Can we tone down ADC's to see some other champions?

Diamond Frostman·Feb 16, 2016·2 votes·824 views

Is anyone else tired of seeing top and jungle. It does seem a little unfair that an entire class is so powerful at the moment, they are getting most of the class picked or banned out in almost every LCS game.

and could also do with a bit of a nerf as well but at least they are played down in bot lane.

I want to see more varity in champion pick-ups and not just, "spam every ADC in the game" at the moment, bar poor and who really need to be looked at.

The fact that these champions are being picked in roles OTHER then ADC should show Riot that they are overtuned. I dunno if anyone here will agree with me on this but I do feel that ADC's have a distinct advantage at the moment and maybe we can start seeing other champions in top, mid and jungle then just ADC;s because of their rediculous items and power spikes.

8 Comments

TurquoiseYoshiFeb 16, 20161 votes

Quinn top is like Darius at Worlds, eventually people will realize that it's not something to pick in every situation with its hard counter up. Graves was nerfed last patch, as was Corki.

Kalista needs a reworked spell or something, she'll just keep getting nerfed because of pro play until she's absolutely worthless. Lucian might need a nerf, but I think his popularity is just due to his early-game power as a lane bully.

Twitch is actually pretty strong right now and Urgot is getting a buff (I think it's a buff).

The point of the marksman update (using the word "marksman" specifically) was to make the role usable in any position. Pick pretty much any other role. We'll go with assassins here. There are mid lane assassins, top lane assassins, jungle assassins, assassin-y ADCs, and even some supports with assassin qualities (Blitzcrank). How about mages? There are top lane mages, jungle-viable mages, tons of mid mages, and many support mages. Mages, the staple of the mid lane for most of LoL's existence, are usable in 4 lanes and have been that way for a long time. But for years, marksmen have just been in the ADC role, with maybe one or two of them venturing out as a somewhat popular cheese pick (Quinn top). Yes, some of them are/were overtuned, but just their existence is other lanes is better than it is worse.

TenshouSNKFeb 18, 20161 votes

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Quinn top is like Darius at Worlds, eventually people will realize that it's not something to pick in every situation with its hard counter up. Graves was nerfed last patch, as was Corki.

Kalista needs a reworked spell or something, she'll just keep getting nerfed because of pro play until she's absolutely worthless. Lucian might need a nerf, but I think his popularity is just due to his early-game power as a lane bully.

Twitch is actually pretty strong right now and Urgot is getting a buff (I think it's a buff).

The point of the marksman update (using the word "marksman" specifically) was to make the role usable in any position. Pick pretty much any other role. We'll go with assassins here. There are mid lane assassins, top lane assassins, jungle assassins, assassin-y ADCs, and even some supports with assassin qualities (Blitzcrank). How about mages? There are top lane mages, jungle-viable mages, tons of mid mages, and many support mages. Mages, the staple of the mid lane for most of LoL's existence, are usable in 4 lanes and have been that way for a long time. But for years, marksmen have just been in the ADC role, with maybe one or two of them venturing out as a somewhat popular cheese pick (Quinn top). Yes, some of them are/were overtuned, but just their existence is other lanes is better than it is worse.

Quinn is in almost every game now making me feel she is a meta pick? She is being played a lot in lcs, she better get more skins now since popularity. Do you think at this rate, she will see some play at worlds?

TurquoiseYoshiFeb 18, 20161 votes

Quinn is not in almost every game, she's technically a meta pick although she isn't a good one, she got a skin less than a year ago and will likely get exactly one this year (Riot is trying to get out one skin per champion this year), and she will likely not be played at Worlds because the meta will likely change significantly by then, with additional possible nerfs to Quinn coming.

TenshouSNKFeb 18, 20161 votes

What skin? Guesses?

Ale non è maleFeb 18, 20161 votes

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Kalista needs a reworked spell or something, she'll just keep getting nerfed because of pro play until she's absolutely worthless.

Kalista just need Riot to focus on what excessive strength Kalista has they really want to concentrate upon, and hit that really hard, leaving anything else unscathered That's the thing, because so far what Riot has done has either being buffing and nerfing all her kit numbers and mechanics across the chart, rather than focus on one to buff/nerf exclusively to try to put her in balance

i feel like Riot wanted to see in what kind of gameplay stle Kalista would fit, but the problem is that actually kalista fit in ALL the gameplay styles, and her presence alone basicaly is keeping a lot of champ from being possibly viable, because her presence is too strong and the only other champs used in bot lane as marksmen (and even some supports) are the only one that aren't dumpstered too much by Kalista

YCitizenSnipsYFeb 18, 20161 votes

Watch something other than the LCS than.

In the LCK KT just played a game against JAG with Rammus top and Rumble jungle.

hotarseFeb 18, 20161 votes

i think quinn top is a fun change, one that probably won't last so i dont mind it for now. graves jungle isn't in every game, but he's starting to edge towards the obnoxious zone. however, recent nerfs may cause lead to less play for the man who quit smoking. i agree that lucian and kalista are problematic. i would also add corki to that list. i dont know why, but i've always disliked that little guy. he has the worst name. however, i think jungle diversity would be a bigger win for league right now than adc diversity. btw, u looking forward to seeing kogmaw in every game?

Wolfram OxfordFeb 19, 20161 votes

Nothing about ADCs are over powered, its just that the new ones you are seeing are being picked in different roles besides bot lane because of specific changes Riot made to them. Quinn has a lot of mobility and is even better at 1v1 fighting, this makes here good top or jungle. Graves is very tanky and does a decent amount of burst damage, this makes him good as a top laner or a jungler in some situations. Corki provides a lot of mixed damage as well as roam pressure, so he is a good mid laner. Its not the role itself, its just that Riot allowed these champions to excel in different areas besides being a good damage dealer, to allow some diversity in the role, however with the changes Riot didn't forget to make adjustments to make sure these champions aren't OP.