That People Is Why You Adapt (TL vs C9)

boss10000·Apr 12, 2015·8 votes·1,514 views

5 Games and every game Nidalee, Rumble, Kennen, (Corki game 5).

Liquid I get you like lulu but FFS when it is oblivious that Fenix works GREAT as a carry why do you insist on him being put on a support?

That lulu pick single handedly lost Liqid the series with them not learning if you have NO DAMAGE your useless.

Change up your bans what has C9 shown that would make Kennen a masisve threat more than Moakai, Hecarim, etc?

Or Nidalee, yes Meteos is quiet good on her but maybe you give them it so they have 1 less tank, and allows you to fight better? just do some change and stop with the stupid as hell Lulu pick mid.

13 Comments

Reynard the ƒoxApr 12, 20153 votes

Quas on Maokai was equally detrimental. They put literally the entire series on Piglet's shoulders in that game, for no reason.

JimmyNtheKudosApr 12, 20153 votes

They put three games on Pliglet's shoulders, when Fenix and Quas carried two games (Arguably game 2 was carried completely by Fenix). Piglet has been shown to be a consistent player, but not one to step-up in these situations.

xJLx MCHammerApr 12, 20152 votes

Piglet wanted to carry, he has the potential. I'm not sure why you are attacking them, they destroyed CLG with similar pick style. Quad in particular destroyed top lane with lulu. Lulu is also good because she does not require a lot of money If anything this series tells you is that picks and bans only get you so far. It's always been about execution and shot calling. TL definitely lacks both

JimmyNtheKudosApr 12, 20156 votes

You can't use the same strategy against every team. CLG's strength is their botlane, so crushing it was the obvious choice. C9 is always strong, but with many weaknesses. If you shutdown Hai and attack his limited champion pool you shutdown the shotcaller. It worked for two games because Fenix played amazingly, something that he did not replicate in the other three games. In the other three games though, Hai was more comfortable and Sneaky was a beast no way Piglet was going to come off fed enough to just carry by himself.

Off-topic: I still don't understand why people don't pay much attention to Sneaky, he's probably the best ADC in NA right now.

xJLx MCHammerApr 12, 20151 votes

{quoted}

You can't use the same strategy against every team. CLG's strength is their botlane, so crushing it was the obvious choice. C9 is always strong, but with many weaknesses. If you shutdown Hai and attack his limited champion pool you shutdown the shotcaller. It worked for two games because Fenix played amazingly, something that he did not replicate in the other three games. In the other three games though, Hai was more comfortable and Sneaky was a beast no way Piglet was going to come off fed enough to just carry by himself.

Off-topic: I still don't understand why people don't pay much attention to Sneaky, he's probably the best ADC in NA right now.

You kinda repeated what the analysts desk said. Anyways, to beat hai you need early game jungles something i will dominate can't do

JimmyNtheKudosApr 12, 20152 votes

I didn't listen to the analyst desk, but it was pretty easy to pick up. The casters do a good job to keep you inform on what's going on.

im tiltApr 12, 20151 votes

Fenix showed that he was the carry of team liquid and their ticket to the finals yet they still try to put the pressure on piglet, i dont care cuz im a c9 fan :D

Chromatic EagleApr 12, 20151 votes

Their Piglet obsession kept biting them in the ass. Did Piglet's last team play the same way or did they function more as a team?

boss10000Apr 12, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chromatic Eagle,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=d7y4twaR,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-04-12T17:33:55.963+0000)

Their Piglet obsession kept biting them in the ass. Did Piglet's last team play the same way or did they function more as a team?

You mean SKT T1? it was all Faker but it worked as allowing piglet to not get focused as basiclly you focus Faker cause its Faker, so then Piglet could get free lane without worrying about jungler to much, allowing him to do what he wanted mid - late game.

Agent2090Apr 13, 20151 votes

The major difference, Faker can still preform under that kind of pressure, Piglet seems to struggle when everything depends on him.

Daedalus871Apr 12, 20151 votes

Curse had to come in fourth.

#4ever4th

ShogunaiApr 13, 20151 votes

That was a pretty decent series, C9 took it to TL in the last 3 games. That Corki mid just destroyed them, I do like the concept of the bubble team comp but you can't run it an don't expect our opposing team to figure out how to stop it.