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thinking of getting Morde, advice plz

Takeuchi 17··1 votes·1,007 views

so I been thinking about what champion i'd like to try out next and Mordekaiser has always caught my eye but never went near him since I hardly ever see him in play. I main mid and support (concentrating on support this season), but I also enjoy toplane as well; which is where I'd like to add Morde for my toplane line up. (also curious if hes viable in mid or jung possibly with cinderhulk?)

To the point, I'd like to know your thoughts on his viability this season (5) and what are the best items for him. as well as tips on his laning and who you feel he best counters or has a hard time with. Thank you

(sidenote: I know i can watch youtube, which i will, but i like real input)

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Stars Shaper7 votes

Since he is going to be reworked and now he is in a "half-rework state" I don't think you should buy him asap.

Wait for a couple of free rotations and try him.

Karlyr2 votes

Honnestly listen this guy. you might buy him and end up incredibly sad.

The champion right now isn't what you should be looking for.

If you like being a murder machine look into Lissandra. If you are more of the tanky melee type Maokai.

Mordekaiser will make a comeback, but for now wait the rework.

junglerboy162 votes

Right now Rumble is actually the nearest analog to bruiser Morde in the game, and is also pretty strong. He just has more AoE and less single target burst.

Karlyr1 votes

Forgot the bruising route, thanks :p

Takeuchi 171 votes

yea, im just trying to find champs not usually played to kind of increase my pool of choices. I figured morde is kind of an odd one thats not seen all too much so figured there might be some potential there that I havent seen tapped too often. I think what I'll do is just try him out in my PBE account and then add him to my roster in my norm account just to have him and see if his changes will increase his viability.

The Chin3 votes

He's extremely strong... unless you get ganked.

His passive shield and damage output is absolutely ridiculous, but it's balanced out because he has no CC or mobility

He's a good mid laner, top lane is harder for him because it's a longer lane which makes him even easier to gank.

Takeuchi 171 votes

ok so for a mid-lane build would you say its better to go more of a bruiser route then tanky? or just full ap-cannon?

Stars Shaper1 votes

Depends on your top laner/support/jungler. If you already got 2 tanky champions in team go for full damage build, you'll get tanky anyway if you can sustain your shield.

Rush the 1200 spellvamp gun as first item anyway.

Merxamers1 votes

i don't exactly remember how the last kit changes affected his numbers; he used to be better as a glass cannon mid lane. Now, i think he's meant to be more brawly. Early game, you probably want to build item 3145 item 3020 , or if you're against a broken AD like Zed substitute item 3191 for hextech. Since the kit changes, you can probably get away with building a defensive item like Warmogs, Randuins, or Spirit Visage, but if you're significantly ahead you should just build damage.

I've yet to try it out too much, but i imagine that since his shield scales with health now that item 3136 into item 3151 + item 3116 would be pretty strong for him now. The weird thing is, it used to be much better to build resistances rather than health for him (complicated math, but it's true), but since the recent update i don't know :P

Morde isn't weak, he's just not up to date with the current game. He's strong against certain assassins, and people who rely on burst. He's a classic counter to LeBlanc, for example, and i have a lot of success with him against Fizz (it just takes practice to dodge his stuff; start item 1001 + item 2003 ). The only people who really beat him in lane are champions that out-sustain him (Chogath, Volibear, Swain), have absurdly strong early all-ins and high mobility (Riven, Zed), or punish his lack of mobility (Azir, Heimerdinger). As has been the case since the beginning, Morde's biggest counter is jungle ganks, so always keep a supply of wards with you.

To answer your question, you probably want to lean more bruiser than glass cannon now. I did try Morde with Luden's Echo during the PBE testing, and it was absurdly strong on him (basically just added 100 damage to each time i used E). If you don't need Zhonya's, Luden's would probably be a completely valid choice.

Takeuchi 172 votes

awesome thank you. this was rather insightful. I played around with him yesterday in a couple arams and I certainly enjoy his play style and definitely noticed his weaknesses with mobility and kiting. I'll def have to try him out in a fizz or leblanc match up (i usually just take my main man malz for them, but choices are always fun). i didnt get to try ludens on him yet either but i will def give that a go

The Chin1 votes

item 3152 item 3027

AP bruiser does more than enough damage... but I've never tried the glass cannon build maybe it's better :p

Stars Shaper3 votes

item 3027 on a non-mana champion? Really?

Sirsir1 votes

Its still cost efficient at max stacks...

But I think he meant item 3116, which actually is pretty good on him.

Stars Shaper1 votes

I really hope so. Expecially since that item is a must on Morde.

junglerboy162 votes

I think you meant item 3116.

Karlyr2 votes

I hope he meant item 3116

Pandemic Punch1 votes

I have laned against every champion more than once as morde in the top and middle lanes. The only lane he really loses post 6 is against Tryndamere. The reason? Trynd can ult and there is nothing you can do to peel him off of you. Yorick is kind of hard because you have to kill him twice, but once you have hextech revolver and some armor you can kill him twice over and over without much risk.

Dont Smite Me1 votes

I love playing Morde and the recent change was really good for him as he got a little mobility. When i play him i play him Mid mainly or Top ocasionaly. this is what i Build

Starting itemsitem 1054 if they are going to be doing single target damage to you often or item 1052

Core:item 3145 Allways get this pref on first back(then you have a choice betweenitem 3152 anditem 3146 both are viable choices i usually go Wota beacuse its cheaper and 10%cdr but gun blade gives you a bit more ad and life steal for autos so its still good )Next i usually go for item 3157 beacuse it gives me a decent amount of ap and defenceive bonuses(if im up against ap and dont really need it for def bounes item 3089 )

Other items i build:item 3020 item 3135 item 3116

Personaly havent tried item 3285 yet but i feel like it would be a great item on Morde

General tips: So When playing morde try to keep your sheild up not just spamming your skills and have everything on cooldown i personaly Max E then W or q depending on what i want at the time

will add more when i get home

Stephenizgod1 votes

My advice is to not buy Morde. At least not right now, wait until he is reworked or buffed without random compensation nerfs (cuz he needed to be nerfed so bad amirite?........). He is fun if you know how to use him, but he is just in a weak state right now and you probably wont have much fun. I stopped having fun with him after the DFG "compensations", they didnt change him all that much, just enough for me to stop having fun.

Takeuchi 171 votes

I got him for now. I have massive amounts of IP and nothing better to spend it on. i'll likely play him here and there just for fun and get used to him, I'm sure his rework wont be totally life changing like sions (i hope), but otherwise I'm curious to what more changes they'll be bringing to him.

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