Do you think a 40ping difference is significant?

Space Bum·Mar 28, 2015·3 votes·1,096 views

Maybe I'm getting worse at this game. I moved about a year ago and don't think I have been playing as consistently since then. I averaged 80ping before the move and now I average 120.

12 Comments

AMYS GRAVEMar 30, 20152 votes

80 to 120 is a big difference, 360 to 400 less so. that said as long as you aren't experiencing packet loss as well it is manageable.

Kratos263Mar 28, 20151 votes

Just 120 is a little different, not very significant once you get used to it. However, if you get just a 40 ping increase for 2 sec regularly during the games, now that's very annoying and hard to deal with.

RiotRiot Bearly LeahMar 28, 20151 votes

I'd say it does. It definitely makes a bigger deal if you're jumping 80 - 120. However I would say that playing at 120 ping is actually noticeably more annoying than playing at 80 ping

Yordle GodMar 29, 20151 votes

120 ping makes mechanical stuff harder.

GoldenMeanMar 29, 20151 votes

It's massive and precludes you from playing certain champs. If you badly want to improve your play, move closer to the servers.

Acktual ApeMar 29, 20151 votes

I have about the same issue. The place I live I have about 125 ping. never lower. I'm used to it so its alright by now. You usually dont notice it, but sometimes it happens to me that that slight ping difference makes a command go out slower and makes the difference between life and death. It isnt often, but annoying a few times. Don't worry too much about it, but 80 ping is WAY better if you can get it.

Hasztalan2Mar 29, 20151 votes

Above 100 where shit is getting real and u can expect a 0.5-1 sec delay. Altough it is manageable and playable until around 180~ish. THat's where the 2 second comes in with close to 0 playability.

NazgulStigMar 30, 20152 votes

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Above 100 where shit is getting real and u can expect a 0.5-1 sec delay. Altough it is manageable and playable until around 180~ish. THat's where the 2 second comes in with close to 0 playability.

So, according to you I shouldn't be able to play at all. I am mostly playing with ping between 250 and 300 and still manage to outplay many people who has less than 100 ping. Ping matters a lot but once when you get used to the high ping its not an issue as most abilities have cast times and travel times which means you can still dodge them. It is a bit irritating to get a spike in between a game but over all a high ping is not irritating as long as it stays below 400ms. Having a ping above 180 doesn't mean there is a 2 sec delay, 180ms ping means your request takes 180ms to reach the server and 180ms after that for you to see the effect which means a total of 360ms but your opponent on 50ms ping will only see a delay of 180+50= 230 for the same action by you. This delay isn't that high and most people won't even notice that. Things go crazy beyond 400ms as it is very close to 1sec delay(both direction combined) and you will notice that.

Hasztalan2Mar 31, 20151 votes

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So, according to you I shouldn't be able to play at all. I am mostly playing with ping between 250 and 300 and still manage to outplay many people who has less than 100 ping. Ping matters a lot but once when you get used to the high ping its not an issue as most abilities have cast times and travel times which means you can still dodge them. It is a bit irritating to get a spike in between a game but over all a high ping is not irritating as long as it stays below 400ms. Having a ping above 180 doesn't mean there is a 2 sec delay, 180ms ping means your request takes 180ms to reach the server and 180ms after that for you to see the effect which means a total of 360ms but your opponent on 50ms ping will only see a delay of 180+50= 230 for the same action by you. This delay isn't that high and most people won't even notice that. Things go crazy beyond 400ms as it is very close to 1sec delay(both direction combined) and you will notice that.

No offense but u are an unranked player who mostly plays normal games. There you can play with 400+ pings nobody gives a fuck. But when u play with ppl who actually knows how to play that 50 ping difference alraedy matters a LOT.

Besides what i wrote in my previous comment is not a false alarm, it is a universal state which applies to ALL multiplayer games for nearly 20 years (doom2 rox) now. And yes ppl notice it. U are just stupid my friend.

NazgulStigMar 31, 20152 votes

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No offense but u are an unranked player who mostly plays normal games. There you can play with 400+ pings nobody gives a fuck. But when u play with ppl who actually knows how to play that 50 ping difference alraedy matters a LOT.

Besides what i wrote in my previous comment is not a false alarm, it is a universal state which applies to ALL multiplayer games for nearly 20 years (doom2 rox) now. And yes ppl notice it. U are just stupid my friend.

These are your words: "Above 100 where shit is getting real and u can expect a 0.5-1 sec delay" "playable until around 180~ish. THat's where the 2 second comes in with close to 0 playability." Both are technically and mathematically wrong in every way possible. So, I am not the one who is stupid, may be you missed what was taught in school because you were busy calling others stupid and offending them.
PS: This is not my only account, I have 3 others which are for different purposes, this current account is only for ARAM which you can see if you check my match history, so your assumption that I play only normal is also wrong.

Hasztalan2Apr 1, 20151 votes

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These are your words: "Above 100 where shit is getting real and u can expect a 0.5-1 sec delay" "playable until around 180~ish. THat's where the 2 second comes in with close to 0 playability." Both are technically and mathematically wrong in every way possible. So, I am not the one who is stupid, may be you missed what was taught in school because you were busy calling others stupid and offending them.
PS: This is not my only account, I have 3 others which are for different purposes, this current account is only for ARAM which you can see if you check my match history, so your assumption that I play only normal is also wrong.

PLaying above 180 puts you in a severe disadvantage and cannot be called neither playable nor stable. But if you can show me a game which has multiplayer and is playable with 200-400 ping (except games like Heroes) I'll send a thousand bucks since tehre isn't any out there. No matter what type of game you play after 180-200 it becomes heavily shit. You might get used to200 ping if you play steadily on that latency but it still puts you heavily in disadvantage.

Also your first statement that it's playable until it doesn't go higher than 400. Like wtf dude at 300 ping you can play at max 3 full tiers below your average skill.

NazgulStigApr 1, 20151 votes

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PLaying above 180 puts you in a severe disadvantage and cannot be called neither playable nor stable. But if you can show me a game which has multiplayer and is playable with 200-400 ping (except games like Heroes) I'll send a thousand bucks since tehre isn't any out there. No matter what type of game you play after 180-200 it becomes heavily shit. You might get used to200 ping if you play steadily on that latency but it still puts you heavily in disadvantage.

Also your first statement that it's playable until it doesn't go higher than 400. Like wtf dude at 300 ping you can play at max 3 full tiers below your average skill.

Let me make it extremely simple for you because I understand you don't know much about networking. Assuming 2 people are playing and one is on 200ms ping and the other is on 50ms ping With 200ms ping(Round trip time, which is what LoL client shows you): You(200ms) hit Q: The request takes 100ms to reach the server and 100ms more for you to see the action(Full round trip). The 50ms guy has already seen the action before you did because it took only 25ms for him to see your action. He(50ms guy) hits Q: The request takes 25ms to reach the server and 25ms for him to see the action but it takes 100ms for you to see his action. So, effectively you have a disadvantage of only 75ms which is shorter than your eye blink duration. This effectively means that you are not going to notice the delay at 200ms ping if your connection is stable at that ping. I know why you are arguing with me on this because while you were playing you saw 200ms ping and found it unplayable, the reason behind this is you are used to the 50ms ping and when you suddenly get a spike you will notice it, 50 to 200 ping spike is irritating as hell but a 50-60 isn't. Same is the case with 200ms ping, if you get a ping spike from 200 to 250 or above you will notice the delay. A packet loss is even worse as you will miss an entire packet which is crucial to maintain the flow of the game. Just for your information: Ranked games are not professional games(at least B, S, G, etc. are not), there this ping will not matter as your skills and reflexes aren't fine tuned to utilize a 75ms disadvantage. I have proven technically that it not at all an issue to play with this ping and if you still want to know accounts which are above your rank I am happy to tell you them including mine and all of them are played with around 250ms ping because of my location.