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How do I get my team to group?

Mat7itan·6/10/2015, 2:59:23 AM·1 votes·496 views

I just finished playing some ranked games (only played 3) and I did not win a single one. The first game was just a bad game all around, and no one played well. The third game was pretty similar to the first one except we started off ahead. After a few towers had been taken I told my team we should group. No use in pushing lanes solo and not getting anything while you're ahead so I figured we should group before the enemy team caught up. Well that didn't work. No one on my team wanted to group until the enemy team got pretty far ahead and then at that point they were just able to split push us to death.

I save the second game for last because it was probably the most frustrating game I have ever played.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1851633701/214906406?tab=overview

It was a 5v4 from the 2 minute mark because I got first blood on ekko who completely messed up a dive. The game was pretty back and forth to start (our bot lane was not great), but after we had taken a few towers I told my team we should group because it's a 5v4 and there is no way they can win a team fight. The gold is pretty even and unless we completely mess something up we should not lose a team fight. I don't know how many times I said we should group throughout that game. I tried everything I could think of to get them to group. They just kept running off into the enemy jungle with no vision and dying. I don't think I have ever seen a team feed as hard as my team did. LeBlanc isn't a great team fighting champion, so even when my team started grouping (I would say around the 25 minute mark) there was nothing I could do to help my team win. They were too weak and the enemy team was too far ahead.

So how can I get my team to group? I know we would have won the 5v4 (our team comp was pretty decent for team fighting) and the third game would have been much closer if we had grouped sooner.

1 Comments

Frank3276/10/2015, 9:03:22 AM1 votes

In that second game, which of the enemies went to midlane to deal with you? I assume they had to send someone to protect their tower. If they didn't, it should've been a case of ward the flanks, take the first tower and then freely roam to the sidelanes as leblanc to get them ahead. There's also the advantage of being able to free farm which should've resulted in higher cs numbers.

If someone did cover in midlane then your master yi would've had the freedom of the entire map knowing that all 4 enemies were in lane. So he should've carried the game.

Grouping for objectives is nice but 5v4 scenarios are more easily won if you spread yourself across the map and constantly create 2v1 or 3v2 scenarios. Those should be way more advantageous than a 5v4 fight.

Of course it's always easy to say "it's a 5v4, we should win" but if you get the fiddlesticks support without sightstone then it's pretty much a 4v4 again. I hate people that go "non meta" supports and then build full damage.