I have Misfits as 4th in Group D...

Electro522·Oct 8, 2017·5 votes·716 views

And I think many other people do as well. All props to them, they're playing very well.

But at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if TSM doesn't make it out of groups. Just like every other year at worlds, TSM disappoints, and chokes. Sure, they're 2-1, but they're 2-1 in a group that everyone thinks is the easiest group for TSM to be in.

They're only getting lucky in their very long games, making horrible macro plays across the board, and in today's game, being pushed around all over the map. Misfits were playing them like a damn fiddle!

I'll admit, I had TSM as first in Group D for my Pick'em, only because of how damn easy the group looked. But as this goes on, I'm starting to see the error of my ways.

16 Comments

Better JunglerOct 8, 20171 votes

Tsm
Flash Wolves
Team WE
Misfits

Tsm is 2-1 they aren't doing that bad at all. it was just a bad game. Misfits is surprising everyone. Cant really write them off when they've been performing really well aside from todays game.

Electro522Oct 8, 20171 votes

TSM has struggled immensely in each of their games, nearly losing (or, losing in today's case) each of their games.

Yes, I am writing them off because it is WAY too similar to past years. They lost my respect a very long time ago, and it's going to take a HELL of alot more than what I've been seeing in order to gain it back.

I will honestly say, with 100% certainty, that if they don't go 3-0 in a VERY convincing fashion next week, then they will have a very small chance at getting out of groups, and no chance in hell at getting through quarterfinals.

Better JunglerOct 8, 20171 votes

Did you watch TSM vs WE? that was a massacre.

FW was a close one, but it wasnt a terrible performance imo.

Better JunglerOct 8, 20171 votes

Also, Hauntzer has been poppin off.

The only real problem on TSM is Svenskaren

GeminiRuneOct 8, 20171 votes

I think that's a bit much to burden them if they don't convincingly win their matches 3-0. It's as if you're setting the bar super high because of the "Easy Group" card and then translating that to compare to series format, probably comparing TSM bo5 to Korean bo5; just my assumption. They make it, I don't think it will really be no chance especially if they get 1st. But in the reality, no team outside RNG has looked clean convincing in their games so far. I feel like the loss just shatters hope in fans just like that however

Demacian JUST1CEOct 8, 20171 votes

I think it should be:

TSM
WE
FW
misfits

BigBellBruteOct 8, 20171 votes

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TSM has struggled immensely in each of their games, nearly losing (or, losing in today's case) each of their games.

Yes, I am writing them off because it is WAY too similar to past years. They lost my respect a very long time ago, and it's going to take a HELL of alot more than what I've been seeing in order to gain it back.

I will honestly say, with 100% certainty, that if they don't go 3-0 in a VERY convincing fashion next week, then they will have a very small chance at getting out of groups, and no chance in hell at getting through quarterfinals.

TSM did not struggle against We. Out of the gold check at every minute, they were behind in gold in just 3 out of the 31, once by 5, once by 12, and once by 654. They were never significantly behind all game and were ahead for the final 10 minutes of the game.

III BAKURYU III Oct 8, 20171 votes

Very similar to Flash Wolves style of just waiting and waiting and waiting for 1 last fight so, the death timers are too long. I think TSM are playing well..ish, but overall it's not all that impressive. I do like a few things tho; Svenskeren walking the carries out or from harm - I remember he walked in front of Double near wolves on their side, that's smart thinking. Hauntzer is performing like a beast and is making plays happen for TSM in the early game.
However, a few things that's annoying me is like I said the long a$$ do nothing FW style play but also Bjergsen getting Syndra pick after Syndra pick, do teams not know that's all he really plays, and why isn't he bursting out people, I mean it's Syndra, You press R !
Funny how Syndra has been a meme for a good portion of a year now since she really became meta and yet, when Worlds was announced and some champions got nerfed, she didn't hmmmm, I wonder why, maybe it's Bjergsen's main champion and his main pocket pick in these International events, maybe Riot wants TSM to advance since, many people would most likely stop watching if TSM gets eliminated from Groups 3 years in a row, especially since Riot making the LCS a more franchised path and don't want to lose viewers and in turn lose sponsors etc, lots of questions and most likely, predictable answers.

alpewonOct 8, 20171 votes

The problem on TSM is that Nami isn't as strong as janna would've been in TSM's team comp, Svenskeren sucked - Doublelift just made way too many bronze mistakes. Props to hauntzer for deff being the MVP in TSM, Bjergsen did great but maybe a different pick like corki or ahri something with mobility.

DarkRoosterOct 8, 20171 votes

Syndra main here, she has been nerfed multiple times. Now its questionable if she is even top tier pick, that is why you don't see that many Syndras in pro plays.

HeeroTXOct 8, 20171 votes

I wondered after the FW game why TSM didn't prioritize Sejuani. Now I know. Holy hell, hit a USEFUL damn ult Svenskeren. TSM let Maxlore have WAY too much free rein. Keep Sven on Gragas, because he's mainly just tank utility/peel.

SiytherOct 8, 20171 votes

there is always next week but it doesnt feel like they are playing all that well. they arent being proactive. Although gotta give them props for crushing WE ( a korean team ) Misfits just wow on paper they are not good enough to get outta this group but they are def playing better than any other EU team atm. The worst part is that c9 looks way cleaner than immortals or Tsm and there the play in team. I hope alll 3 get outta groups. But if they do Skt and longzu are gonna 3-0 every one of them .

Electro522Oct 8, 20171 votes

WE is a Chinese team, not Korean.

SiytherOct 8, 20171 votes

my bad then who is the 3 seed from korea

Electro522Oct 8, 20171 votes

Samsung Galaxy.