Your team is feeding in every lane, what do you do?

Dr Endeavor·8/7/2015, 7:04:10 AM·3 votes·34,184 views

This isn't a gripe thread.... I honestly want positive feedback as to what to do (in possibly all roles). I have literally gone like 10 games recently where every lane outside my own is getting crushed and roaming to help doesn't work because they refuse to cooperate. If I roam too much I lose out on gold, exp, and possibly my tower... but if I DON'T roam when I am doing well then I just leave my team to their fate. I feel like I have reached a point in learning the game where I need that next step when teamwork isn't an option anymore. Any constructive insight is appreciated.

EDIT- Some things I would like to add

  1. Tried roaming, but at my current rank my team mates just watch me 1 vs 1 instead of helping... even with proper warning and they have the hp/mana to help
  2. Tried just to solo carry, but it is extremely difficult to 1 vs 5 an entire team's DPS, CC, and map coverage. It's too much when your team is behind on top of poor decisions being made leaving you at a 4 vs 5 or less before you even think about jumping on someone.
  3. Split pushing might be the closest I have gotten... but my team can't hold out most of the time when I am the only one ahead. Usually just makes people mad and the enemy team just pushes harder than I can push alone.
  4. Lastly, when I am a support I will usually just give up on my ADC and protect/support whoever is actually carrying... and that works really well. This doesn't work when no one is winning lane though....

40 Comments

Espadara8/8/2015, 6:09:04 AM10 votes

Let me tell you what to do.

Buy Tryndamere Tryndamere .

Got him? Time for a guide to split pushing.

When game starts, build Doran's Bladeitem 1055 and a health pot. Make sure you grab yellow trinket. Mute everyone with /mute all, since no one knows how to play this fucking game.

Hit minions. Don't stop hitting minions. Get your E first so you can GTFO if the enemy jungler comes. If the enemy top tries to do something, use W, hit him with a few basics. If you kept hitting minions, you'll hit him with a 35% crit chance. Fuck him up. Use Q to heal, then keep hitting minions. Don't stop hitting minions.

Build BOTRKitem 3153 ->Shivitem 3087 ->Infinity Edgeitem 3031 . Upgrade your trinket at level 9. If you kept hitting minions you'll have enough gold.

Hit minions. Don't stop hitting minions.

Enemy comes to lane? Hit them. Hit them faster. FASTER.

Someone else comes to help out? Run away. I don't care if you're three levels above them (and you will, just keep hitting minions) run away.

Wait for them to leave. Ward. Push lane again. Keep hitting minions.

Is your team losing? Good. Now you can push into the enemy base. Keep hitting minions.

Never help your team in teamfights unless you're 100% sure you'll make a difference. E in, hit them. Hit them faster. FASTER. Use Q if you get low health, then R. Hit them even faster. Then Q before R runs out. If they run away, W then E them.

Hit minions.

If you can't make a difference in the teamfight, then hit minions. Fuck your team, hit minions.

Did you die at any point pass lane phase? If you did, you're Bronze V. Buy Wards. Use them.

Do you have 75638928947 CS?

If you don't, then I have one question.

Why aren't you hitting minions?

Only Play Darius8/11/2015, 6:52:59 PM2 votes

Lose.

Not every game can be won. Hell I have watched streams of challenger players smurfing and losing games in low Gold because the team just fed too hard.

Seto Køiba8/7/2015, 1:30:43 PM1 votes

These things:

-Mejais -Farm up really well -Win your lane (go aggressively cray cray) and take their turrets. -Hunt drakes aggressively. -Pick either 1v1 champs that can 1v1 ALOT (fizz) or champs that take on entire teams (ryze)

ShadowZDancer8/7/2015, 7:00:17 PM1 votes

Roaming a really good way to carry your team when they feed and my favorite roles to roam on are jungle (for obvious reasons) and support. WHAT?!! Now i play a lot of janna so roaming is really good when you catch someone out you just w-q and shield your teamate so they do more damage but supports like thresh, blitz, naut, and karma are good at roaming because they all have really good cc and either good damage, tankiness, a shield, and maybe mobility. I also rush mobis 90% of the time and if i get them on my first back i like to give top or mid a visit then get back to lane really quick.

If your playing jungle just have good drag control and gank a lot. You can also look at peoples match history and camp them to make them tilt lol. Definitely the funniest way to win:)

Dr Endeavor8/7/2015, 7:56:29 PM1 votes

I dont have kat or annie, but I suppose I should just start spamming riven and akali to get better at them and give it a shot. Thanks :)

Mystagent8/11/2015, 3:31:05 PM1 votes

Crowd Control. That is it. That is your only answer. For this plan to work you have to win lane. This does not mean that you have to snowball. A cs lead and a kill or two is plenty.

Top - Gnar One Gnar ult will change the entire fight. Even behind anyone can just slap enemys while they are stunned against a wall. Kennen Your Passive plus your ult if used right in a teamfight is amazing way to split the team up and keep them stunned with your great dmg. Nasus Not any stuns but just stack q for an hour and get tanky with a item 3078 is great. Cassiopeia Build AP Health and make sure you get a good ult, then just q w e spam them, if your doing well in cs. it wont matter how fed the katarina or vayne is if they are dead,

Jungler- Amumu King of annoying cc Udyr Not teamfighting, but great 1v1 split pushing Nautilus Basically the same as Amumu

Mid- Galio I don't think I need to explain Brand Now he is not cc, but he has 3 aoe spells, and they hurt. Like really hurt you can easily drop a team of squish half health 1v5 so if you have some people to body block, not that hard to win the fight Soraka Win lane then heal everyone :Dsummoner 7

ADC- Draven Just snowball like crazy Kalista Decent cc with ult plus e slow, percent a percent shred, lots of wards and execute damage Jinx Just get ahead in a few kills and kill people with rockets

Sup- This role is a little hard to carry from right now. ADC are not the strongest right now, they are pretty weak. Even if you snowball your draven out of control, you will end up watching that draven attempt to 1v5 the fed katarina and just die. Play what your best at do what you can but do not expect a whole lot.item 3070 item 3070

agbudar8/11/2015, 6:48:26 PM1 votes

nothing really, you mute your whole team (incase you are the jungler since they will be spamming all chat how bad you are at your role) and wait for the enemy to make a mistake turn the tides around push turrets down as hard as you fukkin can. also dragon take it.. baron? ignore it unless you can take it without a contest. turrets are more important if you are losing.

even if you go 1/10/20 doesnt matter as long as you get that nexus some tips for lanes

Nasus best toplaner if you are not sure what to do i go 30 armor from and 27 scaling mr from runes 0/30/0 and then just farm all day till i get item 3078 with this you can basically kill turrets with 3 shots of siphoning strike.

Malzahar great midlaner is a bit hard to get to learn but you can basically 100-0 anyone even if they are fed with the right setupitem 3027 item 3116 item 3151 gives a good amount of health and also an insane synergy with his kit. so that yi is really fed? ignite E/W ult and he is dead.... unless he went full tank

Trundle is my personal to go to champ his ult is great in making fed people weak and that is great with devourer, bork and tanky from there on out he is a great pusher and team fighter or clean up champ.

Braum get to know this guy use same runes and masteries as you would with nasus. he is great with farm adc that can hyperscale into late game. Blitzcrank land hooks profit. Nunu if you know the way of nunu support... lets just say the enemy will hate you.

Tristana SivirMissFortune KogMaw Twitch good at taking turrets and thus great at winning games all of these have great team comp ults that can give your team the morale boost they need to pick up the pace and try again.

if all of this doesn't work its time to take a break from LoL and let the trolls and ragers duke it out that day without you suffering their inhumanity really play a relaxing game of skyrim where you chain spam slow thuums and slaughter armies with an iron dagger.

Randomonium8/13/2015, 12:34:30 AM1 votes

Its very hard to do it alone but if you have at least one other person you can rely on it gets much easier. The big thing is to just be patient and stall. Gold leads mean nothing once everyone gets close to full build. You best chance at winning one of those games it to get a lucky team fight and then crush their base with long death timers. You're not going to win necessarily by your good plays, you are going to win because the other team is impatient or makes mistakes. I've posted a couple videos on this kind of topic:

How to Win Losing Games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFTeVDtcUKY

How to Win a 4v5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u9aDLE0z3s

Recovering from a bad early game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svZ8M2aOMeU

How to win with a gold disadvantage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDkQpW4d1lw

Cheeseyoger8/7/2015, 7:32:38 AM1 votes

Hmm, a rough bind indeed. I don't have the experience to give you an answer, but my best guess is honestly team work. The only games I've come back from like that have come from having a really positive cohesive team that came together after laning phase ended to cover each other's backs and try to take back some objectives while avoiding giving the enemy team an ideal team fight situation to jump on.

I realize what you're saying about team work, but that's all I've got. GLHF

Earl Eulrich8/13/2015, 6:17:51 PM1 votes

If all lanes go south the only thing that can win you the game is if your opponents make horrendous mistakes to get you back in it. Sometimes you just have to accept that there´s a point from were you can´t do much on your own (besides keeping up vision and don´t go walking in the dark...).

git commit dead8/7/2015, 8:28:18 AM1 votes

split pushing and farming is really the only way to split the enemy team apart from all 5 pushing 1 lane. if you see ur team holding down mid against at least 4 of the enemy team, just tell them to not fight and just wave clear while you push a lane. once you push a lane, the enemy will either have to split off to clear or you get a free tower. Though I think this is mostly effective with a high mobility or high dps champ so you wont easily get caught/push faster.