Rengar & Khazix Jungle

ForFoxSakes·11/15/2014, 12:52:33 AM·2 votes·4,588 views

Convince me why theyre good in jungle! I jungle A LOT and have found these 2 to be subpar, but at high levels they seem to be picked a lot.

My roster: JarvanIV Strong burst, lots of CC and base tankiness, teamfight control, team buff Darius Very strong invades and heavy damage. Can get lanes and myself snowballed hard early Amumu Good for AOE CC and when magic damage is needed. Requires wombo combo and competent carries to follow up on CC Pantheon Strong executes with low CD, good tower dives, map presence and hard CC Warwick Bruiser sustain tank with hard CC and teamwide buffs with map control on low champs. Very strong ganks & picks post 6 XinZhao Strong early ganks, base tankiness, teamfight control and tower punching power.

All of the above have team buffs, hard CC, AOE damage and/or map presence, so what does Rengar & Khazix have over these guys?

Khazix Rengar have skillshot soft CC that results in failed ganks if missed while WW, Xin, Darius, J4, Amumu give hard CC that's much harder to avoid. -No team buffs -Back line/carry divers, but Xin & J4 can do the same while splitting their team -Can build some tankiness, but all the above mentioned do it better with stronger base stats or abilities to reduce damage taken -Can hard burst someone, but Darius, Xin & Panth can do that as well -Mobility over terrain, J4 & Amumu can do that too -If they're just assassins, I feel like its a wasted pick where Mid or Top can do the same -Ults countered with pink ward -Low utility to the team

6 Comments

Variks the Loyal11/15/2014, 1:08:06 AM3 votes

Learn to land your skill shots, and Reng/Kha ganks are unstoppable.

They both offer different utility. Kha'Zix offers more than just pure assassinations - His evolved W is good for poke or for helping a disengage. His leap resets make him really safe in teamfights. And he instakills anyone who gets caught out because of isolation.

Rengar can circumvent wards during the laning phase and gank up the lane. Not many junglers can do that. He has a lot of teamfight survivability with his W, and deals a shitton of damage. Defeated by pink ward? He's not if he doesn't engage first, if he follows up on a Nami wave or something similar, he'll instaburst someone.

And both are really good at stealing/securing objectives. Not as good as Nunu or Cho'gath, but Empowered Savagery+Savagery+Smite has stolen many Barons for me.

Featherztorm11/15/2014, 1:32:09 AM2 votes

If Rengar is defeated by a pink ward, then any jungler you mentioned is defeated by a green ward. Because logic!

Junkο11/15/2014, 8:46:38 AM2 votes

Your reasons for Kha and Rengar being bad are really bad. You list things that other junglers do better at something, for example Darius better at damage, Xin better at getting into back like and Amumu being able to jump over terrain, but can any of these do ALL OF THESE?

ValyrianBlade11/15/2014, 1:03:50 AM1 votes

Rengar and kha'zix are picked for early strength. They can both gank a Lane and score a kill quite easily compared to other junglers.

None of the junglers you've listed have anywhere close to the pre6 gank potential that these 2 have. Even post 6 I'd argue these 2 have stronger ganks and faster jungle clears.

With the s5 jungle about to come out though, it doesn't really matter.