I'm here help you guys with my knowledge and wisdom of the game. Go ahead and post any questions you have about the game whether its about advice in playing ranked or playing a match-up. Ill try my best to answer it as detailed as possible. I also stream but I won't post it unless people ask.
What Is Smite1 votesIf two Sion were to leave their base fountain's ad one left at 12:00 into the game while the other leaves the fountain at 12:10 when will the two Sion's collide?
AwesomeChad1 votesThey won't collide. Their range doesn't allow it.
What Is Smite1 votesActually, they haven't gotten their ults yet XD they have just left the base fountain meaning they have not even been to lane, well jokes aside my actual question is: Which Champions could work as AD supports?
AwesomeChad1 voteslol not true. By 12 minutes into the game, players should be around lvl 9 so they will their ults leveled.
Anyways, regarding your question: All current standard supports have strong utility abilities (whether its a heal, shield, CC, or some ability that protects their allies). Coincidentally, these champions all deal magic dmg and have some type of ap scaling in their kit. I think by champion design, most standard supports are designed to be high utility magic dmg dealers. If we dig a little deeper into the AP vs. AD champion comparison, you might notice that majority of magic dmg dealers have higher utility and base ability dmg in their kits. In contrast, AD champions should have slightly lower base dmg on their abilities but are compensated by the fact that their autoattacks deal more dmg due to their item builds. This is probably the main reason why we don't see AD supports.
DISCLAIMER: What I'm about to mention regard AD "support" champions is pure theory crafting.
There is an extremely small pool of AD champions (maybe 1-3 at most) that would be "okay" as supports but it takes alot of skill to properly execute.
these are AD champions i'd consider potential supports: Lee sin, GP, Gnar,
What Is Smite1 votesWhat about Yorick as a Support? His utility to me lies in his early poking and zoning potential along with how well he can trade in lane against both the enemy ADC and support, post-6 his strength's to me are nice to have for pick comps against enemies who don't have their flash up or can't get far enough away from his Omen of Decay, his ultimate can give your carries another chance to live either after their GA is popped or before they get GA, if they are not focused down a 2nd time.
AwesomeChad1 votesSo if you look at my "suggested AD supports" , these champions have very controlled abilities where you can limit the amount of enemies you hit. If you pick yorrick, he presents the issue of not being able to control his ghosts. His ghosts will hard push the minion wave which can easily screw up an ADC's ability to CS. This can also force you to overextended to CS since the wave is going to be positioned closer to the enemy turret. On top of that, its hard to pressure the enemy under their turret. If you dmg them under their turret, you will receive turret aggro and are vulnerable to getting CC'd to take more turret aggro. He really doesn't provide any good form of peel and can't really protect you. If you're going this far to pick a champion that has a "revive" ult, you should go zilean instead. If you get ganked, this lane is easily screwed over.
NachoWagon1 votesHey man, I think its awesome people in high elo want to help us noobs. Im silver 5, Im aware Its my fault in stuck in low silver. My only problem is I feel like im doing everything right, any chance I could add you and we could play a game or two together? Maybe you could give me some pointers or tips? Thanks man.
AwesomeChad1 votesHmm, I don't think I have room on my friends list otherwise i'd add you. Also, if you're wondering whether I'd be able to play a game with you while giving you advice, that's really tough for me to do and I probably can't help you as much. Here are my key strengths as a "coach":
NachoWagon1 votesSpectating or rewatching a game I play would be good, Does it matter which role I play? Im usually Supp/Jg
AwesomeChad1 votesNo it doesn't matter but I prefer watching and giving commentary on a game where you're playing a champion/role you want to improve on.
NachoWagon1 votesThis sounds good man, but how would you watch this replay? I will most likely play a game in ranked because thats where I need to improve.
AwesomeChad1 votesOkay so you have a couple of options:
You play a ranked game and i'll spectate the "live" version on the league client
You download League Summoner Information (LSI) which is a replay program. You keep that program running in the background and it'll automatically record any games you play. Each recording will have a "code" which you can send to me and I can use that code to download the replay. This is a better option because we don't have be online at the same time and you can have me analyze a replay anytime you want.
With any of these options, I will stream me analyzing the replay. Then, I'll post this analysis as a video-on-demand either on twitch or youtube (depends on if you're unable to watch it on twitch, then I post it on youtube so you can control the resolution).
NachoWagon1 votesIll go for the LSI, assuming you already have it. Ill get back to you on here when I have the game I'd like u to analyze. Thanks again for your help man, I really appreciate it.
AwesomeChad1 votesyep I already have it. Just post the replay code here whenever and I'll let you know when I'll do it. No need to rush.
NachoWagon1 votesGot the program installed and got 2 support games as leona, both losses. Not sure how to send u the replays though. :/
AwesomeChad1 votesEDIT: I just updated my LSI client and it seems they disabled sharing replays. I guess we cant do it until they fix it.
NachoWagon1 votesI see there's a feature where u can enter a name and spectate the game. We can set a time and I can play a game. Im on Eastern Time. I understand if u dont want to. This just turned into alot of work for something so simple lol. Thank you for trying to help either way man, Really appreciate it.
AwesomeChad1 votesI'm on pacific time zone and free on the weekends starting on fridays. We can setup something.
Randomonium1 votesI think one of the biggest problem I struggle with in the jungle is the balance between farming and ganking. When I watch high level streams of junglers and LCS they gank a lot less then I do but when I try to play like that I get raged at because I'm not constantly ganking. How often should junglers gank? What farm should they try to achieve at the 5, 10, and 20 minute mark?
AwesomeChad1 votesHow often you should gank will depend on your champion. Early-mid game champions tend to gank more often like lee sin/jarvan/pantheon/wukong. If you have alot of dmg and built-in gap closers/hard CC, you can gank more often pre-6. Junglers that don't have that pre-6 generally try to farm until 6. I personally do not keep track of farm for junglers because it will vary depending on alot of factors like: 1.How often you gank 2. How fast do you clear your jungle 3. How efficient is your jungle clearing (How much time are you spending moving your character through the map vs. time spent clearing a camp)
Your main focus as a jungler should be to constantly check the minimap for opportunities to gank or take an objective. Are there any lanes where the enemy is extremely low or overextended? Could you potentially take a dragon/baron/turret after ganking that lane? Maybe you want to invade the enemy jungle to steal a buff/jungle camp or try to kill the enemy jungler if you know you're stronger.
A more direct answer to your question is I think farming is fine but you need to pay attention to your minimap for opportunities and gank when they are present.
AsphodelNext1 votesWhy are ranged junglers always at the edge of viability or unviable? We see Fiddle jungle a bit in lower elo, but things like TF jungle or Karthus jungle are limited to "that one time the pros played it..." and never really make it into mainstream.
Being ranged should give you an advantage in ganks, since you can cut people off much more effectively or land surprise ranged damage from the bush that can get your laner the kill. As opposed to a melee jungler, who has to enter the lane, use a gap closer, and then use CC, only to risk having the person just CC you and run past you to their turret(I do this all the time as Cho'gath, WQ run for safety and I normally make it if I started at full hp)
Are there any currently viable non-Fiddle ranged junglers I don't know about? Not counting Nidalee, since she tends to spend a lot of her jungle clear in cougar form.
I played a bunch of Jinx jungle when she got first released, but the AS nerfs on early game lane Jinx pretty much killed what little clear she had. I've tried again with things like Sated Devourer Vayne jungle, but there's been some sort of leashing change and I can't quite get the spot to stand in right anymore.
AwesomeChad1 votesI believe most ranged junglers are "unviable" because its easy to counter them with a simple invade and they tend to struggle with clearing the jungle before they upgrade their hunter's machete. Also, most ranged junglers lose in early game 1v1s/duels. Melee champions usually have higher base stats than ranged champions do so that gives them an edge in clearing the jungle. Most ranged champs have bad early game wave clear or are extremely squishy. Also, the current list of "viable" junglers has champions with one or more of these redeeming qualities:
I don't know of any "viable" ranged junglers. The only one that may fit your description is Kayle. You might consider Twitch jungle which has strong ganking potential but again, he suffers from the weaknesses of the early jungling phase.
Regarding vayne jungle, i highly recommend starting W and taking E at lvl 2. Condemn the big jungle camp into the wall and just kite around it (without resetting the camp). This greatly increases vayne's sustain in the jungle. Also, her early game 1v1 is pretty decent if you're wondering about how she'll do against invades.
Darkshade241 votesI play Wukong a lot, he's my main, and I wonder when I should be ganking. One youtuber, C00l story joe, a Master player and #1 best Wukong NA often goes for level 2 ganks bot, but that's a little difficult to pull off in Silver where I am, since it's hard to communicate when to use cc, etc. So should I stay away from level 2 ganks? Or when the situation is right for it(Please explain when that is!) should I go for it? Thank you for your time :)
AwesomeChad1 votesAlright so the major difference between ganking for higher elo vs. lower elo is that at higher elos, your teammates will "follow up"/ offer immediate assistance once they have knowledge that you'll gank. This naturally makes it easier for junglers to coordinate better ganks.
There is always some risk when you go for a level 2 gank. If you want to do a level 2 gank, there is a series of questions you need to ask yourself:
If i gank this lane, will I be able to gain anything out of it? Can you burn the enemy's summoner spells or kill them? Are you able to force the enemy out of the lane so you and your ally can quickly push the minion into the enemy turret and deny cs? Will this gank help your ally win lane?
Do your allies have any built-in hard CCs like a stun/snare to increase the chances of #1 happening? Having a hard CC means you have more time to deal dmg to the enemy when they're immobile.
How low is the enemy's health at the time of your gank? If the enemy is half health or less, this increases the chances of a successful gank.
Are your allies close enough to the enemy that they're able to follow up on your gank? Remember you're only level 2 so that means you only have 2 abilities ready to cast. You need the participation of your allies to get more out of your gank.
How far away from the enemy turret is the enemy? Don't bother ganking the lane if the enemy is right under their turret or are fairly close enough that they can run away. Do not attempt a lvl 2 tower dive unless you're experienced with calculating turret dmg and know you will survive.
These are important questions to take into consideration when you're doing a level 2 gank. I would recommend not doing it unless you started red buff as your first camp (this is crucial as the buff applies extra dmg and a mini slow) and you should gank the closest lanes. Otherwise, i'd recommend clearing out both buffs before you gank. Hitting level 6 is a huge power spike in wukong's ganks. Wukong has alot of power in early-mid game so i encourage you to try to gank more often during that time.
A direct answer to your question would be going for for a level 2 gank is situational. Always pay close attention to your minimap to check each lane. Doing this will greatly improve your ganking times if you're deciding whether or not to gank a lane or do something else.