I'm.........I am utterly speechless.
1.....single.....teamfight...
SKT was 11k gold down.......They didn't even have a single tower down......Faker was 0/4/0........
I.......how do you come back mentally from a game like that? Analysts are saying that EDG are very vulnerable to mentality, so.........
I........have no words.
Villiers14 votesThey didnt have someone on their team saying GG FF @ 15
Fairyfleur3 votesSeriously, I get this all the time in soloQ. Game is completely winnable but 6 minutes in they want to give up
GripaAviara12 votesTwitch. Broken late game champ.
SkTwitch
Electro52222 votesTwitch didn't win that game...
Rakan+Orianna did.
GripaAviara6 votesSuuure. 7/1 twitch being untouchable in the late phases
Virgin Ray35 voteshttps://media.giphy.com/media/Pq31kHa0MDWuc/giphy.gif
me watching you two downvote each other
BigBellBrute21 voteshttps://media.giphy.com/media/Pq31kHa0MDWuc/giphy.gif
me watching you two downvote each other
You're going to need some more popcorn
Rikirie4 votesMe, an intellectual, watching you two downvote each other. FTFY
Electro52213 votesAnd what makes you think allowed him to get to that point?
Remember, that Twitch was 0/0/0 without a single objective taken before the wombo. I would be far more terrified of the 3/0/6 Xayah with several objectives down.
Twitch. Did not. Win. This game.
TriGunstaR4 votes[{quoted}](name=Paleo Electro,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=q0IqdwYH,comment-id=0004000000000001,timestamp=2017-10-06T14:17:57.049+0000)
And what makes you think allowed him to get to that point?
Remember, that Twitch was 0/0/0 without a single objective taken before the wombo. I would be far more terrified of the 3/0/6 Xayah with several objectives down.
Twitch. Did not. Win. This game.
You're wrong.
Even the casters mentioned it, that Twitch being 0/0/0 was the reason they won the game. It was because while all lane were failing, Twitch being 0/0/0 actually kept pressure on the map for the comeback and to actually have enough experience in level to do damage. While they pulled the wombo combo, it was Twitch who popped his ultimate and did damage to the entirety of the team while they were locked down. It was Twitch who kept pressure on bot lane while everyone else was dying and it was Twitch who kept EDG from snowballing because they were afraid to get caught out.
It was Bang's Twitch that helped SKT get back into the game from a falling state. As I mentioned before, even the Casters mentioned this.
ChaoticPinecone2 votesActually, youre wrong.
Youre too focused on what Twitch did to realize one simple thing - what would have happened if Bang was on a different champ? Any ADC in that position (IE + Runnans, 4 members of the enemy team CCed, no enemy tank with the most armor bought being a Zhonyas + your Cho instadeleting the support before they have time to locket) would thrive. Doesnt matter if it was Xayah, Trist, Kalista, Varus, Ashe, or whomever. Any ADC would have done enough damage to win the fight if they are free hitting armorless opponents who are chain cc-ed.
What game did you watch? Twitch alone wasnt doing much to stop EDG from snowballing - in fact, nothing stopped EDG from snowballing. EDG snowballed pretty damn hard until that point. But snowballing doesnt ensure a victory if you dont play to your comp's strengths and allow the enemy to play into their comp's strengths.
EDG just screwed up. Its that simple. EDG's comp was focused around getting an early lead since they didnt choose to scale. But part of keeping that lead means not making mistakes. EDG had 3 pink wards and full vision of SKT's blue side, but none on the red side or Baron which was spawning.
Theres a reason why the meta is the meta. Its cause when you play off-meta, you really do need to play a perfect game. If they chose more Meta champions like Maokai or Gragas, they could have disengaged the fight. If they had someone like a Syndra they could have disengaged as well. But EDG decided to go all-in on a earlygame comp, and you saw what happens when you get caught by a lategame comp built around the 5v5.
Why were they going toward midlane where they have zero wards against a comp with 4 players who can engage and no tank on their side? WHY WASNT CLEARLOVE BURROWED SO HE CAN USE HIS TREMOR SENSE TO SEE THE PLAY COMING? Oh - Clearlove decided that clearing mid (even though his team can clear without him) was more important than vision. Clearlove, Scout, IBoy, and Meiko grouped up as 4 against a team with AoE hard engage from fog. Mouse wiffs his ult. EDG had all 10 summoners up and none of them dodged the initiation.
EDG screwed up. It was for just a second, but they screwed up. Thats what lost them the game.
Secret Baller2 votesThey made a good team play, but ultimately Twitch's ult carried that team fight. Everyone who was watching knows it. Also, stop writing books man. Nobody is going to read your shit when it's obnoxiously long.
ChaoticPinecone1 votesYoure wrong. I can prove it, but theres no point in actually giving the numbers to someone who complains about a little bit of reading.
Edit - watch it in slow motion if you dont believe me. Look at the damage Twitch does. Its not amazing.
Walmart Porn2 voteshe would have never made it there without the rakan engage followed by the 4 man ori. he put in work later on but without that wombo at that specific time skt likely would have fallen to far behind for twitch to carry. They had to get a perfect opening at just the right time and they did it. Without kill and assist gold 2 towers and a baron to buff that twitch up they would not have made it to late game for him to be strong enough to make a diffrence. he got 2 zeal items and a completed i.e off that he would have not otherwise gotten.
Karn Bishop7 votesWell op i know the concept is foreign to you but they do it by not screaming "GG GAME OVER GG" over a few misplays and recognizing that they have a solid team comp that will pop off with the right opportunity / time.
[sg-ahri-2]
Electro52210 votesWhy are you implying I do this? I'm actually one of those people who not only very rarely talks in chat, but also votes no on most surrender votes unless the situation is quite hopeless.
And by hopeless, I mean being down 10 to 15 kills, and having 1 or more inhibs down by 15 minutes.
Karn Bishop1 votesThen you asked a question you knew the answer to already?
Electro5229 votesUh........no?
Are you talking about me asking about how you come back mentally from a game like that? If so...
Of course they're not going to just rage when they get a little behind. They're a professional League of Legends team who are not only the most decorated team in China, but one of the most recognizable teams in the entire world. Why would they give up so easily?
My point is that a game like that is a massive blow to morale, and no matter how much you work on it, it could still affect your performance down the line. Also, EDG is a team that is very susceptible to morale, especially when it comes to Clearlove. In all of their interviews, it all boiled down to "We live and die by Clearlove". If he's not in the right mindset, the team stumbles on itself. If he is in the right mindset, they fricken dominate.
So, its questionable as to how that game will affect them in the future. Will they be able to shrug it off, or is this effectively the end of their worlds run?
DRAGOON Burst4 votes[{quoted}](name=Paleo Electro,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=q0IqdwYH,comment-id=000f000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-06T20:42:59.003+0000) "China"
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DJMason882 votesIsn't that basically what Korean solo-que is like tho? I heard they open mid at the slightest disadvantage.
GeminiRune6 votesYesterday I said EDG was just afraid of pulling the trigger. They pulled the trigger this time. They shot so many bullets and the enemy just never died. They only needed to deflect one bullet. And that's the impressive part. Everything EDG objectively had was gone. That just hurts man. I feel for them.
SciFi Scrivener5 votesThat was insane to watch. I honestly made the mistake of counting SKT out of that game. I thought, even SKT can't over come this deficit... I WAS WRONG. Everyone other team at Worlds, and LZ, has to be scared.
Thefrostyviking4 votesSKT's first kills in that match, the teamfight they won was so clean like holy shit.
Faker landed the ori ulti "edit" following the rakan ulti "end of edit", locked all enemy carries in, followed by j4 ultiamte and Twitch to shot everything inside dead.
That fight was so clean, it was picture perfect like they were styling on the poor guys.
GrReaper963 votesPoor Rakan everybody ignores his perfect engage
Thefrostyviking2 votesI kind of forgot to write about it being a little too quick, but i properly did mention it in my other recent comments i swear >.<
Hemanth3 votesSKT have experience with these situations many times vs other top Korean teams, the 3 inhibs down game was spectacular
III BAKURYU III 3 votesIt ain't over till it's over ! Most teams/players if not ahead they cry in a corner and tilt, but not LCK or SKT ! Just keep playing and chill, don't rage and rely on your scaling and teamfighting skills to reach late-game in which means deathtimers OP but most players can seem to do that in this game.
MysterQ3 votesWow, thanks OP. I was going to skip the match, but sounds like I should definitely watch it.
Raoul2 votesAnd while being against the most broken OP freeelo autowin world ending champion in the game 
But lets be real here, its SKT. The second they decided to go serious, it was over. They most likely played it easy at first, having a little fun. Then they said "ok, lets win?" "Yeah lets win..." and bam, game over
HellbornCreator2 votesNo EDG just played much better early.
Anei Neko2 votesYeah, the whole time I was watching it, I was waiting for that one pivot that SKT has constantly pulled off to just take over.
Raiyza2 votesEDG failed on vision. That's it.
Electro52216 votesActually, no, they didn't. If you watch the replay, they had red side blue lit up completely, and they were just coming back from seiging bot lane. They had no chance to set up vision before the wombo, and SKT took advantage of that EXTREMELY small window.
ChaoticPinecone1 votesMeaning they failed on vision.
SKT had the foresight to ward Baron BEFORE the siege, 2 minutes before Baron spawned. Why didnt EDG do the same? Instead they backed and went straight bot without thinking about it. They left one ward in Red that would time out before Baron spawned. And even without vision, why did Clearlove unburrow? RekSai could have used her tremor sense to notice that the enemy team was in that brush - but by the time Clearlove burrows, the initiation was already starting. And if they were going toward Baron, why didnt iBoy use his trinket for that brush? All you need to do is scout that brush with your blue trinket and shoot a RekSai Q in the brush into the river for a clear path to Baron. Plus, having 4 members of your team grouped tightly together isnt great positioning against a wombo teamcomp.
I mean, I get that its a lot harder to coordinate than it seems, but EDG had the tools to not get engaged on. They just screwed up executing it against a scaling wombo comp thats a lot easier to win fights with.
TheWoollyMammoth2 votesAnd then you play with the idiots who want to surrender at 15 because Xayah got a few kills bot... Lol
KoKoboto2 votesWell that's the game right now it either goes 2 ways.
Electro5228 votesUm......I'd like to counter your argument, and say that EDG was not "dicking" around.
They were playing damn perfectly even after the wombo. SKT had one extremely small window to take, and somehow, they found it.
BigBellBrute2 votes[{quoted}](name=Paleo Electro,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=q0IqdwYH,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-10-06T13:25:29.857+0000)
I'm.........I am utterly speechless.
1.....single.....teamfight...
SKT was 11k gold down.......They didn't even have a single tower down......Faker was 0/4/0........
I.......how do you come back mentally from a game like that? Analysts are saying that EDG are very vulnerable to mentality, so.........
I........have no words.
I think I'll go celebrate by surrendering at 15.
Daunt2 votesSKT picked a late game comp while EDG was focused around midgame? Not really surprising, they couldn't end the game in time and then they simply got crushed cause SKT scaled enough to take over. And it mostly came down to Twitch being able to 1 shot people afterwards.
Electro5224 votesWhy do people think Twitch is the sole reason SKT won that? Do you not realize how important the wombo combo was?
Yes, they had a scaling comp, but they had no kills, no turrets, and no dragons. EDG was well on their way to closing out the game, and had EDG survived, or even turned it around, SKT would have surely lost.
They had 1 single opportunity to get back into the game: take EDG by surprise, keep their team CC'd long enough so the damage can come through, and have enough health left over to get Baron.
They did exactly that. Afterwards, they had enough gold to let their scaling kick in, and EDG couldn't compete.
EDG played damn near perfectly, and if SKT never found that EXTREMELY small window, that game was theirs.
HellbornCreator1 votes............................... ... ...
DarkRitual1 votesSKT knows they are better. They can get smacked around for 20 minutes, just waiting for that one opprotunity to turn things around and start their snowball through macro dominance.
sky blower1 votesWell I have seen SKT come back from much worse situations so I was actually not very surprised when they turn around in that fight. For example the first game of ROX vs SKT last year in LCK SKT come back from a 10k gold deficit. EDG performed near perfect but they picked a mid-game team comp, and it can easily be exploited if SKT can get even the slightest edge. That is the sad fact of playing this kind of team comp versus the best team in the world. Perhaps if Meiko performs better they would win that game(He could definitely ult as soon as he sees rakan flesh). I feel like they were just too overconfident in their lead, but again I am not a pro so I am just saying my own opinion. Also, iBoy did so well in that game. He was the only one who saw the possible upcoming engage in that fight and fought to the end. I can't imagine a better ADC performance than his in that game.
PhDs Nuts1 voteslol EDG blew a 28-3 lead with 2:12 left in the 3rd quarter.
