. The more assumptions you have to make in order to support your theory that Riot is just terrible at balancing their game, the unlikelier the theory is.

Because the champions you don't like aren't in the same class or role and it's very unlikely that half of them are just out of whack so much that you (or anyone) can't play against them. You're not a good League player if you really think this is the case and you're lying to yourself by pointing a finger and blaming someone else for that.

TempName548461 votes

funny how the higher up you go on the ladder the more champions people claim that should be perma banned, i wonder why ... could it be that when you are closer to optimal play picks matter more and you can't outperform a stronger champion?

its kind of ironic being called bad at the game by someone of much lower rank though.

Tomoe Gozen1 votes

Yea, you don't get to talk about anyone's rank since you're level 13 and have 0 games on op.gg. If you want to contest that, i suggest you hop on your real account and have a discussion with your rank right where your mouth is, TempName54846. Or maybe you're banned so you're chilling here.

Secondly, this "optimal performance" you're speaking of is only applicable to top tier Challengers and pro players. You don't need to concern yourself with what's viable unter the optimal circumstances, considering you'll never even smell that rank, let alone be there at one point in time. Don't think of this as an insult, i won't be there either. As a matter of fact, 99% of the playerbase won't.

If you want to make a specific case that pros and high Challengers need more bans, be my guest. But the topic of this discussion is that someone requested that we need more bans because, oh lawdy, they just can't deal with champions in general. And what better way to win a lane then to eliminate the opponent entirely from picking anything viable? It's all shite picks for them, you get the good stuff. Because that's fair.

TempName548461 votes

http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=nice%20table yeah i am banned from posting on boards from that account.

anyways as many "pro and high challengers" will agree that somewhere starting around high plat champion picks win the lane rather than skill because the players are fairly close to optimal laning, sure you can still beat these players with superior decision making and shit but the champion picks dictate the lane which is the main reason i stopped playing top lane and started jungling somewhere around that elo.

what better way to win a lane then to eliminate the opponent entirely from picking anything viable?

i mean none of the champions OP listed are even good, the champions are just ... well more or less cancer if you will.

Bisaknosp5 votes

it is beyond me why zoe is allowed to have this retarded kit while also having high base stats

Succubús GF3 votes

The fact that Zoe wasn't a "HAHA just kidding" removed from game meme of a champion and has STAYED around is actually making me gag lmao. Who the fuck said a syndra r on a basica ability was ok?

Silly Neeko4 votes

-insert nidalee here-

Perma CC4 votes

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The fact that Zoe wasn't a "HAHA just kidding" removed from game meme of a champion and has STAYED around is actually making me gag lmao. Who the fuck said a syndra r on a basica ability was ok?

Zoe's Q is not a Syndra R... its a very difficult telegraphed skill shot. syndra's R is a point and click nuke...

Suicidal Maniac5 votes

Zoe is not incredibly broken as the game stands right now, her base damage is in a good spot and her e is INCREDIBLY easy to dodge. Fizz is not good in a team wide sense, the amount of fizz picks that lose games right now is insane. And yasuo is incredibly easy to shutdown with any CC. Current bans mid are more morg, who is broken, with her completely counter intuitive kit, where she can brain dead waveclear without having to worry about poke, q if you try and do anything, and even if she misses she presses r and zhonya's or stopwatch and you also have to back off OR die. Trynda is another example of a ban worthy champion.

Akali is SO HOT5 votes

None of those champions are overpowered.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

overpowered can correlate with being 'cancerous' but they aren't one and the same. The OP called them cancer, not OP.

Malix Farwin1 votes

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None of those champions are overpowered.

I'd argue that Yasuo is a little overtuned at the moment and the stats sort of back that up. I know people hate hearing about the LCS here but he is pick or ban for a reason. Not that it really matters to me, keeping him banned is not a problem usually.

Silly Neeko3 votes

My philosophy is in my games to generally not ban anyone unless i have a friend in the lobby with me who asked previously if i could ban someone.

Reason why is i do not mind who i play against. Others can ban who they want, but think of it this way:

High pick rate with high ban rate = about the same as a low pick rate champ or off meta. I have stomped some people with Mordekaiser top just because nobody plays him really.... so they forget what they do or how much they can do early.

If i play against one of those high pick rate champions i want to know how to play against them. Every champion has a weakness that can be exploited, your job is to find it, and stab it so hard with a knife they regret picking that champion.

Plus theres quite a few people that pick a champ just because its "instant win" then they do horrible and want to ff@15. Then proceed to spam surrender until the game is over.

But thats just me lol

NorthernRedStar2 votes

Top: Camille, Yasuo, Mundo, Irelia, Vlad Mid: Anivia, Zed, Yasuo, Fizz, Talon, Vlad, Zoe. Jungle: Lee (ally), Kha'zix, Kayn, Graves, Xin Zhao, Shaco Support: Janna, Lulu, Morgana. ADC: Kai'Sa, Twitch, Xayah (if Rakan).

These are roughly the champs you'd have to ban to have a somewhat balanced game.

sobi9992 votes

Wtf u forgot these for mid lane Zed Leblanc

P1 DMage1 votes

Well I mean, it's not like they deserve a ban. It honestly depends on your elo, but as someone in silver (not much, but i have a few years on my belt for experience) but those champs are easy to fight against, but what i think your missing is DrMundo Diana Gragas Leblanc cause these people, there's just...nothing you can do, absolute nothing.

Shazzbot691 votes

giving more bans is not solving the issue of riot being shit at balance.

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