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how do you jg against shaco?

Lucent Rengar··2 votes·1,870 views

usually when people pick shaco, i go nunu or shyvana. but it's just so damn hard to keep him in sight. my dumb ass team mates never buy pink wards. i buy pink ward, but you're only allowed one.

what is the most effective way to deal against a shaco jgler?

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Bunni Anzu3 votes

Invade level 1 and pop his boxes, his clear becomes weak and slow and requires a leashe. I main shaco and I find this annoying. Also, start red or blue buff directly instead of gromp or kruggs. Shaco doesn't use smite on his buff so he can smite yours.

Lucent Rengar1 votes

lmfao i never thought about that. sounds good though, thx man!

Bunni Anzu1 votes

Also, another tip, try playing a jungler with great dueling potential early on like Udyr or shyvana. Shaco out DPS's most junglers thanks to his box and bonus crit from decieve.

DrCyanide1 votes

Another thing to add to that: After you clear your Red/Blue buff, rush to your Blue/Red buff. Many Shaco's try and steal that buff right away, and if you can catch them there it makes life harder for them.

If you disrupt their first buff by popping the boxes, then you deny him the buff steal, there's going to be a very unhappy Shaco on the other team.

Earl Eulrich3 votes

pick a jungler that can either kill him 1v1 or at least escape (lee if available, the stealth-detect is just soo good vs shaco) - and then pray that your lanes play really save early on. If your lanes just overextend and feed shaco early there´s not much you can do at all. also best start red, as most shacos have the habbit of invading redbuff lvl 2 as the brush is just neat to set up boxes.

ShuffledPancake1 votes

Shaco is a bad pick, kek

Poptart Evelynn1 votes

Have mid pink one entrance and you pink the other entrance on the middle lane side bushes near entrances of your jungle. Watch for early cheese ganks and rush your level 6. At level 6 start smashin lanes and snowballin lanes ahead before shaco snowballs.

Annié1 votes

Ban Shaco, problem solved.

Lucent Rengar1 votes

because im always going to be first pick on ranked Q. yup. didnt think this one through before? please dont say "ask first pick to ban" cus half of the time they dont listen. they ban players who they have trouble with.

Annié1 votes

Pick Shaco :D

Lucent Rengar1 votes

oh nice. i'll first time shaco on rank.

jk, i like tank jglers. nunu, voli, shyv, etc.

Trash MammaI1 votes

Get your lanes to stay passive, as Shaco if you can't get a kill early on it becomes insanely hard to catch back up because you waste a ton of time trying to get one instead of getting any exp/gold.

Get your laners to ward your jungle. He's really squishy and he tries to counter jungle he wont be able to take much since he doesn't have time for an entire box set up prep. Being close to smiteing a camp but risking dying gets annoying.

Play tanks that outscale him hard. Amumu/sej etc. people that have AoE cc.

Drop pink wards down the second you see him Q.

Honestly, I could go on for ages because idk how you struggle hard vs Shaco. Especially since not many people can play him properly. The only thing they know about him is that he can clear early camp fast.

EllaRyu691 votes

lol i had a shaco invade me last time, i was shyvana. He poops ignite and stole my red but i got first blood and his boxes killed me after.

he then again tried to steal my blue but failed.

so, i went to proceed to ganking lanes since i know he was behind while trying to stop me farming.

i went on a legendary spree while he just ooomms from underfarmed and getting killed alot.

Doctrorpheus3 votes

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He poops ignite

EllaRyu691 votes

ohh god, my bad XD

LordBrasca1 votes

Start by knowing that he will invade you FOR SURE. Now that you know this if you can't pop his boxes with an invade just place a ward in the brush closest to the buff near the river, in this way you can see him coming and pop his Q and have enough time to call your team. If your team reacts at the call he's basically dead, shaco usually doesn't go with flash and Q has a kinda high CD to punish him. If your team doesn't just go away in the moment you see him coming, if he doesn't see you doing the buff he will probably try to do it by himself or just wait and waste time. If you prefer to stay safe i strongly suggest you to directly start from the buff (this is actually the best thing you can do) or better always start from the red buff so that he can't invade you with red at level 2. Hope that this tips will help you :)

3tyson1 votes

if you are playing a jungler on wich takng bufs is a bitch cause of a weak clear

try taking your small camps first and warding your buffs if shaco shows up he will either steal it or stay around and youl see him thanks to your ward

hes not gonne sit around and wait for ever for you to finaly take buff so he may try and steal it than you can invade him in your jungle ;p

ThaPizzaMan1 votes

Hecarim or Amumu Maybe not the best example but, if your going against squishys here ya go. http://i.imgur.com/i4yeNxW.png

ThaPizzaMan1 votes

This build is tankier it's soo chill http://i.imgur.com/QcxsuEJ.png?1

3tyson2 votes

also dont pick amumu he might beat him late game sure but shaco is a specialist when it comes to invading

amumu doesnt like getting invaded what this would acomplish is that even if your laners are playing as save as they can he can still come in your jungle to last hit you delay your late game or even not make it happen at al

3tyson1 votes

RekSai

at 56 seconds he will be placing his first jack in the box often at his red. let your mid laner ward this at 1.11 he will feel uncomfertable and leave this buff unable to do the red than go straight for a gank mid wich seems very populair on him and give both him and his mid laner a huge lead if successfull

if hes not there chances r really big hes doing krugs than red or blue buff than your red so ward bush when your clearing it i prefere not to fight him here yet cause yet he is stil weak so am i so i much rather just take my buff and avoid meeting him here

whenever you see your team mates overextend ping them back cause shaco can just show up and kill them try and let them have the early game as save as possible if shaco falls behind hes basicly losing and he needs to make kills

also upgrading your sweeper is really usefull cause if he doesnt q over a wall you can see him with this and hes sort of screwed

Hasztalan21 votes

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eboy ekko1 votes

You dont jungle. You go to lanes and force the fucker to show his face then farm like a madman while he gets murdered by your 4/0 sion top that you've been camping. Shaco

slôw1 votes

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usually when people pick shaco, i go nunu or shyvana. but it's just so damn hard to keep him in sight. my dumb ass team mates never buy pink wards. i buy pink ward, but you're only allowed one.

what is the most effective way to deal against a shaco jgler?

First, calling your teammates dumbasses probably means you should be losing anyway, and I'm glad for that.

SECOND. play champions that can check brushes, like rengar and shyvana can use their range ability to check a brush. ALSO. buy normal wards and put them in the path ways entering your jungle and check the map constantly.

THIRD. I could go on all day alllllllllllllllllllll day, watch replays, tell you exactly what you need to change to improve, put it in word documents, excel sheets, teach you everything you need to improve, but I know from your attitude (atleast the attitude you've depicted here) you won't get better.

Lucent Rengar1 votes

please dont preach.....you know damn well as well as I do that they ARE stupid players out there with no brains. and it may not be their fault, but dumb ass people do exist. so i can call them that as long as they are.

slôw1 votes

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please dont preach.....you know damn well as well as I do that they ARE stupid players out there with no brains. and it may not be their fault, but dumb ass people do exist. so i can call them that as long as they are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases just go pick some out.

Their Jungler1 votes

Deny his early counterjungling/ganks and watch him crumble.

Zarxis1 votes

Lee Sin is probably my most hated opponent when I play Shaco because of his ability to reveal stealthed champions, plus he's an insane duelist throughout the game (if you know how to tell which Shaco is the real one, at least).

I'd suggest switching up whichever buff you usually start on as your champion— this can majorly throw off an invading Shaco. He can't sit and wait to kill you at your red buff if you've already taken it, can he? If you can't afford to do that (ex: Fiddlesticks probably shouldn't try starting red), try to get your allies to work with you (pink wards, collapsing on Shaco when he goes into your jungle, etc.).

Make sure your allies know to hang back in the early game, otherwise they will get flanked and killed. Everyone that doesn't buy a pink ward should consider how much damage Shaco could do to them before they reach their towers— backing early will be necessary to prevent Shaco from unexpectedly popping up and doing just enough damage to finish them off (with or without his allied laner's help).

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