Sneaky said that they don't know of a current counter to Cait, and so they take it for themselves, built around it, and took the win.
This is what TSM and Immortals did not do. They didn't watch their opponents, and use things they could have used.
TwitchInMyPants58 votes"B-but if we wait 55 mins Kog can wi-" doublelift overextends for an auto and dies
MysterQ15 votesDon't worry guys. #10 player in the WORLD #19 player in the world
Greatest NA talent.
IncrediPhiLL8 votes"B-but if we wait 55 mins Kog can wi-" doublelift overextends for an auto and dies
Comment of the day goes to ^
Linna Excel3 votesPlanning on games going 55 minutes at that level is just asking to fail. So many of them end by 20 something or 30 something minutes it's not funny. At this level, for a game to go that long it means the teams have be very close to one another and that the team who picked to scale survived the early to mid game in a bad matchup.
That's just not a luxury that NA can afford.
IncrediPhiLL28 votesC9 is the best team in NA. Period. Always have been.
Raiyza5 votesAnd yet they can't beat TSM head on.
Blåbæret23 votesIt's like with all sports: Some teams you beat every time, some teams you can't beat. That's just how it is. However, the better team will advance while the worse one won't. Simple.
Raiyza13 votesExactly. I don't get why people get so butthurt because TSM lost. Tell them good try guys and move on.
Lit Corn1 voteswell at this point EDG would have advanced and not C9 everyone even most NA analysts agree to say that EDG is stronger than C9 is overall , also G2 is pretty even with RNG tbh and one if first of the group while the other is stuck , so idk if you're entirely right on that one .
Imperial Japan8 votes[{quoted}](name=Lit Corn,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=XLaALUyW,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2017-10-15T19:22:55.843+0000)
well at this point EDG would have advanced and not C9 everyone even most NA analysts agree to say that EDG is stronger than C9 is overall , also G2 is pretty even with RNG tbh and one if first of the group while the other is stuck , so idk if you're entirely right on that one .
Except for that C9 and EDG both lost to SKT twice, won against AHQ, but C9 won vs EDG.
Lit Corn1 votesnot really , EDG is 1-1 vs C9 and looked better against SKT than C9 did , also they obv were better in terms of macro imo , actually edg lost to ahq unlike c9 but they didnt lose twice to c9 ! watch group stage again before saying wrong things just to make your comment look more legitimate ...
Imperial Japan7 votes[{quoted}](name=Lit Corn,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=XLaALUyW,comment-id=000100000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-10-15T22:18:35.695+0000)
not really , EDG is 1-1 vs C9 and looked better against SKT than C9 did , also they obv were better in terms of macro imo , actually edg lost to ahq unlike c9 but they didnt lose twice to c9 ! watch group stage again before saying wrong things just to make your comment look more legitimate ...
I saw how EDG stomped SKT both games before they got into teamfights and lost horridly. If a team can't transition from early to late, WITH A 10K GOLD LEAD... just...
Lit Corn1 voteswell i didnt say anyhthing else tho , but they still looked better than c9 since they couldnt get any sizable lead agaisnt skt , also imo EDG biggest weakness is their tf , while its probably one of SKT's biggest strength , anyway they're out so we dont really care rn , just hope we gonna have a pretty fun knockout stage and not only boring picks .
Walmart Porn14 votesYet they went on in a group with skt lol and tsm couldnt even get out of a group with out any koreans. 2 of c9's 3 losses where to skt who ARE 3 time world champions for a reason. Aginst the other teams they have a 3 out of 4 win rate. That is why they advanced plain and simple.
Knowskillz1 votesJust to add on to your point. When C9 won, they won hard. C9 would of had a perfect game against AHQ if it wasn't for a mistake by Impact. Compare that with TSM, it was down to a coin flip nearly, if not every single time.
Knowskillz1 votesIt's true, C9 struggles with TSM for some reason. Last time they met I think TSM lost. I hope they do better during the split because I would prefer C9 getting a 1 seed and then pound the group of life like TSM should have.
DarkRooster1 votesSo good that they never come first spot. Its just the thing what best teams do...
Imperial Japan1 votesSo good that they never come first spot. Its just the thing what best teams do...
English?
ChompyWulf1 votesC9 is not the best. This really is two years running where they have SKT, a Chinese team that choked crazy hard, and a poorly performing LMS squad. It's almost like for two years C9 has been gifted with two teams besides TSM who do their best to not advance.
I think their upcoming match with WE will say a lot about if they would have fared well in D, and I don't think they would have done any better in B than IMT did.
MysterQ11 votesPeople "adapt" to Caitlyn by banning her.
Everyone completely forgets Trist is a thing. People even complained that DL didn't pick his Trist that he looked good on.
MysterQ6 votesHonestly, just stop picking STOP 
Imperial Japan1 votesHonestly, just stop picking STOP
You say that but In one of C9’s worlds games, the Ryze and Nautilus were key factors in winning the game
MysterQ2 votesAny game won with Ryze can be won by any other midlaner.
Imperial Japan2 votesAny game won with Ryze can be won by any other midlaner.
Except for that no champion can replicate Ryze's ult use. or the synergy of Ryze/Naut C9 showed us
Melvear2 votesExcept for that no champion can replicate Ryze's ult use. or the synergy of Ryze/Naut C9 showed us
Ryze still has a terrible win rate this worlds. That might be less of an issue with Ryze than an issue with drafts that don't work being built with him in them but the stats still say it's a terrible pick currently. I'd be curious to see what Kog'Maw's stats are.
MysterQ4 votesMost champions also cannot replicate Ryze's abysmal winrate.
Making the pick for one situation, when any other champ has a better chance to win is insane... and failed multiple times.
KazaLyn Shao6 votesAdapts to what? They had the same record as TSM both weeks. The only thing they adapted too was not having to play a tie break.
MysterQ6 votesThey adapted to Caitlyn. Unlike TSM constantly put sven on Sej when he cant hit an ult.
Kanzler5 votes[{quoted}](name=KazaLyn Shao,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=XLaALUyW,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-10-15T15:57:30.685+0000)
Adapts to what? They had the same record as TSM both weeks. The only thing they adapted too was not having to play a tie break.
Yeah, but they had a real group. TSM had the easiest group by a longshot
ChompyWulf3 votesYou mean for two years running they've just not sucked as bad as two other teams flopping worse? That's really what C9 advancing the last two years boils down to, not any real adaptation.
Secret Baller3 votesThe amount of dumb bullshit you kids cry about is ridiculous. Competition is simple, the better teams win. End of story. Nobody wins exclusively because of a bad ref call, an opponent's misplay, or arbitrary shit like another teams win/loss record. They win and advance because overall they performed better. You idiots are in here crying about shit and trash talking each other over nonsense. Then you have EU fans that are shit talking like their own teams didn't just get shit stomped a week ago. Bunch of dumbass fucking armchair quarterback nerds (even worse than football armchair quarterbacks) who think they know better than these professionals who are competing against the best in the world at what they do. SMH just support your team and enjoy the tournament, stop getting your dicks hard over what region a team is from because that shit does not matter (and should not matter) at all to any kind of real fan. TSM fans cry like bitches too when their team loses. Get the fuck over it and stop saying you're their fan if you can't support them in a loss. Because you're not, you're fake as fuck.
Lothàrs Edge1 votesThe gangster lord has spoken.
BTW you're silver 5. Lol, this post is dripping with irony.
PaffWasTaken2 votesTSM has always been a shame for NA, but people cheer them for no reason. I'm quite happy to see their reputation crumble this year, maybe they'll stop taking it easy because they (falsely) think they are the best in NA
WrÆth1 voteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuIKQpgN5VM For those of you looking for it
Osbeorn1 votesThey still had a bad 2nd week with more losses than wins so I don't know what you're on about.
DorkunedAuras1 votesThey actually won 1 game, so that's more than the other two can say
Linna Excel1 votesBad second week has been an NA thing for years. At least C9 was able to take their bad week and get to knockout stage.
TBH, if they drafted a little better they might have been able to take a second game from EDG.
TheBentOn31 votesYup. C9 put sneaky on the Cait and Contractz on the Gragas. TSM would have stuck with the same things and gotten blasted. We know that because its what they did.
Linna Excel1 votesI just hope they figure out the pick and ban phase and do 4 things:
over 
whenever possible.MeDicenWera1 votesIm really not a TSM or C9 fan, or hater of either, but when C9 goes twice to quarters on the back of better teams than themselves that to me just means they're on the same boat that TSM but luckier.
