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Things I learned trying to find my go to jungler

Dr Endeavor·7/11/2019, 5:32:08 PM·4 votes·5,735 views

Hello, this is a little something for people feeling hopeless in the jungle role and what I have more or less learned while playing my games. I am not stating this is the best, or that I am challenger, but being in silver it's difficult to feel like you have control of the game flow. This is what I noticed and what I did:

  1. When I switched for junglers that can gank at level 2 (doesn't mean its their strongest point... just that they have a good level 2), as opposed to level 3 or 6, my team benefited more. Obviously related to pressure, but I also noticed my team responded to me better because I assisted them early rather than them having to suffer til I hit 6.

  2. Junglers need to be relevant ALL game. If you are only good early, or only good late... you have a period where you are not in control. When you put all your faith on your team, you have to live with it if they don't end up carrying. That doesn't mean its a bad thing to rely on them, but any lead you give to an ally means that the ally now is in charge of carrying. Be the carry yourself, you will thank yourself later. I was really getting into early gankers like Xin Zhao but I noticed the moment mid game came around I either exploded in fights or couldn't find openings to contribute. If my team wasnt carrying themselves with the lead I gave.... then that was game.

  3. Pick junglers that can do it themselves. As much as you might expect someone to do something when you think its obvious... to some people its not or they just don't want to. This usually leads to unnecessary deaths because you can and they watch you die, or you try and drag and end up giving it up because they want to farm. Pick junglers that when everyone on the map is busy (enemies included) you can just go get the objective on your own. Nothing sucks more than a first spawn fire drake, you win a team fight as Amumu and only the enemy jungler is alive.... and your full hp team walks away from it when you start it. You know you can still solo it but all it takes is Kayn, Zac, or Yi to fly in and you and the drag are lost.

  4. Pay attention to the map. Seriously, you might actually have THE most time to look at it compared to all other players in lane. It is not your job, but you would be amazed at how many deaths you prevent by pinging or typing where enemies are moving. Even if you dont see them, but you know people have been missing for a bit and your lane is pushed up? Ping! "Hey Ahri is going top". Sometimes they still dont listen, but if you do it enough and they see you are right most of the time they will start listening.

  5. The enemy jungler IS your laner, even if neither of you are in a lane. Pay attention to where they are going and what they are doing. Habits are how you counter jungle, counter gank, or avoid counter ganks but its amazing how much my enemy jungler never pays attention to what I am doing. Took my blue early? Thats ok, I knew you were and I took yours. Better yet I also know you like to suicide dive, so you will probably greed for my blue a second time and I will be waiting.

  6. Lastly, and I have said this before in other threads, you cant be everywhere... so someone on your team has to pull weight. Look at CS, look at kills versus deaths, keep in mind snowball and carry potential. It doesn't always happen, but when it does.... cut the dead weight. That 5/0 50 cs lead Tryn will win you the game... not the 10 deaths combined bot lane. They will rage at you, a lot.... but I promise you go to the bot lane to gank you will die and they will either die too or just your corpse burn. Don't do it, stay on the side of the map thats winning and get objectives. If you are lucky and its mid then help them out, and get them to roam with you for 4 man ganks.

Hope this helps out some, as I read a lot of people really struggle to jungle. This is just my way of maybe keeping other people from having to learn the hard way like I did lol

16 Comments

iamblamb7/11/2019, 6:01:07 PM2 votes

You really should try Vi. She checks a lot of those boxes if you learn the ins and outs of some her tougher matchups. She's freelo into Gold.

Mavëríck7/11/2019, 8:24:09 PM2 votes

Absolute best two junglers; Vi JarvanIV

-Tanky -CC -Raw Damage -Can solo objectives easily -Can either split or team fight just as well -Not too mechanically demanding -Mobile -Can build item 3078

mack91127/11/2019, 6:29:16 PM1 votes

Build around a good team comp be diverse in the roster.

mack91127/11/2019, 7:01:32 PM1 votes

Try and communicate but most importantly be diverse

14daysuspensionk7/11/2019, 11:13:43 PM1 votes

When I first tried jungling (on my old account), I picked Hecarim for whatever reason.

Now I main Nidalee in the jungle.

Beerstein7/11/2019, 11:19:49 PM1 votes

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Hello, this is a little something for people feeling hopeless in the jungle role and what I have more or less learned while playing my games. I am not stating this is the best, or that I am challenger, but being in silver it's difficult to feel like you have control of the game flow. This is what I noticed and what I did:

  1. When I switched for junglers that can gank at level 2 (doesn't mean its their strongest point... just that they have a good level 2), as opposed to level 3 or 6, my team benefited more. Obviously related to pressure, but I also noticed my team responded to me better because I assisted them early rather than them having to suffer til I hit 6.

  2. Junglers need to be relevant ALL game. If you are only good early, or only good late... you have a period where you are not in control. When you put all your faith on your team, you have to live with it if they don't end up carrying. That doesn't mean its a bad thing to rely on them, but any lead you give to an ally means that the ally now is in charge of carrying. Be the carry yourself, you will thank yourself later. I was really getting into early gankers like Xin Zhao but I noticed the moment mid game came around I either exploded in fights or couldn't find openings to contribute. If my team wasnt carrying themselves with the lead I gave.... then that was game.

  3. Pick junglers that can do it themselves. As much as you might expect someone to do something when you think its obvious... to some people its not or they just don't want to. This usually leads to unnecessary deaths because you can and they watch you die, or you try and drag and end up giving it up because they want to farm. Pick junglers that when everyone on the map is busy (enemies included) you can just go get the objective on your own. Nothing sucks more than a first spawn fire drake, you win a team fight as Amumu and only the enemy jungler is alive.... and your full hp team walks away from it when you start it. You know you can still solo it but all it takes is Kayn, Zac, or Yi to fly in and you and the drag are lost.

  4. Pay attention to the map. Seriously, you might actually have THE most time to look at it compared to all other players in lane. It is not your job, but you would be amazed at how many deaths you prevent by pinging or typing where enemies are moving. Even if you dont see them, but you know people have been missing for a bit and your lane is pushed up? Ping! "Hey Ahri is going top". Sometimes they still dont listen, but if you do it enough and they see you are right most of the time they will start listening.

  5. The enemy jungler IS your laner, even if neither of you are in a lane. Pay attention to where they are going and what they are doing. Habits are how you counter jungle, counter gank, or avoid counter ganks but its amazing how much my enemy jungler never pays attention to what I am doing. Took my blue early? Thats ok, I knew you were and I took yours. Better yet I also know you like to suicide dive, so you will probably greed for my blue a second time and I will be waiting.

  6. Lastly, and I have said this before in other threads, you cant be everywhere... so someone on your team has to pull weight. Look at CS, look at kills versus deaths, keep in mind snowball and carry potential. It doesn't always happen, but when it does.... cut the dead weight. That 5/0 50 cs lead Tryn will win you the game... not the 10 deaths combined bot lane. They will rage at you, a lot.... but I promise you go to the bot lane to gank you will die and they will either die too or just your corpse burn. Don't do it, stay on the side of the map thats winning and get objectives. If you are lucky and its mid then help them out, and get them to roam with you for 4 man ganks.

Hope this helps out some, as I read a lot of people really struggle to jungle. This is just my way of maybe keeping other people from having to learn the hard way like I did lol

Actually all stuff I learned as well on my climb to gold. #3 disappears the higher you get, by gold it's almost not a problem at all.

Here's mine to you since you're so helpful to others.

  1. You are the vision. Early-mid game you should have higher vision scores than the Support, they should only pass you a ways into their quest completion. Silver players do NOT know how or where to ward, they often ward places they see warded in high level play without having the reaction time for their wards to matter (like mid laner warding bush next to them). You NEED to buy pinks and you NEED to know to deep ward where others don't. If you're not buying a pink on lvl 1, you should first back, if you don't on first back you 100% NEED to on your second back. As a secondary note, if you don't know if your gank path is warded, go full speed, even if it is it usually wont matter in Silver as long as you don't hesitate.

I notice you have no pinks. A single well placed pink early can win the game. I even showed a low silver mid buddy where to ward, hardstuck silver3-4 within a week hardstuck gold 3-4.

Also, don't ALWAYS go for the lvl 2 gank, just be able to. Sometimes it's more important to not reveal your location. I say it's a skill worth dying and losing games for, but once you master it, you need to learn to temper it. Some lanes just shouldn't be lvl 2 ganked for various reasons. Also, for most junglers there's a power trade off for doing it that takes time to recover from.