If I get Black Cleaver is it still worth to get Trinity force?

Thresh 2 Fresh·5/4/2015, 7:30:59 PM·2 votes·10,387 views

Definitely two different items, but I can't help feel like getting another item with rage passive could be wasteful. Especially since trinity gives only a small amount of mixed stats. Now obviously the thing I want most from Is the spellblade passive. I am still pretty new so I am wondering if both items on one build path is worth or not.

The champions In question for this build would be evelynn because she does well with the armor shred and cdr. Also vi and a few other jungle champs. Since Is pretty good on kha zix i was considering putting trinity on him too

5 Comments

Drunk Rummate5/4/2015, 7:37:33 PM2 votes

Wouldn't really recommend both cleaver and trinity personally.

Trinity is an early-mid game rush item that you pick up to snowball with, for the most part.

Cleaver is more of a mid-late game team fight item that you pick up as the front liner for your team so that your ADC does relevant damage vs armor stacking tanks, especially pre-LW. But if you have trinity then you probably aren't tanky enough to apply stacks of cleaver with enough consistency to justify building it.

Personally wouldn't even recommend either of these items on Kha as you've suggested. I find he's much better off with Hydra + brutalizer + Last Whisper for the burst damage. He likes to get in, kill, and get out as quickly as possible and Cleaver isn't really that good for the job. Trinity is okay if you're super far ahead I guess, but Hydra still generally better IMO. He doesn't need the attack speed or the rage passive, and he doesn't really have mana issues after his first couple clears.

Evelynn builds are interesting because she does well with CDR. Cinderhulk -> Cleaver probably wouldn't be bad on her, but I've always been more of a Magus -> Trinity guy on her. Another case where I wouldn't recommend getting both though.

ZergReap5/4/2015, 7:52:53 PM2 votes

I tried both on Irelia , but meh.. if you think about it most champs that go item 3078 would rather get a item 3153 instead.

Tribbles Foxfolk5/6/2015, 3:20:55 AM1 votes

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Definitely two different items, but I can't help feel like getting another item with rage passive could be wasteful. Especially since trinity gives only a small amount of mixed stats. Now obviously the thing I want most from Is the spellblade passive. I am still pretty new so I am wondering if both items on one build path is worth or not.

The champions In question for this build would be evelynn because she does well with the armor shred and cdr. Also vi and a few other jungle champs. Since Is pretty good on kha zix i was considering putting trinity on him too

Meh...I'd say either choose one or the other, not both. Currently, Black Cleaver is quite strong on champs like Vi and Kha'Zix while Tri-Force sits as a situational "Little bit of all worlds, but nothing excellent" item. I would absolutely build BC as a first item on bruiser champs like Vi and Panth in lane, and second item after Cinderhulk/Warrior in the jungle.

AcidDrops5/6/2015, 2:25:22 PM1 votes

nah not really, i think you should either go one or the other tbh. Especially kha zix I think the ap from tf on him is kind of a waste considering how expensive tf is.