What part of "Melee Only" is so hard?

Peel Your ADC··54 votes·3,809 views

If I had a win for every time I've seen an ADC take flesheater in Black Market Brawlers, I could leave the god-forsaken mode and be content with the shiny little icons.

Tl;dr- Flesheater is melee only, Mr. Quinn Jungle.

Edit: New game modes make people unable to read.

Mirage blade teleports you AWAY from the target.

Typhoon claws passive is the same name as sated devourer. So don't take both.

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EndlessSorcerer7 votes

If melee-only were an easy concept to understand, we wouldn't get so many threads reporting Thresh being unable to execute minions with Relic Shield as a bug.

junglerboy161 votes

Wait, we still get those?

I thought the Thresh reports ended at least several months ago...

lolipopevelynn6 votes

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If I had a win for every time I've seen an ADC take flesheater in Black Market Brawlers, I could leave the god-forsaken mode and be content with the shiny little icons.

Tl;dr- Flesheater is melee only, Mr. Quinn Jungle.

i admit to being guilty of this the first time playing that mode. its a crap item even on melees tho so...

Peel Your ADC14 votes

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i admit to being guilty of this the first time playing that mode. its a crap item even on melees tho so...

Xin Zhao, Olaf and Trynd top all like to thank you for buying ironbacks early. It makes it MUCH easier to get 5 hits in without clearing the wave.

Icestar11865 votes

Also Darius, Renekton, and Aatrox. I carried a game with Flesheater Aatrox.

Yes. Carried. With Aatrox.

Auz the Ripper1 votes

Flesheater Aatrox is rediculous; Throw in a typhoon claws and then build full tank.

I've walked out of dueling a full-build item 3931 Jax with more health than I started with

Davy Crockett1 votes

try Renekton Flesheater+Trickster+Dead Man plate

ElJanitorFrank1 votes

I took Flesheater as Nasus against Teemo. I could farm to my hearts content simply because I got a MASSIVE amount of sustain from my passive + Flesheater.

DJ Di05 votes

Obviously it was for Valor form. /s

Dingding1235 votes

Well some people don't think the time investment to get good is worth it. A lot that are interested and want to get into competitive play might be reluctant to as well because their cliques don't like it/don't play video games in general. Others still just don't think they'll ever have the dexterity in their fingers to become "pro", and most people have only played a match or two of it and think they're the best.

Of course Super Smash Bros. Melee is an amazing game, competitive or no. But Brawl and SSB4 aren't bad, they're just overall less addictive, or so statistics have been saying for all these years.

melee4lyfe

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Well some people don't think the time investment to get good is worth it. A lot that are interested and want to get into competitive play might be reluctant to as well because their cliques don't like it/don't play video games in general. Others still just don't think they'll ever have the dexterity in their fingers to become "pro", and most people in general have only played one match of it and think they're the best.

Of course Super Smash Bros. Melee is an amazing game, competitive or no. But Brawl and SSB4 aren't bad, they're just overall less addictive, or so statistics have been saying for all these years.

melee4lyfe

This guy.

Vi and Cupcait4 votes

This is the same logic Rito likes seeing as they made GP's gun melee and Kayle's sword ranged.

Thryale2 votes

be honest, do you really want to see kayle's build hydra?

kDrakari1 votes

You prefer Kayle building Runaan's?

Thryale1 votes

runaans honestly isn't that bad(I'd muchly prefer wits end tbh). It's only really strong in a tight team cluster, if your team focuses on picks and/or split pushing, kayle will not get as much out of the item.

Not to mention runaans doesn't give any inherent dmg that kayle doesn't already have, it just spreads it to 2 extra targets. AD Kayle used to be a thing a while back, with static shiv, IE and whatnot. Just imagin that with a tiamat, she'd be an unstoppable split pusher that way with her super wave clear, kiting, and tower taking abilities.

Peel Your ADC2 votes

I think it's just the lower 50% of the ranked population trying to get icons.

The bronze is quite evident and its really messed up that their feeding affects your lanes since buff-ass brawlers come out of the cut at 8 minutes.

SociopathFriend2 votes

I'd like to call bullshit on saying bad people are bad but... I can't after my last few games- I really can't.

One game Enemy Fiora Jungle: "This is so stupid! Stun after stun- I can't do anything!" Us Malzahar Braum Ashe "That's a shame."

Last game The enemy Vayne literally flashed over the wall to steal the Krugs from the Fizz Jungle and then he chased her while our Ekko simply walked down to cut her off for a First Blood at like 2:10. With some Nami assistance of course, never let it be said I don't help a brother fish out.

Peel Your ADC1 votes

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I'd like to call bullshit on saying bad people are bad but... I can't after my last few games- I really can't.

One game Enemy Fiora Jungle: "This is so stupid! Stun after stun- I can't do anything!" Us Malzahar Braum Ashe "That's a shame."

Last game The enemy Vayne literally flashed over the wall to steal the Krugs from the Fizz Jungle and then he chased her while our Ekko simply walked down to cut her off for a First Blood at like 2:10. With some Nami assistance of course, never let it be said I don't help a brother fish out.

I don't know WHERE these people come from, but they make me feel happier about slowly climbing out of gold 5. At least people buy the proper items to do what they need to do there... Sometimes.

cough bloodthirster rush on miss fortune cause I haven't played this champ in 3 seasons cough

ChaoticPinecone1 votes

im not a great ADC, but i bloodthirster rush a lot of my ADCs. I mean, you basically need a BF item, Zeal item, and Last Whisper to do damage at 30 minutes. if you go IE, PD, then Bloodthirster, you cant cut through a tank (if they have one).

The pros generally go IE, PD/Shiv, Last Whisper. I personally find getting lifesteal 35 minutes in the game is too late. I kinda need the lifesteal earlier, especially since they nerfed the LS runes. 3% lifesteal +70 health from a dorans blade isnt enough survivability.

SociopathFriend1 votes

As I understand it (ADC being my weakest position) Need a BF item first so you can do damage enough to farm. Need an AS item second so you can farm and fight. Need an armor pen item third so you can take towers and be any sort of threat to tanks.

I still can't express how surprised I was when I saw the level 1 Vayne flash over the wall to steal the krug from Fizz; and we had vision of the other lanes so we knew she was alone. "That girl wants to** die**."

Dar Raksada1 votes

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As I understand it (ADC being my weakest position) Need a BF item first so you can do damage enough to farm. Need an AS item second so you can farm and fight. Need an armor pen item third so you can take towers and be any sort of threat to tanks.

I still can't express how surprised I was when I saw the level 1 Vayne flash over the wall to steal the krug from Fizz; and we had vision of the other lanes so we knew she was alone. "That girl wants to** die**."

Armor pen doesn't work on towers.

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

Enemy Fiora Jungle: "This is so stupid! Stun after stun- I can't do anything!" Us Malzahar Braum Ashe "That's a shame."

I probably shouldn't laugh. But that's just funny.

SociopathFriend1 votes

I laughed, I was the Malzahar :D

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

I'm not even sure where the complaint would come from. Maz has a suppression on ult - not a stun. Ashe has stun on Ult - Fiora can ripost it now (unless I'm mistaken). Braum has it on passive with a giant warning ram. With a mercurial scimitar and good reflexes, she could easily ignore 2 of them. (thougb admittedly, mercury works funny with Braum's passive, since the stacks [and cooldown] are coded as debuffs.)

SociopathFriend1 votes

Welllll she complained loudest when she ganked my lane just as the support Braum was roaming near mid. I silenced her and threw some vision at her before flashing the hell away so she couldn't stick to me. (Had absolutely zero armor and was slowly getting poked down by a Xerath- did not want to mess with that when I only had 1/4 of my health) Braum walked up and ulted to knock her up. He kept her off me while I panicked near my turret for a second than ran up to trigger Braum's passive. And then I ulted her- she did not like that. Put together it probably was about 6 or 7 seconds solid seconds of her not being able to do anything.

She did get a QSS towards the end, damned if I noticed her use it though.

ChaosThief2 votes

TO BE PERFECTLY FAIR...

If the champion changes form, they MIGHT be able to make use of flesheater.

But still, bad idea unless you can swap at will (nid/jayce)

RottedApples2 votes

I missed the (melee only) thing, so i just sold it when i realized it was melee only.

Nameless Voice1 votes

Yup, same. I don't usually read the name of the items, I read the description, and it's not mentioned anywhere there. It's only in the name.

7ha7guy7771 votes

Have yorick on your team. Have yorick ult quinn. Have quinn die. Have quinn ult while "dead". Congrats, you now have a permanent Valor.

Atik L Yar2 votes

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Have yorick on your team. Have yorick ult quinn. Have quinn die. Have quinn ult while "dead". Congrats, you now have a permanent Valor.

Wait...

Is that a real bug?

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

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Have yorick on your team. Have yorick ult quinn. Have quinn die. Have quinn ult while "dead". Congrats, you now have a permanent Valor.

What Is this a real bug?

Doctor Dyment1 votes

I've always had questions like this for someone like Jayce or Gnar. Both have the ability to transform, so if you get say a "melee only" item, does it only work in one form? Or not at all?

Hellioning2 votes

It works in their melee form.

Torea21 votes

its beacause only the passive/active (im not sure which one) are melee only?

Icestar11861 votes

Both are. It's like building Hydra on a ranged champ.

Torea21 votes

but you also still get the life steal and ad from the item itself

Icestar11861 votes

Yes, but why have a Hydra when you could have a Bloodthirster?

Torea21 votes

beacuse hydra may be better for that chamipon? or you may just like the item?

Icestar11861 votes

Um... It's literally impossible for Hydra to be a better pick than Bloodthirster on a ranged champion. Numbers time.

Hydra: 75 AD, 12% lifesteal, 100% base health regen. Passive/active do not proc on ranged attacks. Bloodthirster: 80 AD, 20% lifesteal, bonus lifesteal as a shield.

5 more AD, a shield, and 8% more lifesteal for only 200 more gold. There's no contest there. The lifesteal far outweighs the regen from Hydra, and the shield passive is worth more than enough on its own.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Um... Quinn is melee with her ultimate, so you can't be mad at the Quinn who buys it. Not for buying it, at least. You're free to be mad that the Quinn both: A. is going jungle and B. Is planning on using her ultimate for actual combat.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

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Um... Quinn is melee with her ultimate, so you can't be mad at the Quinn who buys it. Not for buying it, at least. You're free to be mad that the Quinn both: A. is going jungle and B. Is planning on using her ultimate for actual combat.

Quinn jungle works, Valor is used into combat and if you go bruiser, which works, you can even use it to teamfight.

Peel Your ADC2 votes

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Quinn jungle works, Valor is used into combat and if you go bruiser, which works, you can even use it to teamfight.

Works.

You use that word but I don't think it means the same thing as what you want it to mean.

Surviving in the jungle doesn't make a champion 'work' as a jungler. If their only pressure is coming out and being ignored, it isn't 'working'.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

You clearly underestimate the power of a vault.

BakedLotion1 votes

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If I had a win for every time I've seen an ADC take flesheater in Black Market Brawlers, I could leave the god-forsaken mode and be content with the shiny little icons.

Tl;dr- Flesheater is melee only, Mr. Quinn Jungle.

Edit: New game modes make people unable to read.

Mirage blade teleports you AWAY from the target.

Typhoon claws passive is the same name as sated devourer. So don't take both.

The mirage blade description is just weird. It says it teleports you 350 units away from the target. Alright. I attack with 550 attack range and the opposing champion doesn't move. Why do I still move away from the target if I'm already more than 350 units away?

It's just confusing because it sounds like it's teleporting u so that you're 350 units away from the target, aka moving closer.

Eevee In A Jar1 votes

영어 OP. Murca. Cuz we don't want to know how to engrish

Vistha Kai1 votes

Honestly I had no idea Fleasheater is melee only.

On the other hand I never bought it and already got the icon.

Peel Your ADC1 votes

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Honestly I had no idea Fleasheater is melee only.

On the other hand I never bought it and already got the icon.

There are many like you.

Vistha Kai1 votes

I did however buy both Devourer and Typhoon Claws.

Despite passives being unique I was wondering what that means in this case, since they are both so different. Plus, by then the game was decided and all I could do with them were 3 camps in the jungle. :P

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