protip: do not play a mid that doesn't have AOE, huge burst or CC.

BluePolarizer·May 21, 2015·1 votes·1,385 views

Doing so is a huge lategame liability for the team. Even if the enemy mid is far behind you, their utility will more than make up for your lack of utility. And if you lose lane? its gg.

That means please don't play mid unless you are gonna snowball.

EDIT I deleted Lulu because I realized that she has strong CC and utility. I replaced her with Fizz because his burst is very unreliable and you're snowball reliant. Even then he has to be super far ahead to be good in teamfights.

35 Comments

ProtokaiMay 21, 20154 votes

very bad examples of this if you are complaining of lack of utility/aoe/cc why is lulu up there her Q deals aoe dmg, your q is a slow,your ult has a knockup and health boost to target, and you have a shield for allies and can make them move faster seriously why the heck is she on your list when she is literally the type of champ you want in your game by what you said in your post.

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

I should delete Lulu. The main point is don't play Ez and Urgot mid but I like the number 3 so I picked Lulu. My mistake. I should put Fizz up there.

SgtCrispyMay 21, 20152 votes

Fizz has burst AOE and CC Urgot has burst and CC Ezreal has burst and AOE.

Wolf QueenMay 21, 20151 votes

um urgot does have cc and he counters zed pretty hard which right now zed is pretty popular

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

its a huge lategame liability. And what if the enemy doesn't pick Zed? What if they play a scaling waveclear mid and just outfarm you and watch as Urgot's lack of mobility and reliance on snowballing makes him fall off harder than a rock?

aaronautumnMay 21, 20151 votes

doesn't ezreal have aoe? doesn't lulu have cc?

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

Ezreal has very weak AOE. He also lacks burst.

Lulu has average CC but nowhere near CC mids like Orianna Chogath Anivia Lissandra Velkoz Xerath who can stun/knockup/silence/root/slow multiple champs.

Stray KatMay 21, 20151 votes

I can't agree with this. Lulu has her Polymorph, A slow on her Q that hits multiple targets, and a knockup on her ult.

Anivia has.. One stun? And a wall~, and an AOE slow on her ult. Ori has An AOE slow and her ult. Xerath has an AOE slow and a single target stun. Vel has an AOE knockup and a slow that can hit up to 3 targets.

Lulu has AT LEAST comparable CC to those ones, if not more. I feel she perfectly fits the criteria you've asked for. More so than some of those at least.

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

you are right. I replaced with Fizz. Mostly summarizing the results of my experiences recently where a snowball dependent mid still failed late game due to outscaling.

DrCyanideMay 21, 20151 votes

Ezreal has very weak AOE. He also lacks burst.

You're building him wrong then. Build AP.

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

still very unreliable. If you want a mobile AP burst champ why not just play LeBlanc or Nidalee? At least they also have some AOE and utility.

ProtokaiMay 21, 20151 votes

nidalee doesnt have any cc and her aoe is dangerous for her if she builds alot of ap and deal no dmg if she doesnt so by your list you hate her as well..... i think i should stop coming back here i am starting to sound like a jerk lmao o well. ill just leave this final statement people have playstyles and certain champs are just amazing in their hands while others suck really bad i suck with litterally every mage the only one i can play is kayle and well she is just an Q+E then ult someone heal someone else so they can run away/pursue an opponet her winrate in diamond and masters is like 35percent but she is the only ap mid laner i can actually play somewhat decently is she bad generally yes but if you put me on a mage i will go 1/7 and feed the katerina so lets just let people play things that they feel comforable with okay friend?

LuggMay 21, 20151 votes

Protip? All 3 of those champions are played a ton at the pro level.

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

They are very snowball reliant, and even if snowballed, might still lose due to outscaling from long ranged mids with high utility.

LuggMay 21, 20151 votes

No, they are not snowball reliant. The mid laners that are snowball reliant are mostly the assassins.

Urgot is a lane bully, so he rarely loses lane. Fizz is very strong all game long. Ezreal scales very good into the late game, so he is fine once he has his triforce.

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

Urgot is a lane bully but that only works if the enemy actually stays in lane for you to bully. Whose to say the enemy won't roam and gank bot or top then come back with an advantage or even? Once laning ends, Urgot is a liability if he's not 5-0 or something. Fizz has a terrible laning phase, bad waveclear and unreliable burst. Ez is terrible mid.

LuggMay 21, 20151 votes

If the enemy is bullied out of lane, it doesn't matter if they roam. They will be underfed and not be able to gank other lanes effectively. In fact, they may feed the lane they went to. Plus you get free farm and outscale them super hard.

Fizz's laning phase is only bad against a few champs. Once he gets trickster to level 3, he can clear waves in about 2 seconds. While his burst isn't as great as it used to be, he has much better sustained damage now.

Ez can be great mid for most matchups. He has good range, can help other lanes without ever roaming due to his ult, and he has good waveclear with either his ult or just getting Ludens Echo. There is a reason so many pros play him mid.

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

maybe you should consider that you are bronze and I am plat, so maybe, just maybe, I have a bit of game knowledge that you don't.

Another tip: there is such a thing called base damage, which is more than enough to turn a gank at lvl 6 even with no items.

LuggMay 21, 20151 votes

Maybe you should consider that this is my smurf account.

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

don't care. how high of a smurf can you be if you think that with Fizz, Ez and Urgot's win rates they're actually good in general, and not just gimmicks or counterpicks?

MLDzXnRRRMay 21, 20151 votes

Ezrael is one of the burstiest champions in the game (maybe you miss his skillshots every time)...

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

I don't play Ez. I don't want my teammates playing Ez either. I don't care if they win lane, if they win lane we still might lose because then we lack CC and AOE in teamfights, if they lose lane its already GG.

MLDzXnRRRMay 21, 20151 votes

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I don't play Ez. I don't want my teammates playing Ez either. I don't care if they win lane, if they win lane we still might lose because then we lack CC and AOE in teamfights, if they lose lane its already GG.

The same thing may be said for your most played champion in ranked...

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

Yi has blue smite, Randuins and BoRK for CC and Q which can crit for AOE. Does Ez have blue smite or Randuins? There's also the problem that Ez has way less sustained damage than Yi and can't tank the way Yi can.

ProtokaiMay 21, 20151 votes

i dont mean to cyber bully but i like ezreals mid his e does aoe in an area around him when he dashes in or out his w does aoe dmg in the line of it firing and the r is well amazing global clearing of minion waves/ huge dmg in team fights sure he doesnt have cc but most top/jungle/supports + the ashe love that is going around provides alot of cc in general so at times an ezreal pick is really good and some players are godly with him just take a look at a few people like sivhd

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

the average plat is not sivHD. unless you are challenger, don't play ez mid.

Poptart EvelynnMay 21, 20151 votes

Faker plays Ez mid. What now?

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

the average plat is not faker. faker also has his team pick around him instead of late picks taking whatever the hell they want. why would you not pick the safest possible thing in ranked and instead have unreliable snowballers?

Vistha KaiMay 21, 20151 votes

But- but... I'm Faker >:(

aaronautumnMay 21, 20151 votes

tbh your mid doesn't even need cc if your jungle, top, or support has it in excess.

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

it is still very unreliable and snowball reliant. is it so much to ask that ppl just pick safe picks that are good all game, don't fall behind easily and don't suck late game? no, they gotta play the snowball reliant champs that are melee minions if they fall behind.

mikeysnonsenseMay 21, 20151 votes

Some people are gods with certain champs, and playing against their "counter" doesn't matter. Sometimes they won't be good in teamfights but will be great at 1v1. The game changes as do champions. You can build your team compilation accordingly or not.

You may not like these champs because you've experienced negativity associated with them. That does not mean they are bad champions and should not be played as certain roles.

BluePolarizerMay 21, 20151 votes

if they're a low pick and take a low utility mid, then feed the enemy high utlity mid, that is completely their fault, especially when they're one of the "mid or feed" people.

19348180DEL1May 21, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Some people are gods with certain champs, and playing against their "counter" doesn't matter. Sometimes they won't be good in teamfights but will be great at 1v1. The game changes as do champions. You can build your team compilation accordingly or not.

You may not like these champs because you've experienced negativity associated with them. That does not mean they are bad champions and should not be played as certain roles.

I like the way you think!

# Evelynn > Riven