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How do I keep jungle Vayne/Kayle down?

BluePolarizer·8/19/2015, 6:10:26 AM·1 votes·835 views

Just lost a game against a jungle Vayne despite FBing her at level 2 and then killing her in a countergank and stealing her camps. Its like if you don't live in her jungle, where laners can easily collapse on you, you can't keep her down. If even one of your lanes loses, now you have a dilemma: do you save that laner or do you keep counterjungling? If you keep counterjungling, the fed enemy laner will now come to kill you easily since you are in their (likely warded) jungle. If you don't counterjungle, Vayne can solo carry her team.

You can't late game against a jungle Vayne/Kayle the way you can against melee devourer junglers. The solution to jungle Yi is CC and burst. It is much harder to CC and burst a Vayne due to her range and mobility alone. Needless to say, Kayle is pretty much invulnerable to burst if played well.

I just don't know how to keep them down if even one lane loses.

5 Comments

Trash MammaI8/19/2015, 6:24:45 AM1 votes

Did you just say jungle vayne? Lmao, that's a free win. Unless the game goes on for 40+ minutes there's no reason other than your team didn't deserve to win that you should lose that.

Vayne no matter where she is, IS a late game HYPER CARRY. If the game goes on long enough for her to get 3-4 items you aren't going to win without instakilling her. That's just how it works.

Kill her. Take her giant camps and leave 1 small one. Ward her jungle up and get your other laners to bother her when you can't.

Kayle is just Kayle. Unless you have someone to cc/instakill her as well so she can't use that stupidly retarded ult of hers you won't do much either.

They're meant to win late game. If it gets there then you're done for

Torenthal8/19/2015, 7:57:30 AM1 votes

For vayne you need some kind of point and click stun, or something that can slow her + make sure you have a pink or upgraded sweeper. In teamfights you just nuke her down.

For Kayle it's a bit tougher. She gets incredibly strong late game - One of the best things you can do is to catch someone off guard and create picks using vision. Then forcing a 5v4 fight at baron.