why do we adc mains have one of our champion unable to be viable because of pro but when it's mages, they have riot working on galio, giving ryze a billion of rework, so much attention to azir, and now taliyah too?
Oleandervine3 votesThe mages you mention (barring Ryze) have kits that are much simpler to manipulate, and core mechanics in their kits are not inherently problematic. Taliyah, for example, has a pretty basic spell caster kit, and the majority of her fixes can be done via number tweaks.
Kalista, on the flip side, has problems inherently built into her kit. Her passive makes her untouchable by melee. She has vision scouting, she can save her support from a sizable range for virtually no consequences, and her infinite spear stacking mechanic makes her incredibly good at taking objectives. So many of the reasons why she's too good in competitive rest in the core design of her kit, and they're things that number tweaks alone cannot correct.
Handy Sandy 2 voteswhy do we adc mains have one of our champion unable to be viable because of pro
lol but then you realize that all of the mages that were good in pro are pretty terrible currently 
and despite all attempts they just made more problems like with Azir's rework, or they straight up failed in Ryze's case. Or just forgotten like all 50 of Syndra's bugs that idk if Riot has gone around to fixing yet. and then there's MALZAHAR.
out of all the ADCs only 1 of them has issues with professional play
???
D357R0Y3R2 votesit doesn't matter that half of mages are terrbile because of pros all those champions you listed have received a huge amount of attention from riot, or will have attention in the future (taliyah)
Handy Sandy 1 votesSo what if they get attention? They're the majority. Kalista needs a complete rework, numbers will not fix her because her design is terrible. Riot already has a schedule for reworking they're not just gonna shove her up on the list.
Meanwhile there's like 10 mages that are in terrible states, who just need some numbers changed or a mini rework.
Khristophoros2 votesGiving Talia and Ryze semi-globals was such a huge mistake. It was already known how hard it was to balance Twisted Fate and eventually Riot settled on him being a niche pick erring towards being undertuned. Then they were like you know what? Fuck it, let's give two champs with way more powerful kits basically his ult (at least the part of his ult that he is most picked for) so the result was these champs are impossible to balance. And of course both of their ults have powerful secondary effects besides just moving them across the map that makes them arguably way better than TF's ult.
IcyPepper1 votesI dunno, vision of your enemies is kinda cool.
But I get your point.
saltran1 votesWell, Azir was reworked for the same reason but kept the same problems and was "solved" in the same way: number nerfs until he's awful.
Chembaron Yamada4 votesBecause the general concept of Azir is flawed.
Every other champion dealing damage with swarming additional units lets you interact with them.
But not Azir. His soldiers are untargetable and all you can do is waiting for them to expire.
D357R0Y3R3 votesexactly, what I hate about him too is that he's basically an ADC+control mage at the same time
BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votesThey already gave Kalista multiple mini changes to her kit, she’s not a simple bandaid solution like other champions.
D357R0Y3R1 votes2017: kalista buff enters pick/ban statue until her nerf in march 2018 patch 8.4 When did she get a rework? she got a nerf in 2017 where they increased her ult CD to 180 sec and that's it
LSmaster161 votesI'm pretty sure that part of why Kalista is being kept weak is because she's so toxic to play against for melees when she's strong
D357R0Y3R3 votesNo, she's kept weak because right now Pros are picking her in MSI while her kit in regular is garbage, any buff to her would make her pick/ban in pro once again
Bigrig1073 votesWhat are you talking about? Kalista has seen a minimal amount of play at MSI, I think it was like one game?
When they nerfed her passive Oathsworn bonus to give AD instead of AS and reduced her range a bit, she became unviable.
Do you actually watch MSI?
D357R0Y3R2 votesshe was picked twice by koreans, while being in this current garbage state this should tell you something about what would happens if she gets buffed
Bigrig1072 votesTwice. By two players. In all of MSI. And you expect to believe she’s broken still? Yeah, no way.
D357R0Y3R1 voteswhat's your problem? I'm not saying she's broken I'm saying that if you buff her she will rise to pick/ban once again read the damn conversation
Snowman Arc1 votesRammus was also picked, should I be worried?
Chembaron Yamada1 votesWait, what? Rammus got actually picked in pro play?
Snowman Arc1 votesYes, in a troll match in the end, where winning or losing had no meaning.
Snowman Arc2 votesKalista is a very hard champion to play and the reason why it's been nerfed to shit is because of competitive, where there is coordination to make her kit work. Proccing her W is one of those things. Having coordination means you can reliably proc it for good damage. Her R also needs good coordination and trust.
Buffing her to make her viable in soloQ will make her a monster in pro play and they can't have that.
Snowman Arc1 votesWait, what? What's the Taliyah rework?
