NO HOPE FOR ME!

RUMBLER J·May 27, 2015·1 votes·1,643 views

Everything goes wrong for me. I can't do anything right. No matter what I do, I always mess up. I can feel everything slipping away from me. I might as well give up on everything I do, especially this game. I'm useless. I can't stand losing, I can't stand being mocked, and I can't even improve. I tried EVERYTHING! Those tips from Facebook, searching tips from Google, even watching some videos from Youtube. NOTHING HELPS!! I can't focus, I can't keep calm for very long, and I can't figure anything out. I'm nothing. I'm a failure. I'm worthless. I'm the biggest disappointment of all time. I don't think anything is going to help me. No amount of encouragement, no hope of trying, not even my spirit is going to change my mind. [SIGHS DEEPLY] My life is over. I give up on this whole thing. I feel like crying right now. [SNIFFLING] I'm such a letdown to everyone.

22 Comments

toxicpanda36May 27, 20151 votes

o.....k.............. u can do good if u try?

H 3May 27, 20151 votes

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o.....k.............. u can do good if u try?

Not everybody can be good with trying. That's just some positive encouragement people spew out and it applies to most but some people will never be good even after years of playing 6 hours a day going over things and various other things.

ModWulf HelhammerMay 27, 20151 votes

No, you definitely get better with practice. It may not be as dramatic as an improvement as you wanted, but over time, you will get better at something if you dedicate the time to working on it

RUMBLER JMay 28, 20151 votes

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No, you definitely get better with practice. It may not be as dramatic as an improvement as you wanted, but over time, you will get better at something if you dedicate the time to working on it

How can I get enough dedication to even have a slightest bit of improvement? I'm so useless. I often lack the patience of all this. I just can't do it.

RUMBLER JMay 28, 20151 votes

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Not everybody can be good with trying. That's just some positive encouragement people spew out and it applies to most but some people will never be good even after years of playing 6 hours a day going over things and various other things.

never be good after YEARS of playing? I can feel my hope of winning, or at least improving, dropping like a 16-ton weight! And my confidence and positive outlook has been officially... DEAD!

MrMeepoMay 27, 20151 votes

Well, certainly not with that attitude. People might take you more seriously if you didn't actually type out "[SIGHS DEEPLY]" and "[SNIFFLING]". Anyway, bot games exist for the sole purpose of practicing and honing your skills. If you say you've read guides, then there isn't much else I can tell you but just remember that it's always better to play it safe than risk dying. Hug the towers like it's a fat poro and poke em away for dear life.

H 3May 27, 20151 votes

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Well, certainly not with that attitude. People might take you more seriously if you didn't actually type out "[SIGHS DEEPLY]" and "[SNIFFLING]". Anyway, bot games exist for the sole purpose of practicing and honing your skills. If you say you've read guides, then there isn't much else I can tell you but just remember that it's always better to play it safe than risk dying. Hug the towers like it's a fat poro and poke em away for dear life.

You can get better but you can peak too or decline or face more weaknesses of yours than another day. Some people just can't get good overall sure better but there are people that play for years and still are Silver and Bronze while trying to get better. Not everybody can be good regardless how much they try. And then the not with that attitude sure can apply to people that give up without trying but not to the people that have tried for extended periods of times and still goof up. Also me saying this isn't based on my experience I just know it isn't as simple as people tend to make it out to be. Some people will be Challenger with the same amount of hours and time studying and learning as somebody who is gold. People have many different factors and learning capabilities and awareness prediction many other things. I'm gonna assume he did try everything and he could try it again but maybe he learns from experience and not watching stuff as much. Or maybe he is expecting a greater climb than that is possible for his character. Also bot games are entirely different maybe its more of a anxiety thing for him/her where in a tight situation he panics and ends up messing up. Then with the mean people they just make him/her feel bad those meanies :(

RUMBLER JMay 28, 20151 votes

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Well, certainly not with that attitude. People might take you more seriously if you didn't actually type out "[SIGHS DEEPLY]" and "[SNIFFLING]". Anyway, bot games exist for the sole purpose of practicing and honing your skills. If you say you've read guides, then there isn't much else I can tell you but just remember that it's always better to play it safe than risk dying. Hug the towers like it's a fat poro and poke em away for dear life.

But I AM serious. I'm so conflicted and confused. If only there's the most detailed list of everything there is possible of what I should do in this game to COMPLETELY, ABSOLUTELY, AND FULLY understand!

OhBoyItsaMegamanMay 27, 20151 votes

Checking out your post history, it looks like you have been talking about your anger for a while now. You may want to ask yourself what you're getting out of this game. There are various aspects of games that people find fun. It can be fun to explore a new place. It can be fun to create something unique. It can be fun to have a wonderful sensory experience (beautiful music, amazing graphics). It can be fun to experience a thrilling story. It can be fun to struggle against something challenging. It can be fun to prove that you're better than others. And it can be fun to just turn off your brain and de-stress by playing something that isn't meant to provide much of a challenge at all.

Are you getting anything out of League? Do you want to have fun showing how you're superior to others, even if it means losing half the time? If games don't feel good unless you're winning, there are other games to play.

I really want to stress this last part. Right now, you're pretty bad at League (I peeked at your match history). You could study. You could practice. You could watch videos and read articles. You could record yourself and watch for your mistakes. You could follow streamers and learn from them. You could get a coach. You could do all of these things and you would continuously get better and better and better at League. But you WILL still lose half of your games. That's not goin' anywhere.

The MMR system keeps track of how you're doing and tries to always put you into evenly matched games. Getting better only means that you will face increasingly skilled opponents, and they will keep beating you just as often as you beat them. So if your goal is to miserably struggle through League trying to improve so that one day you can actually start having fun by always beating everyone, STOP NOW. That's what RPGs are for. League is not for that. You will never get better than EVERYONE else, and even if by some miracle you did manage to, you would still lose about half of your games.

RUMBLER JMay 28, 20151 votes

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Checking out your post history, it looks like you have been talking about your anger for a while now. You may want to ask yourself what you're getting out of this game. There are various aspects of games that people find fun. It can be fun to explore a new place. It can be fun to create something unique. It can be fun to have a wonderful sensory experience (beautiful music, amazing graphics). It can be fun to experience a thrilling story. It can be fun to struggle against something challenging. It can be fun to prove that you're better than others. And it can be fun to just turn off your brain and de-stress by playing something that isn't meant to provide much of a challenge at all.

Are you getting anything out of League? Do you want to have fun showing how you're superior to others, even if it means losing half the time? If games don't feel good unless you're winning, there are other games to play.

I really want to stress this last part. Right now, you're pretty bad at League (I peeked at your match history). You could study. You could practice. You could watch videos and read articles. You could record yourself and watch for your mistakes. You could follow streamers and learn from them. You could get a coach. You could do all of these things and you would continuously get better and better and better at League. But you WILL still lose half of your games. That's not goin' anywhere.

The MMR system keeps track of how you're doing and tries to always put you into evenly matched games. Getting better only means that you will face increasingly skilled opponents, and they will keep beating you just as often as you beat them. So if your goal is to miserably struggle through League trying to improve so that one day you can actually start having fun by always beating everyone, STOP NOW. That's what RPGs are for. League is not for that. You will never get better than EVERYONE else, and even if by some miracle you did manage to, you would still lose about half of your games.

MMR system? What's the MMR system? Even with all of this, I STILL won't be able to get through it. Miserably struggle through it? Why should I stop? What there is to learn? Is there more than just killing enemy champions and destroying their turrets, or even CS?

OhBoyItsaMegamanMay 28, 20151 votes

MMR is Matchmaking Rating. Your account has a rating that determines how good you appear to be. It's not based on your kills and deaths, just your wins and losses. Each time your win, your MMR goes up a little (and it goes up a little more if you defeated higher MMR opponents). Each time you lose, your MMR goes down a little (and it goes down a little more if you lost to lower MMR opponents). When you queue up, the matchmaking system tries to put you in a game with 9 other people who all have about the same MMR. After it has tracked you for a while, you should start to see about a 50/50 chance of winning games, because all the other people in your game are all the same skill level.

Right now, you're being put into games where everyone is fairly bad. If you improve a lot, you will win games easily. But those wins will make your MMR go up. You'll then start to show up in games where everyone is decent. You'll be back to winning 50/50. If you improve some more, you'll win games easily and your MMR will go up again, and being put in games where everyone is great means you're back to 50/50 again.

There is TONS to learn about this game. It is so much more than just killing enemy champions and killing turrets and getting cs. Check out the UNSW LoL Soc series of videos, or at least Lecture #1. They're like actual college lectures. They're very long videos but you'll start to see what I mean about all the things you didn't even know that you could learn.

Here's the catch though. Knowing that you'll never be able to just reliably always win, are you really going to want to put that much effort into improving? I kind of like playing Smash Bros. I'm terrible at it. I don't know how to do anything but jump around and do random moves. I understand that there is a whole enormous complex strategic world of combos and counters and crazy moves, but I don't care to learn it. I'll always be garbage at Smash Bros and I'll always struggle to win against other bad players like myself and I'll never stand a chance against a good player. I'm cool with that. Given the choice between training hard and becoming good or goofing off and remaining bad, I choose to remain bad. You can do the same with League if you want. You can continue to just run around the map fighting people and taking towers and not understanding that there's a whole complex map-wide strategy behind it all. It's up to you. What will make you happier?

RUMBLER JMay 28, 20151 votes

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MMR is Matchmaking Rating. Your account has a rating that determines how good you appear to be. It's not based on your kills and deaths, just your wins and losses. Each time your win, your MMR goes up a little (and it goes up a little more if you defeated higher MMR opponents). Each time you lose, your MMR goes down a little (and it goes down a little more if you lost to lower MMR opponents). When you queue up, the matchmaking system tries to put you in a game with 9 other people who all have about the same MMR. After it has tracked you for a while, you should start to see about a 50/50 chance of winning games, because all the other people in your game are all the same skill level.

Right now, you're being put into games where everyone is fairly bad. If you improve a lot, you will win games easily. But those wins will make your MMR go up. You'll then start to show up in games where everyone is decent. You'll be back to winning 50/50. If you improve some more, you'll win games easily and your MMR will go up again, and being put in games where everyone is great means you're back to 50/50 again.

There is TONS to learn about this game. It is so much more than just killing enemy champions and killing turrets and getting cs. Check out the UNSW LoL Soc series of videos, or at least Lecture #1. They're like actual college lectures. They're very long videos but you'll start to see what I mean about all the things you didn't even know that you could learn.

Here's the catch though. Knowing that you'll never be able to just reliably always win, are you really going to want to put that much effort into improving? I kind of like playing Smash Bros. I'm terrible at it. I don't know how to do anything but jump around and do random moves. I understand that there is a whole enormous complex strategic world of combos and counters and crazy moves, but I don't care to learn it. I'll always be garbage at Smash Bros and I'll always struggle to win against other bad players like myself and I'll never stand a chance against a good player. I'm cool with that. Given the choice between training hard and becoming good or goofing off and remaining bad, I choose to remain bad. You can do the same with League if you want. You can continue to just run around the map fighting people and taking towers and not understanding that there's a whole complex map-wide strategy behind it all. It's up to you. What will make you happier?

I'm pretty sure nothing will make me happier. How can you see my MMR rating? How can I see my own MMR? Is there a website for that?

OhBoyItsaMegamanMay 28, 20151 votes

Why do you want to see your MMR? Do you want to get an idea of how relatively good or bad you are at LoL? Then play ranked. That's what ranked is for.

You have 2 different MMRs on your account. Both are hidden. One MMR is used for ranked, and the other is used for normal blind, normal draft, and Team Builder. There are some sites like na.op.gg that will give you an estimate of what they think your ranked MMR is, using their own formula rather that Riot's secret formula. I do not know of any site that will calculate your normal MMR, only ranked.

That's because you're not supposed to be concerned about your normal MMR. Normals are for playing around for fun, trying new champions, goofing off with strange builds and teams, etc. If you want some indication of how good or bad you are, you need to go to ranked instead of fretting about your normal MMR.

But really, seriously, don't go into ranked unless you are prepared for disappointment. You seem like someone who gets pretty broken up about losing, and about not being skilled enough to do well. Your ranked MMR will start off at the average score, which means you would be playing against people who are much better than you. You would probably lose about 80-90% of your games until your ranked MMR is as low as your normal MMR. I don't think you would find that fun.

Actually I don't know if you find LoL fun at all. LoL is a PvP game. You play against other players and you're going to lose. Often. If losing upsets you this much to the point where you feel worthless, don't play it! Find a nice MMO or something. Play against AI enemies that are designed to lose. It is a valid way to enjoy video gaming. There is nothing wrong with it.

RUMBLER JMay 28, 20151 votes

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Why do you want to see your MMR? Do you want to get an idea of how relatively good or bad you are at LoL? Then play ranked. That's what ranked is for.

You have 2 different MMRs on your account. Both are hidden. One MMR is used for ranked, and the other is used for normal blind, normal draft, and Team Builder. There are some sites like na.op.gg that will give you an estimate of what they think your ranked MMR is, using their own formula rather that Riot's secret formula. I do not know of any site that will calculate your normal MMR, only ranked.

That's because you're not supposed to be concerned about your normal MMR. Normals are for playing around for fun, trying new champions, goofing off with strange builds and teams, etc. If you want some indication of how good or bad you are, you need to go to ranked instead of fretting about your normal MMR.

But really, seriously, don't go into ranked unless you are prepared for disappointment. You seem like someone who gets pretty broken up about losing, and about not being skilled enough to do well. Your ranked MMR will start off at the average score, which means you would be playing against people who are much better than you. You would probably lose about 80-90% of your games until your ranked MMR is as low as your normal MMR. I don't think you would find that fun.

Actually I don't know if you find LoL fun at all. LoL is a PvP game. You play against other players and you're going to lose. Often. If losing upsets you this much to the point where you feel worthless, don't play it! Find a nice MMO or something. Play against AI enemies that are designed to lose. It is a valid way to enjoy video gaming. There is nothing wrong with it.

Wait a minute! Why should I not be concerned about my MMR? Why should I be prepared for disappointment? I'm WAY PAST disappointed! Why would I lose often? IT MAKES NO SENSE! Broken up about losing? More like SHATTERED! Shattered into a million pieces! Any more comments like that, then I WILL NEVER ENJOY ANYTHING EVER AGAIN! I'LL NEVER WIN ANOTHER MATCH AGAIN!! I'll never be a pro at this rate!

OhBoyItsaMegamanMay 28, 20151 votes

You shouldn't be concerned about your normal MMR. That's because normal games aren't meant to be tracked. They are not likely to be fair games because there are no restrictions on who is allowed to queue up together.

You should prepare for disappointment if you start playing ranked because you would be put into games where most or all of the players are much better than you. That will result in your team losing most of the time for the first 30-40 games, most likely.

I said "You're going to lose. Often." because everyone who plays this game loses often. No exceptions. Master players lose often. Challenger players lose often. You mentioned wanting to be a pro? Pros lose often. Go look at Lemonnation's match history. Or look at Wildturtle's. Or XiaoWeiXiao's. They all lose often. Everyone who plays this, even pros, lose often... because they're consistently forced to play against people who are just as good as they are, making the game about a 50/50 chance.

The pros lost thousands of games to get where they are. If losing games shatters you into a million pieces, you weren't meant to be a pro gamer. Pros have to love losing because losing is how you learn.

Arya StarckMay 28, 20151 votes

-gives you a hug- <3!!

Dangerous ManMay 28, 20151 votes

Play Minecraft I hate it personally but it seems like what you should do. If you want to continue League, it took me less then a month (20-30 days) to understand and do stuff right. It seems like you are new...play Heimerdinger all you have to do is AFK lol

RUMBLER JMay 28, 20151 votes

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Play Minecraft I hate it personally but it seems like what you should do. If you want to continue League, it took me less then a month (20-30 days) to understand and do stuff right. It seems like you are new...play Heimerdinger all you have to do is AFK lol

NEW?! I have been playing this for a few months. I'm on level 30. But I don't have enough champs to play ranked. I try to play some normals to get more IP, but I got more and more defeats! My confidence level is dropping! I'll never be that good. It's hopeless. ABSOLUTELY HOPELESS!

tomtaritimtom2May 28, 20151 votes

Don't play LoL :p Alistar

GG JUNGLE AFKMay 28, 20151 votes

get rekt

RUMBLER JMay 28, 20151 votes

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get rekt

GET REKT?! NOT HELPING!

RUMBLER JMay 28, 20151 votes

Everyone loses often? Even pros, experts, and master of this game lose often? How can anyone learn after they lose? Pros have to LOVE losing? How is that possible? How can I deal with losing? It hardly seems possible.