That Feeling When You Are Playing AD Malz...

Space Bum·Mar 25, 2015·119 votes·8,153 views

And your opponent returns from first back with a MR item http://i.imgur.com/KO8gyi2.gif

91 Comments

Yash GautamMar 25, 201519 votes

Doctor what?

rinsujoMar 25, 201532 votes

No, he's on second. We're talking about first.

junglerboy16Mar 25, 20155 votes

He's got the scarf, so this one's a homerun!

TheTyeGuyMar 26, 20151 votes

I'm worried to comment a witty response, but then turn out that I've missed an inside joke.

FreljordanMar 26, 20157 votes

whos on first whats on second. You've never heard that?

junglerboy16Mar 26, 20153 votes

Like lasergazer said, it is an old joke, but mine had a double meaning because this is the 4th Doctor and 4th base is a homerun, while also pointing out that that scarf is just fantastic.

Vellich0rMar 26, 20152 votes

gotta love celery

EndlessSorcererMar 25, 20157 votes

Getting a single MR item against AD Malzahar is still a good idea since his abilities all have high base damages. If you get item 3155 , item 3211 , item 3111 , or item 3140 you are typically fine for most of the laning phase and they all have nice bonuses that the champions can take advantage of.

It's not a good idea to build more MR after that unless you team has other magic damage threats, but a mid-tier MR item early is a worthwhile purchase in this matchup.

Space BumMar 25, 20151 votes

item 3155 is the main one I love seeing them buy and the most common for top lane vs ap. That passive pops but the damage just keeps coming!

EndlessSorcererMar 25, 20153 votes

Yeah. It can work for a bit more all-in potential and damage, but Quicksilver Sash is a much better choice. Even if it doesn't give you damage it removes suppression (even if it doesn't stop Nether Grasp's damage) so they can get off Null Zone, it removes Malefic Visions, removes the Call of the Void's silence, and removes Ignite.

After that they can just build normally. Even if Quicksilver isn't an efficient rush item in most cases, it removes so many of Malzahar's abilities that it can occasionally be worthwhile.

Though, if they rush QSS you can just laneswap with your midlaner since your opponent just wasted 1250G to specifically counter you.

Space BumMar 25, 20152 votes

I wouldn't lane swap because they still invested in an item that does not mitigate main source of damage basically making it easier to zone them because they sacrificed lane pressure to by that item.

hatinblacksyeaMar 26, 20152 votes

you had to ruin the fun

EndlessSorcererMar 26, 20152 votes

We all have our callings in life. This is mine.

ArdondMar 25, 20156 votes

you know what's even better? AD Malz on urf when you take the 2 nexus towers at 10 mins.

VallantMar 26, 20155 votes

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/master-1-ad-jungle-malzahar-the-voids-legion-s5-394091#

You're welcome.

Deep Terror NamiMar 25, 20154 votes

True. The one time I played AD Malz (in top), Jax started building a item 3155 , later complaining about my minion and demanding nerfs XD

InsaneSamuraiMar 26, 20153 votes

How?

No really, how?

Not how does AD Malz work... I know it's quite awesome. How do you play this without every entitled ragekid on the team throwing and cussing at you the entire game?

AbrahamBaconhamMar 26, 20151 votes

Teambuilder.

VerandureMar 26, 20152 votes

You get it there, too.

The Red GoatApr 27, 20151 votes

I've gone into Teambuilder with myself as ADC Soraka and my support as Aatrox.

This is that game.

This is the game that followed right afterwards.

Not once was I or Aatrox questioned on why we were playing these champs in bot lane. They just accepted the fact that we were awesome and went with it.

Smart KittyMar 26, 20153 votes

Your username makes the JPEG all the more disturbing.

Space BumMar 26, 20153 votes

If I said you had a nice body, would you let me wear your skin like a rain coat?

I think I messed that up....

Blue Moon WolfMar 28, 20153 votes

https://sadderbutwiser.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/captain_america_i_understand_that_reference.png?w=584&h=423

DonalMar 25, 20151 votes

I've never tried AD Malzahar, could I get a recommended build to try out? :o

redniwediSMar 25, 20151 votes

You want pure damage on him. The reason it works is because of the minions, which are not effected by crit or attack speed. Combine high AD with CDR for multiple minions at once and whoever is unlucky enough to be ulted by you is a almost assuredly dead.

junglerboy16Mar 25, 20152 votes

Particularly because after a few seconds they deal 50% increased damage.

SkiasMar 26, 20151 votes

QSS removes his ult and visions. Minion loses control and malz dies because he's immobile.

Auz the RipperMar 26, 20151 votes

QSS only removes the supression part His ult keeps happening and the little dudes keep their focus until you're out of range, it ends, or Malz stops channeling

SkiasMar 27, 20151 votes

actually, it does remove visions.

Auz the RipperMar 27, 20151 votes

I never said it didn't, because it totally does. I'm just saying that QSS doesn't break his ult's tether and thus the little dudes will keep wailing on you until that breaks

LeeDarkMar 26, 20153 votes

Not pure damage. A tankier build with high CDR and Armor pen is better, honestly. Nobody is going to focus down your voidlings, so surviving while they just beat on someone is good. He's immobile, so being able to tank some inevitable damage is important.

Space BumMar 25, 201511 votes

Core item 3004 item 3508 After that anything is good

Just remember voidlings scale with ad and armor pen

WheatloafMar 25, 20158 votes

If it has AD, CDR, mana, or armor pen, you want it. Just remember your Voidlings need professional help and daily ADHD meds.

CarniverousMar 26, 20153 votes

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Core After that anything is good

Just remember voidlings scale with ad and armor pen

I agree with item 3042 , and have seen people do okay with item 3508 But I find very, very offten that I dont get to use Auto attacks that much in bigger team fights. When you get to the point you can carry, you take, and horde blue buffs. IT IS YOUR VOIDFORSAKENRIGHTTOHAVEIT.

It feels good to see another AD Malz out there, and bag on AP Malz's for not being AD. ;P I'm glad you have fun with this. I know people some people like AD Malz in the jungle but I have the best time in lane with him. He is underestimated, and his dueling is the best there is. And I will say it isn't the day I don't win a duel.

If you are ahead,a nd ahead fast, do not hesitate to get an Angels. When they focus you and you got 3-2 voidlings out already, you just sit and stare at a penta kill as you revive and your E was bouncing the whole time. Typically I'd have a frozen mallet but this game, prolonged teamfights happened, and I needed the regen. I hope you always take summoner 3 , because the true Key is being able to kite your taget 1 more second, and living though assassin burst.

-Sorry for bad photo quality- (My most recent game is crap. Dx)

hgjkdlsaf jeldvbMar 25, 20157 votes

item 3004 item 3508 item 3071 item 3035 item 3158 item 3072 item 3142

All of these are good choices.

HAIL WHYDRAMar 26, 20151 votes

Ive played AD Malz and the one thing I would say is to not play him in lane. He runs out of mana #2fast2quick. Check out an AD Malz jungle. Also to @I Like Hugs, I wouldnt recomend Essence Reaver since I dont find my self AA a lot. Just running around letting my voidlings do damage. Core IMO if youre laning is item 3070 / item 3004 , item 3035 item 3279 Voidlings Proc/Benefit from anything with "on-physical" in it ( item 3071 stacks, item 2140 "Spell Vamp" just to name a few), Buffs like Nunu Blood Boil or Sivir On the Hunt. What they do not proc/benfit from are "on-hit" ( item 3057 Procs, item 3153 / item 3146 Passive/CDR from spells respectively) Crit stikes/Chance, Malz Movement speed, BoC, Life Steal/Spell Vamp, Captain on Boots, et cetera et cetera. By the way, if you want a defensive item I would suggest Randuins>Frozen Heart (Seriously, must everything with mana and cdr core on ad malz?)

Space BumMar 26, 20151 votes

His mana is fine Start item 1056 Rush item 3070 +mana regen from Visions +6X mana regen glyphs +3points into mana regen mastery

HAIL WHYDRAMar 26, 20152 votes

When I play AD Malz, regardless if Im in the jungle or Lane, I do: AD Scaling Marks (Your voidlings damage early is about the same if youre ap/start flat ad marks), Scaling Mana regen Yellows ( Not blues since I take...), Flat cdr blues (7.5% cdr) 1 cdr quint (Rounds it out to 15% cdr at level 1 on runes and masteries) and 2 MS Quints. For Masteries I take 21/0/9. In lane I start Dorans Blade+1 hp pot and item 3342 , then rush the Tear into CDR boots plus Alacrity and Warrior enchanment Stalkers if Im Jungling, or Brutalizer if Im laning into a Black Cleaver. Next I grab a Last Whisper if Im ahead, or a Manamune if Im behind (Manamune provides a nice cheap powerspike) Then a defensive item like a Randuins or Banshees. Then get what I didnt get before (Manamune or LW) Then I finish the Black cleaver and then a fill item of your choice. Pro Tip: item 3157 Is a Niche but exetremely good item on AD Malz. Counter Intuitive? Yes. Helpful? Hell yeah. You turn invuln. Not your voidlings. Its fun to just duel a fed melee fighter, your both on the last line of health. But oh wait, Zhonyas while your opponent gets rended my your voidlings. Thats just my two cents item 3301

Ltank129Mar 26, 20152 votes

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I've never tried AD Malzahar, could I get a recommended build to try out? :o

AD Malz is about 4 things. Spamming Abilities to spawn voidlings, Kiting enemies so your voidlings can munch them down, penetrating armor and tankiness.

item 3004 - Definitely core of his early build. AD Malz is all about spamming abilities to get voidlings out. He needs the mana, and the AD is beautiful.

item 3035 and item 3071 both give you armor pen, so melting tanks becomes easy. Note that voidlings proc the black cleaver.

item 3276 Your voidlings benefit from this, and the cooldown is wonderful

item 3022 - Some damage, and your AA slow. I would not recommend many on hit affects, because your voidlings proc few of these, but Frozen Mallet's slow on your AA makes it rather useful.

item 3512 item 3060 - Part of AD Malz is split pushing, so either of these is useful

item 3110 - Mana and Armor? Yes Pls. If Frozen Mallet is not your thing, this is a good alternative.

item 3031 item 3072 item 3508 - These are all iffy on him. Lifesteal, Crits, and ER's Passive aren't proc'd by voidlings.

item 3153 item 3087 - Malzahar's voidlings don't benefit from his AS, so these don't do much.

item 3056 - Situational. Health and Cooldown. If your enemies are camping Turrets, go for it.

CarniverousMar 26, 20152 votes

and both give you armor pen, so melting tanks becomes easy. Not that voidlings proc the black cleaver.

Voidling Deal AD damage, and thus Proc Black cleaver. item 2140 Also, Voidlings can give HP back on hiting Champs only with this potion.

Ltank129Mar 30, 20151 votes

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Voidling Deal AD damage, and thus Proc Black cleaver. Also, Voidlings can give HP back on hiting Champs only with this potion.

*Note

My bad, that was a typo lol.

Takeuchi 17Mar 26, 20151 votes

lmao. I've only ever tried AD malz once and for some reason didnt like it. hes my main man too lol. may be I should revisit this. what do you build and whats the best way to take advantage of building AD malz?

Space BumMar 26, 20152 votes

Look me up on lolking for my runes and masteries. "ad malz" pages My normal build looks something like item 3004 item 3508 item 3071 item 3025 item 3158 item 3102

Just get your passive ready and throw visions on someone to proc it. The only top lane matchup that is not fun is Gangplank (mainly because of the poke) but it's still winable. If you know a fight is about to break out spam abilities to get out two voidlings for the massive "deeps"

BastionKrossMar 26, 20153 votes

There's a guy that mains AD Malz jungle in diamond and wrote a guide for AD Malz. His name is AquaDragon33. He also streams on twitch almost every day.

Only Play DariusMar 26, 20151 votes

His voidlings are squishy and he has no other AD scalings.

Why do people do this?

Space BumMar 26, 20152 votes

Voidlings deal 150% AD It's very easy to have 2 out at a time. 3 is tricky. 2voidlings+Malz = 400% sustained damage..... Technically no one else in the game has better scaling. And the voidlings are not as squish as you think after they grow.

you can't really expect people to focus the voidlings because Malz will normally Agro the same time they do and he is still the bigger threat.

So if I have a long sword that increases my damage by 10. It potential increases my damage by 40, 10 damage shy of a BF sword.

TerchioMar 27, 20151 votes

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Voidlings deal 150% AD It's very easy to have 2 out at a time. 3 is tricky. 2voidlings+Malz = 400% sustained damage..... Technically no one else in the game has better scaling. And the voidlings are not as squish as you think after they grow.

you can't really expect people to focus the voidlings because Malz will normally Agro the same time they do and he is still the bigger threat.

So if I have a long sword that increases my damage by 10. It potential increases my damage by 40, 10 damage shy of a BF sword.

... Pretty sure it's 100% AD, not 150%.

Space BumMar 27, 20152 votes

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Malzahar#Pets 150%

CarniverousMar 28, 20152 votes

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... Pretty sure it's 100% AD, not 150%.

After 7 seconds Voidlings gain a 50% bonus to total armor and AD. Making a 1.5x's bonus for the 1-1 AD resulting in a 1-1.5 total.

CarniverousMar 26, 20153 votes

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His voidlings are squishy and he has no other AD scalings.

Why do people do this?

http://lol.gamepedia.com/Malzahar_-_The_Prophet_of_the_Void

Voidlings are not as Sqishy as you think. They have 1100 HP at level 18.

His damage with 3 voidlings is, arguably the highest DPS in the game. Typical 300 AD. Voidling 1 has 300 AD with 1 attack per second. Voidling 2 has 450 AD with 1 attack per second. Voidling 3 will have 450AD with 1.496 attacks per second. (675 DPS ttoal) 1425 DPS every second before reductions. Malz's ult holds the target still for 2.5 seconds. 1,425 x 2.5 = 3,562.5 over it's duration. NASUS, with 1k STACKS, and 40% CDR, has tow ait 7 seconds to deal that much damage. 1k stacks.... Good lord is that a lot. Me? Malz? I have 3 offensive items, I'm an assassin AD carry tank sir lord boss LC$plays#JustDoIt

If you use http://www.teryd.net/ LoL build simulator(Not up to date) You can see that it is hard for ADC's to get to that damage. It is possible for them to out damage this with 6 offence items and full AD ruins and what not. As where Malz with 6 offence items has 600 AD and if I really have to do the math for you then.... Seriously, voidlings with 900FREAKING AD. URF mode man. Best, ever.