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The Nasus Conundrum

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Whenever I face a Nasus, his team will gank for him to get him ahead, set up counterjungling paths and save him from when he's low.

When I play Nasus, I see two or three enemies sitting top and my team manages to still lose everywhere else on the map.

What do

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Faith Breaker10 votes

Doesn't it always seem anytime you face a potentially snow bally champ, your jungler won't gank top to put them behind or stop them from getting ahead, mid won't roam top, and the enemy will get jungle and mid ganks on you to help them snowball. But when you play said snowbally top lane champ, expecting your team to recognize the potential in helping you out, you get no ganks, can't farm part the middle of the lane for fear of being ganked, and when team fights break out and you start grouping, you are NOT ahead and your team blames you for being a loser.

What do you do? Nothing. You can't control your team mates. You either get matched with a team that wants to win or you get matched with a buncha kids that think they are pro and all want to "carry"

Darth Havøk1 votes

you sir nailed it.

Hocker4 votes

I'm a Nasus main, and I feel this a lot. I'll have a great game up top only to have my team just disintegrate.

Everything you said is true at one point or another. I think, though, that in most cases it is more about how the objectives and most of the players are down between mid and bot. Jung ends up focusing too much down there also because ADCs are whiny.

JJ H0G1 votes

Every other game I play as Darius ends up as a loss because of a bot lane that can manage to feed the jungler AND ADC enough kills to take on a 5/0 Darius. That's why the only champs I'll pick for top in ranked this season are my Volibear and Farmplank.

Peel Your ADC1 votes

It is quite the conundrum to overcome. I once had a game where my top laner literally told me to not gank the Nasus and let him farm for the epic 1v1 at 40 minutes.

Sadly, he cost us the game...

Stephenizgod6 votes

THIS! Man no matter who i am it seems like i am constantly getting dove under turret by 2-3 people and my jungler always responds with "Uh you dont gank top...duh"... Well their jungler is and is getting pretty fed off of it now either take fucking dragon or get the hell up here and help me. This whole 'Dont Gank Top Because Dragon is Bottom and Marksmen is More Important' bullshit needs to stop or be clarified, noob junglers take this way too literally and never ever no matter what gank top and if they do its to clean-up after im dead. Lately i have been losing Top alot, which i normally dont do, because i get absolutely no help from jungler and their jungler is basically winning the lane for them. I dont mind not getting ganks but when ive been dove for the 3rd time and he is back in my lane about to dive me again its safe to assume im being camped and you should either A) Take dragon now! or B) COUNTERGANK.... counter-ganking is a real thing look it up and learn the benefits...

junglerboy165 votes

That happens with almost every late game champ when you need it most...

It is worst when I play Poppy and my jungler or mid keeps telling me in chat, "No really, I play Poppy a lot and she is a lane bully, you don't need my help.".

INTER5TELLAR1 votes

lol, because some match ups won't be more difficult than others...XD what an idiot

Star PlatinumELO2 votes

git gud, but in all seriousness that is when you put on your dog pants and get a tripple, because your Nasus! (the most 1v5 winner in all of leg o' legions)

Hocker1 votes

And the most 1v5 loser too...

FistOfSharkiesha2 votes

God this happens to me too. As Nasus I either carry or go negative but it takes 4 enemies to take me down and I destroy 3 turrets in 2 minutes. While I'm being focused my allies are being executed by minions or being picked off 1 by 1 by a less retarded enemy. In a recent game I had a riven push my lane from level 1 and she was standing at my turret the entire game but my jungler wouldn't even go near top lane.

Peel Your ADC1 votes

Its not as bad as when they come to gank, somehow die with their double buffs, and now you're screwed for 20 minutes as you play catch up while they dont try to fix what they cause =/

Konidias2 votes

What sort of people even play Nasus?

Do you people aspire to be potatoes?

Lajinn51 votes

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What sort of people even play Nasus?

Do you people aspire to be potatoes?

Nah, they're just farmers at their cores

Yuumidiocre1 votes

my advice... Play defensively, stack q to about 80. idk how you build him but i usally start with item 3074 and item 3065 and depending on how the enemy top laner is. then build more health and damage. but in all honesty i play ad and no AP. i know thatwhen i have enough damage i can take on 2 easily and if one gets away jgr gets him later on. also communication helps

and thats early game

Faith Breaker3 votes

I don't build Hydra on Nasus for the simply fact its AoE passive can interfere with his Q stacking. When you get your q to around 2 seconds cooldown you can q every other auto attack. Auto attack, q, auto attack, auto attack, q, ect.

Schteltzer3 votes

lol you have no idea what you are talking about ... cough item 3074

Faith Breaker6 votes

Whatever pros you can state for building Ravenous Hydra on Nasus, I can state the single con of him missing out on q stacks, and it negates any pro. Unless you are building AP Nasus (Which does his dmg off his e and doesn't stack his q) and even in that case where stacks don't matter, neither would the wasted stats of the Hydra on an AP Build. You build this on Nasus you are going to deny yourself q stacks, while not having the tankyness or AP to compensate for the weaker q stacks. You do 3 things as Nasus: You destroy everything with q. You tank everything if you can't destroy everything with q. You build AP and get triple to quadra kills by playing like Xerath and landing as many E's as you can before you or your team fully commits.

If you do anything else as Nasus, you're not playing Nasus to his best ability and you are not utilizing Ravenous Hydra on the proper champ. You want Rav Hydra top great it works wonderfully on alot of champs. Not Nasus. You wanna go Nasus top, the best way to go about it is to build completely tanky and max CDR. Let your q be your only source of dmg. At around 350 stacks your dmg output will be vastly superior to any ad or ap build. Nasus is a scaling champ. You grow his strength.

Building Hydra is a set amount of flat offensive increase, and thus inhibits Nasus to operate to his own kit mechanics. It's like building AP Vayne. You need to stop.

Schteltzer1 votes

okay, thanks for telling me everything I know already I didn't say hydra is good on him...

Hocker1 votes

start with hydra? really? In my 60%+ winrate with him, i never build offense first with him...let alone hydra ever

DarkenedSoul4202 votes

Stack q to 80...lol you gotta be trying not to stack your q to only get 80 stacks

Faith Breaker1 votes

I think he means stack to 80, then buy Hydra and go on the offensive. In general, 80 stacks is enough to trade with, but doesn't make him scary yet.

LeNinjaMaladroit1 votes

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my advice... Play defensively, stack q to about 80. idk how you build him but i usally start with item 3074 and item 3065 and depending on how the enemy top laner is. then build more health and damage. but in all honesty i play ad and no AP. i know thatwhen i have enough damage i can take on 2 easily and if one gets away jgr gets him later on. also communication helps

and thats early game

dear lord dont build hyrda, it ruins the stacks

dabs 4 jezus1 votes

I'm a Nasus main... FH,Tri,SV, w/e else..

If you can stack enough (and fast enough) you could potentially pull of 1v2's against enemy junglers, then carry the lane and the game.

It's just trying to stack and learning to stack under the turret as fast as you can.

SleepyLionCub1 votes

Nasus really isnt all that bad. He is a champion who can lose his lane in the champion select. Any ranged top can beat him, and bursty fighters who start with armorpen can beat him EX Riven, Darius, or Zed.

His late game is what defines him. If riot were to nerf his late game it would completely destroy him.

A great trick for beating nasus is picking a champion with ranged lockdown cc.

DarkenedSoul4201 votes

Or if you really wanna troll a nasus, pick satan Teemo

That blind tho

SleepyLionCub1 votes

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Or if you really wanna troll a nasus, pick satan Teemo

That blind tho

"any ranged top"

Hocker1 votes

Teemo is a crap-shoot against Nasus. His early gave vs Nasus is a nightmare for the dog...but most Teemos are either very predictable or late with the blind. As long as you play it safe and buy the Cowl on your first back (start with ruby crystal), then Teemo isn't as bad for the rest of the game, unless he gets help from the jungler...but since Dragon has become more important these days, jungle doesn't come up top much anymore. Once Teemo uses that blind, and if you are a patient Nasus...teemo will be begging for help after he burns that flash.

DarkenedSoul4201 votes

Start flask + pots > stack that q > build tanky > stack that q

  1. Lol thats my general strategy and it generally goes well. The idea is to out sustain the enemies and get tanky enough that you can almost ignore them and freely farm q while NOT pushing your lane up. This strategy actually works really well against champs like Pantheon and Darius because they will go oom very early trying to kill you while you have only used a couple pots and still have your flask to keep you in lane as long as possible.

The one big downfall is if you first pick nasus, there are definitely some hard counters out there that will ruin your entire match! Vayne item 3070

Hopefully this helps and take tanky runes+masteries

revliledpembroke1 votes

My downfall as Nasus top came against Kayle item 3070 item 3070 item 3070 item 3070

Faith Breaker1 votes

I built Thornmail on Nasus once. Oh that game.

ladention1 votes

Buy item 3024 and item 3067 Early to get tankiness and cdr for Q stacking

Peel Your ADC1 votes

That's a given obviously.

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