What did you do to syndra?

Succubús GF··4 votes·1,324 views

Like I'm so confused why you changed her w? Her w was a really good utility spell. But you removed it and added true damage as a bonus? I don't even know what that accomplishes? I might as well max e second instead of last now because that 20 % seems like cassiopeias new passive (a nerf wagon in the form of a filler) I mean like its not AWFUL but its kinda unnecessary if you think about it.

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MrHaZeYo4 votes

Now it takes some skill again to get a 7 sphere ult

Succubús GF1 votes

I mean as a lv 7 syndra I was fine with getting 5-6, still serves its purpose.

MrHaZeYo1 votes

I'm confused, you only got 5-6 when her W picked up 3? I mean it should be pretty easy to get at least 7,

Now you got to actually set it up.

I'm also lvl 7 on her, has been one of my fav champs since I started playing in S3

Lauchmelder1 votes

There never was a reason to get 7 balls if you went for the squishy. Most of them are gone in 5 balls, and even if it didn't work you had them low on HP anyway from a Q + E combo.

7 Ball ults were only ever used if it was a fed enemy that had to go before the teamfight started or by people that couldn't properly land her stun.

Succubús GF1 votes

I meant getting 5-6 now that I don't get to pick up more than one

Valderis Vandala3 votes

It's sad really, it was the only part of her passive that truly felt like she was breaking barriers. But its not like its not a understandable change, people really hated her easy high ball ults.

Succubús GF1 votes

I mean I understand that it gave more power than she probably should have, but that's her identity, power without limit is what she says when she maxes q, I love to watch them fly when maxing w. watching.THEM.fly. The identity of getting 100-0d because you got hit by spheres just makes sense as her core identity is based around that. idk I'm just salty they keep changing her when she was fine, she was strong, but fine by all means.

Valderis Vandala1 votes

Being too strong (game balance wise) isn't a identity. Identity isn't 100-0ing someone.

They have to keep changing her because she can be better, her passive feels lack luster because the effects it gives don't feel like she is actually breaking any barriers, which is important because thats part of her lore, her identity of a ever growing power that has broken lose of her chains. I think... Haven't read it in a while so I could be wrong.

Succubús GF1 votes

Annies identity in game is known for her 5 man tibber ult during a team fight and 100-0ing someone, is it not? Most burst mages have similar if not the same identity. Her lore was centered around her getting her powers back to full power after being trapped by her elders and "restraining" her power.

Valderis Vandala1 votes

No, that is just Annie's gameplay pattern, or kit or whatever it was called, I don't remember the correct terminology for it.

Annie's identity is being a little girl that burns the shit out of people and having a demon as a pet teddy bear. Annie's identity and gameplay have no conflict, unlike Syndra, who is feared for her awesome ever growing psychic power, which is not represented well in her gameplay.

Jbels1 votes

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Being too strong (game balance wise) isn't a identity. Identity isn't 100-0ing someone.

They have to keep changing her because she can be better, her passive feels lack luster because the effects it gives don't feel like she is actually breaking any barriers, which is important because thats part of her lore, her identity of a ever growing power that has broken lose of her chains. I think... Haven't read it in a while so I could be wrong.

Well shit, we already have Veigar for that, and that's not even his theme

Valderis Vandala1 votes

Yeah, although veigar is more comical and evil, Syndra is just power hungry.

Taro Bun2 votes

I think because Riot wanted to take the damage capability out of her ultimate

Hige2 votes

it's thematically unfitting I agree but you underestimate the power of her W, maxing E second is a pretty big mistake I think, since W has almost the exact same base damage than Q and similar scaling, with the new true damage there you might want to level W first if there are tanky enemy champions running around since true damage will hurt them a lot more than simply magic damage

Succubús GF2 votes

I was just being dramatic, I hate maxing e because its kinda useless. But it just feels a lot like cass, in the sense of "oh sh*t we need to change this as quickly as possible here just throw a random passive on it"

Hige1 votes

oh yeah, it does feel rushed a lot, I wish they would have nerfed her ult's damage and kept the several spheres thing, in my understanding that was what was breaking syndra, having crazy high damage from her ult because she was able to kept more than 1 sphere alive, well that and the hitbox from E

Craft Zeppelin2 votes

Im starting to get confused what do they even want to do with syndra. now the Qs 9-sec passive upgrade is like floating in space without the W upgrade

Lauchmelder1 votes

Had to check up patchnotes and surrender@20 to check for a Cassiopeia change just to find nothing. Do you mean her current passive (that makes her hellalot stronger)?

Concerning Syndra, it was way too easy for bad Syndras to set up a max ball ult, now she needs at least a bit of knowledge (even if it's only "grab your first Q and cast Q a third time").

Succubús GF1 votes

Her old passive was VERY loaded, and arguable better than no boots, its strong but its a filler and we all know it, because if it wasn't name and anivia wouldn't buy boots either.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

Either they nerf the ease at refreshing balls or they nerf the ult damage. This way you can still get the high damage if skilled enough, and empowered W still does bonus dmg

Poske1 votes

Syndra rework bassicly did nothing

Except added E>Q combo ..

Bigger change for syndra was the fact that she can invade at lvl 1 due to jungle changes

Catastrop1 votes

I don't even care, I maxed either W/E before the mage update, all this change does is allow me to not feel pigeonholed into W max second.

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