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Trinity Force on Top Lane Quinn?

Devack The Holy··1 votes·3,547 views

item 3078 Quinn

So, I've been looking at this item on Quinn, and I've actually been seeing some decent results.

About the only stat on this item that doesn't work to well on Quinn is the AP, although, her Q has an AP scaling. The Sheen proc fits nicely into her combo, and the mana helps her early game.

I've found a build like this:

item 3153 item 3078 item 3142 item 3143 item 3102 item 3265

tends to work quite well on her.

So, T&T, am I wrong in thinking that Trinity Force is a good item for Quinn?

14 Comments

AwesomeChad2 votes

So heres my take on triforce on quinn:

Its not a good item to build on her mainly because she doesn't have short cooldowns on her abilities to maximize the dmg it deals. If you look at her 2 main spells that allow her to proc triforce, its her Q ( 7-11 second cooldown) and E (8-12 second cooldown) and triforce's passive has a 2 second cooldown. Her playstyle is mainly to proc her passive and get the attack speed steroid on her W, allowing her to kite the enemy more effectively. Overall, triforce is a waste of gold on her. You could simply build an autoattack focused build like Botrk > Youmuu's Ghostblade > Infinity edge > static shiv which optimizes her playstyle and skill kit.

Source, I am a diamond 3 adc main so its part of my job to know proper itemization on each adc to optimize their dps.

Dunderflump2 votes

What the guy above you said: she has no spammable abilities to take advantage of Sheen. Additionally, the movespeed from Phage isn't necessary; Quinn already catches people extremely well without it. Triforce is expensive and doesn't provide enough for Quinn to be worthwhile.

Shrîke1 votes

What the guy above you said: she has no spammable abilities to take advantage of Sheen. Additionally, the movespeed from Phage isn't necessary; Quinn already catches people extremely well without it. Triforce is expensive and doesn't provide enough for Quinn to be worthwhile.

^ You don't get Trinity Force on Quinn to spam abilities, you get it for the burst. Phage also synergises well with her W for kite-ability, so it is a good item for a bruiser type build. And I wouldn't get it early in the game either, where item 3087 is a lot more cost efficient early. I would only buy TF late game to replace shiv.

Dunderflump1 votes

No. It's bad.

Devack The Holy1 votes

No. It's bad.

Mind elaborating?

Klax002saur1 votes

I play a bunch of Quinn and consider her my main. I play her Top, Bottom, and Mid. Often times i see a lot of people use a build similar to yours. Personally, I think it's trash.

My reasoning as to why it's bad is that it has so much attack speed. Quinn's huge weakness is that she has a shorter range, so this means fewer times to deal damage in team fights. Huge AS steroids just don't get used on her imo due to the danger involved.

Regardless of where i play her, this is my standard Start on Quinn.

item 3031 item 3006 item 3078 (Boots flexible, whatever you need)

Now I choose this build path because it feels like the strongest start on her for me, and maximizes the typically 1-2 Trinity Force proc's you'll get in a single skirmish.

You should really play Quinn mostly as an assassin, as her kit is INSANE in 1v1 fights, especially in Valor form. With just IE and Trinity you can R>E>Q>Auto>R and kill a carry if they have no armor or health item yet. If you somehow don't kill them, they have like, 10 hp and you just shoot them, all before your blind wears off on them.

As such, my Quinn builds usually look like this.

For Max dmg against non armor targets. (for armored substitute LW for youmoos if they have like, 3 armor items. You shouldn't really fight them if they do anyways, kill something else) item 3031 item 3006 item 3078 item 3072 item 3142 item 3026

For more tank (finish hexdrinker after randuins) item 3031 item 3111 item 3078 item 3155 item 3143 item 3026

I really don't stray from those 2 builds, but you have to be mindful that you won't crit much with the tankier build and as such assassinations have a bit of an RNG to them.

Overall my opinion is "Yes" to trinity force on Quinn, but don't build attack speed to back it up, build raw damage. Those 2 sheen procs need to HURT to make it worth it and BOTRK/TF/Youmoos just doesn't hurt at all.

Devack The Holy1 votes

I play a bunch of Quinn and consider her my main. I play her Top, Bottom, and Mid. Often times i see a lot of people use a build similar to yours. Personally, I think it's trash.

My reasoning as to why it's bad is that it has so much attack speed. Quinn's huge weakness is that she has a shorter range, so this means fewer times to deal damage in team fights. Huge AS steroids just don't get used on her imo due to the danger involved.

Wonder how this will change when her range buff hits live.

Klax002saur1 votes

I play a bunch of Quinn and consider her my main. I play her Top, Bottom, and Mid. Often times i see a lot of people use a build similar to yours. Personally, I think it's trash.

My reasoning as to why it's bad is that it has so much attack speed. Quinn's huge weakness is that she has a shorter range, so this means fewer times to deal damage in team fights. Huge AS steroids just don't get used on her imo due to the danger involved.

Wonder how this will change when her range buff hits live.

I'm not sure if 25 range is gonna change a lot but I can't wait! So happy she's getting buffed!

Konidias1 votes

As such, my Quinn builds usually look like this.

For Max dmg against non armor targets. (for armored substitute LW for youmoos if they have like, 3 armor items. You shouldn't really fight them if they do anyways, kill something else) item 3031 item 3006 item 3078 item 3072 item 3142 item 3026

For more tank (finish hexdrinker after randuins) item 3031 item 3111 item 3078 item 3155 item 3143 item 3026

I really don't stray from those 2 builds, but you have to be mindful that you won't crit much with the tankier build and as such assassinations have a bit of an RNG to them.

Overall my opinion is "Yes" to trinity force on Quinn, but don't build attack speed to back it up, build raw damage. Those 2 sheen procs need to HURT to make it worth it and BOTRK/TF/Youmoos just doesn't hurt at all.

imo these builds are terrible for Quinn, but to each their own.

Your build is extremely expensive and inefficient. Nearly everything in your build is garbage for Quinn. You really shouldn't be buying IE, BT or Youmuu's.... and only get Triforce in exchange for boots late game.

Why not BotrK instead of BT? You get better power spikes and the item is better than BT in every way.

IE is AD overkill.

Youmuu's is garbage. Get Black Cleaver instead.

GA is worthless. The stats it gives you aren't the best, and the ability is useless 90% of the time because usually when you die, you are going to revive in an entire swarm of enemies and get deleted immediately. Randuin's is a better choice. The active is useful when assassinating combined with BC and Quinn's own skills.

Triforce is too expensive to bother building until late late game and you should just replace your boots with it.

Feel free to debate this though.

Are you getting kills early game with your build path? I can't imagine it is easy since you have to farm so much before getting anything worthy of a power spike.

Klax002saur1 votes

imo these builds are terrible for Quinn, but to each their own.

My thoughts exactly :) But i value other people's opinions.

Your build is extremely expensive and inefficient. Nearly everything in your build is garbage for Quinn. You really shouldn't be buying IE, BT or Youmuu's.... and only get Triforce in exchange for boots late game.

Yes, it is expensive.Inefficient, debatable.

Why not BotrK instead of BT? You get better power spikes and the item is better than BT in every way.

No BOTRK because i don't need a lot of additional attack speed on her. I want to do maximum damage on my dive and I think the 80AD is more worth it since I also build Trinity Force. Additionally, a full BT shield gives you an effective health of about 2800 HP. The active is highly desirable however. And if it's someones preference to use botrk instead, by all means.

IE is AD overkill.

Well, i want maximum crit damage.

Youmuu's is garbage. Get Black Cleaver instead.

Black cleaver, on the 4th attack, has more armor penetration value than Last Whisper. I would take LW over BC as i kill my enemies in 4 attacks with this build.

GA is worthless. The stats it gives you aren't the best, and the ability is useless 90% of the time because usually when you die, you are going to revive in an entire swarm of enemies and get deleted immediately.

GA is about teamwork. Can a team protect your revive? Do you even need revived? If you can annihilate the enemy carry and die, your team can move in to protect you. Also, the defenses are nice with about 2800 HP.

Are you getting kills early game with your build path? I can't imagine it is easy since you have to farm so much before getting anything worthy of a power spike.

Usually, yes. Otherwise I farm very efficiently and just wait it out until teamfights roll around.

Shrîke1 votes

I play a bunch of Quinn and consider her my main. I play her Top, Bottom, and Mid. Often times i see a lot of people use a build similar to yours. Personally, I think it's trash.

item 3031 item 3006 item 3078 (Boots flexible, whatever you need)

For Max dmg against non armor targets. (for armored substitute LW for youmoos if they have like, 3 armor items. You shouldn't really fight them if they do anyways, kill something else) item 3031 item 3006 item 3078 item 3072 item 3142 item 3026

For more tank (finish hexdrinker after randuins) item 3031 item 3111 item 3078 item 3155 item 3143 item 3026

I.e. is terrible on her. So is BT. OP has a more optimal build than you. Armor pen/burst over crit any day. + cost efficiency

item 3153 item 3006 item 3142 item 3087 item 3078 item 3071 item 3035 - these are the best items for Quinn.

I always shake my head when I see people rush an I.E. and are self proclaimed "Quinn mains" you are delaying your power spike so early. Checked your rank stats too, 8 games? RLY.

Klax002saur1 votes

I.e. is terrible on her. So is BT. OP has a more optimal build than you. Armor pen/burst over crit any day. + cost efficiency

item 3153 item 3006 item 3142 item 3087 item 3078 item 3071 item 3035 - these are the best items for Quinn.

I always shake my head when I see people rush an I.E. and are self proclaimed "Quinn mains" you are delaying your power spike so early. Checked your rank stats too, 8 games? RLY.

What build path do you use? or is it exactly as you displayed above? and runes/masteries. Because i'll try it out for a few games.

I actually used to have a Quinn build heavy in Armor Pen that I called "True damage Quinn" but it was before Elder Lizard got nerfed and the sustain on spiritstone was changed. It was like this. It was mostly for shits and giggles, But it did somewhat work. Its lack of crit hurt a lot late game and it's part of what lead me to my current build.

item 3006 item 3153 item 3209 item 3071 item 3035 item 3142

I play any and all champions, but Quinn is about 1 of 3 i can actually call a main. I don't play ranked a lot, and since I'm an ADC main I rarely play her if I'm solo-queuing because i get yelled at. I've never seen anyone but me build Quinn like i do. Everyone does botrk/youmoos and i shit on them when they do.

I can understand the reasoning behind Armor Pen. I just can't get behind so much attack speed.

BastionKross1 votes

If you're taking Quinn top against a melee opponent, you can pretty much build whatever you want and win the lane.

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