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When to pick singed?

LoL Ergo Urgot··1 votes·2,864 views

I am not sure when to play him. I just faced a malph and I was out tanked and out damaged. I also have troubles playing him against anyone ranged. I get kited for days. What niche does he fill?

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Oddysseas2 votes

When you play against people you hate and that will 100% hate you back. Most stupid champion ever made even teemo seems to have more purpose

GundayMonday1 votes

He's amazing against champions with poor waveclear (farm behind their tower). He's amazing against weak early game junglers (farm behind two towers, outplay the enemy jungler). He's amazing against teams that rely on speed to fight (build item 3116 ) He's amazing against teams that want to team fight as 5 (farm two waves in their base, run away laughing if they send >2 for you).

Recommend watching sirchez and invertedcomposer for solid singed play. DruidDroid too!

fdissht1 votes

Melee champions such as jax, he wrecks jax because he relies on attacking constantly to proc his ult passive and attackspeed passive; except all you do is herp derp run around. You also scale harder than champions such as riven, just play safe till level 4-6 (depending on champion) and then pop ult whenever you get chased, or even just for the health/mana regen

Late game, if you have RoA, frozen heart, etc; all you got to do is pop your ult, ghost, and then proceed to poison the carries. Sure you may get kited (with move speed bonus from ult, ghost, and mega adhesive it'd be hard) but not only will they have to use alot to get away but the carries can't hurt your teammates while running away from you.

Ltank1291 votes

Hello! I don't play singed as much as some other champs, but as far as top laners go, he is one of my favorites.

Singed works against most melee brawlers. Darius, Garen, and the like. He doesn't work well against ranged top laners, Teemo, Karma and such, and he is managable but not a good pick if your opponent has a gapcloser of some sort. Also consider your enemies abilities. Cho gives me some problems, simply because his Q, W, and E give him more range than I can manage.

Never play him against a Rumble or a Kennen - Those two Yordles will destroy even the best Singed.

When playing singed your goal is to either get the enemy to chase you or toss them behind you and run in front of them.

Singed works best when farming. Once you get Tear and Catalyst, you can just farm. He is really good at clearing minion waves.

In teamfights, your goal is to isolate and weave around people with your q. Your auto's don't help much. Your job is to find someone out of position, ult, charge in, e them into your team and let the actual damage dealers do the rest. Just create streams of poison. You are a tank, plain and simple. Singed is perfect with teams centered around kiting, so a team with Lux, Ashe, Kalista will all work very well. All in teams are not so much his game.

I have had some success split pushing as him. Ghost + R makes for insane gettaways.

MTempty1 votes

just a small note. Tear+Catalyst is an extreme build that is incredibly inefficient. It delays your Roa, it delays your seraph, and it makes you into a giant sack of stats. Sure it looks good on paper, but then you realize its like 40 minute in and you JUST got your first resistance item, leaving you open to the opposite damage type. also makes it hard to take advantage of the extremely powerful rylai+liandr combo that is essential to playing Singed. To answer op, if you are looking at the top lane pick alone , you aren't being thorough. Yes, Rumble, Kennen, Gnar, many mid laners, vayne, and even vlad are a pain in the dickhole to lane against. But Playing safe enough (0/1 (10 cs down or 20 cs down+ but 0/0) allows you to hit your midgame powerspike where you are going to eat people alive without a tough time. Besides, almost nobody plays Jax,Trynd, and fiora anymore. Its a holy blessing when you DO get to lane against them. people to watch out for in other lanes include: Morgana/Janna. These two make it very difficult for you to make plays unless you pick Flash(Viable on Singed btw. No counterplay to flash fling and nobody expects it). Malzahar- I know it sounds odd but Malz can roam on his own mid opponent then come in to ult you. You have no response, no mr, and oftentimes, no way to live against his tank shredding kit.
Kallista- This champion is cancer. If you can flash-fling, great, she dies... probably??? If not, you get chunked to death with almost no chance to catch her outside of her owner dying from the radiation she emits. Kassadin/leblanc.- Um... see Kallista... Kass gets the added bonus of getting a hexdrinker everytime he decides to trade with you. Hate him with a burning passion. Leblanc is just too damn difficult to catch. Just give up. Your only hope is to play around her and have enough of an impact before she melts your team. Best of luck OP.

Leti the Yeti1 votes

how the hell does singe get kited when he's the one running away? I think you fked up big time

also if you suspect that their cc is way too reliable in hindering your escapes, you probably don't wanna singe

LoL Ergo Urgot1 votes

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how the hell does singe get kited when he's the one running away? I think you fked up big time

also if you suspect that their cc is way too reliable in hindering your escapes, you probably don't wanna singe

Poor choice of words on my part. I meant to say if I walk up to farm, I get hit by a quinn, teemo, ect, auto attack. And there's not much I can do there (it feels like).

Leti the Yeti1 votes

you gotta somehow out clear them so you can proxy farm they cant leave their turret to harrass you while doing it and IF they DO leave their turret, thats how you know that you better start running the fk away cuz a gank is coming

LoL Ergo Urgot1 votes

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you gotta somehow out clear them so you can proxy farm they cant leave their turret to harrass you while doing it and IF they DO leave their turret, thats how you know that you better start running the fk away cuz a gank is coming

I couldn't even walk up to my minion wave to farm because lee sin would just chunk my hp. Also, I am in silver elo, so if I proxy farm it would be wasted. From what I gathered, one proxy farms to force the top laner and jungler (mid possibly too) to deal with you while your team takes advantage of missing opponents from other areas. But in my elo that would be wasted and require far too much communication to be viable. I love to play Urgot top, and he just does way more damage, and can farm way more safer. Plus he isn't as niche.

LoL Ergo Urgot1 votes

Yeah, I played a couple of games and getting bullied in lane isn't really fun. He just seems like a champ you play if you don't care if you win or loose. Thanks for the posts though.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Took a cursory look through a few of your recent Singed games and I have some advice.

Singed doesn't have much in the way of utility compared to most tanks, so you need to be able to do damage to be a threat. This doesn't mean that you can skip durability, but you should probably focus on defensive AP items and tank items. [i.e. Rod of Ages > Righteous Glory]

Rod of Ages, Seraph's Embrace, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Thornmail, and Abyssal Scepter are all good choices for offensive items. Void Staff is pretty situation, but can work if you are already tanky enough.

Randuin's Omen, Frozen Heart, and Banshee's Veil are strong defensive items on him.

I would only recommend building one mana item on Singed. While his passive is a nice bonus, it's typically more effective to just purchase health and you don't need much mana after a certain point. I'd recommend either building Tear of the Goddess -> Rylai's Crystal Scepter or building Rod of Ages first in most games.

I would not recommend building Spell Vamp on Singed at any point. Singed only has two damage abilities, one of which is AoE and has reduced healing.


If it helps, here's my typical setup.

Masteries: 9/21/0 or 0/21/9 Runes: MS or AP Quints, Armor Seals, MR Glyphs, Hybrid Pen Marks Starting Items: Flask + 4 Health Potions Typical Build: Mercury Treads, Rod of Ages, Rylai's Crystal Scepter,, Thornmail, Liandry's Torment, Banshee's Veil

LoL Ergo Urgot1 votes

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Took a cursory look through a few of your recent Singed games and I have some advice.

Singed doesn't have much in the way of utility compared to most tanks, so you need to be able to do damage to be a threat. This doesn't mean that you can skip durability, but you should probably focus on defensive AP items and tank items. [i.e. Rod of Ages > Righteous Glory]

Rod of Ages, Seraph's Embrace, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Thornmail, and Abyssal Scepter are all good choices for offensive items. Void Staff is pretty situation, but can work if you are already tanky enough.

Randuin's Omen, Frozen Heart, and Banshee's Veil are strong defensive items on him.

I would only recommend building one mana item on Singed. While his passive is a nice bonus, it's typically more effective to just purchase health and you don't need much mana after a certain point. I'd recommend either building Tear of the Goddess -> Rylai's Crystal Scepter or building Rod of Ages first in most games.

I would not recommend building Spell Vamp on Singed at any point. Singed only has two damage abilities, one of which is AoE and has reduced healing.


If it helps, here's my typical setup.

Masteries: 9/21/0 or 0/21/9 Runes: MS or AP Quints, Armor Seals, MR Glyphs, Hybrid Pen Marks Starting Items: Flask + 4 Health Potions Typical Build: Mercury Treads, Rod of Ages, Rylai's Crystal Scepter,, Thornmail, Liandry's Torment, Banshee's Veil

I will try it out. Ty

themachamp21 votes

Just proxy waves vs ranged and make them chase you.

LoL Ergo Urgot1 votes

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Just proxy waves vs ranged and make them chase you.

Yeah, but I am in silver. My teammates won't be able to capitalize on it even if I do. They will just think I am feeding.

themachamp21 votes

its solo Q....fk your teammates. Its not your job to teach them basic league knowledge. ;)

DomingoDuck1 votes

A lot of people get demoralized while playing singed and that's understandable. He is probably the absolute worst early game champion. If you choose him, you will probably get dumped on levels 1-5 so its normal to back twice, even 3 times if you have to. Singed is a monster late game champion so you need to understand that you are investing in the late game. So to answer your question, don't necessarily constrict yourself to champions that are melee and don't have a gap closer (reading other comments). You could destroy half those champions if you are patient (of course there are some opponents you will never win against simply because they won't let you survive your early game - Vayne). Your job, when you reach late game, is to simply take a nice frolic over to the adc and flip them. Even if it's a terrible flip, you're not worried because you either flipped them too far from the fight (in which case they'll probably start attacking you - which, with 200 armor is great for your team) or you flipped them out of position (basically, they gonna die). All in all, you shouldn't feel frustrated playing singed, the person you are playing against should be.

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