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Biggest dilemma I have ever had!

RUMBLER J··2 votes·1,472 views

So, I finally reached level 30. I thought I was ready to play ranked battles, but I forgot to read the fine print. I need to get at least 16 champs in order to play ranked, and I'm not even close of that. I'm gonna need a boatload of IP in order to get the 16 champs I need. A HUGE BOATLOAD OF IP!

I just owned Master Yi a couple of days ago, so that makes it 7 now. I thought I did so well the first time, but it gets harder and harder. Whoever thought Master Yi was easy to deal with is out of their minds! I'm in such of a depressed mood. I should be very, very, very, VERY angry about this HUGE dilemma of mine, but instead I'm depressed.

I need advice. My personal confidence has definitely gone out the window. I should play to improve, but instead I get worse and worse. Most battles, I always end up having the most deaths on my team, and other teammates are complaining. That hurts my soul and my spirit. I should concentrate, but I can't. Most people perform better than me. In fact, EVERYBODY'S did better than me. I'll never be that good. I'll never be skillful enough. Makes me think I should give up on this whole thing, but getting 16 champs in order to play ranked is my big goal.

[sighs deeply][sniffling] I'm so sad. I need some big advice, the biggest advice possible. If only there's a way somebody could put all this advice into 1 big video in order to understand my biggest dilemma of all. What's the point of trying? There's just no point. Can anyone please help me? [crying] Please? I'm so unhappy. I'm so unskillful. And most of all, I'm so unlucky! [wailing]

Please, have a heart to help me. I'm not demanding this. I'm not even angry at this at all. I'm just... desperate... and pathetic.

25 Comments

Wicked Odie2 votes

I'm no pro, but I have been climbing the ranks slowly over the past little while, and I still consider myself quite average. But I'll do my best to help ya out.

Things I like to do while playing is to make sure I never get angry. I dont even have all chat on. If someone makes a stupid comment I ignore it. I do everything in my power not to let them have a reaction out of me. I play my game, and I only focus on my game. I will call shots here and there if my team is really crap and they need the direction, but that's it.

every time I back and I have extra gold, i buy some wards. I make sure I always have 1 pink down at all times and I'll do my best to keep other wards up when I can. Vision is key and gives you an advantage over the enemy.

Don't die for nothing. If you're at yoru turret with half health and the enemy is going to dive you, go back. Dont sit there and let them dive you. If there are 3 people attacking the turret and you're alone, leave. Dont die for that turret, it's not worth it. You're no good to your team dead. Dont 1v1 someone if you know you're going to lose. Dont try to save your teammate if hes just going to die, you'll most likely end up dying too. Unless of course you know you can secure the kill and get out safe.

While it is a team game, it's all about self improvement. Get better at your game, and you'll get better results. Practice things like last hitting minions, placing wards, roaming, ganking. It's okay to be selfish and KS. :P

Enjoy the game and dont get upset. If you go on a tilt, walk away, do something else, clear your head.

RUMBLER J1 votes

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I'm no pro, but I have been climbing the ranks slowly over the past little while, and I still consider myself quite average. But I'll do my best to help ya out.

Things I like to do while playing is to make sure I never get angry. I dont even have all chat on. If someone makes a stupid comment I ignore it. I do everything in my power not to let them have a reaction out of me. I play my game, and I only focus on my game. I will call shots here and there if my team is really crap and they need the direction, but that's it.

every time I back and I have extra gold, i buy some wards. I make sure I always have 1 pink down at all times and I'll do my best to keep other wards up when I can. Vision is key and gives you an advantage over the enemy.

Don't die for nothing. If you're at yoru turret with half health and the enemy is going to dive you, go back. Dont sit there and let them dive you. If there are 3 people attacking the turret and you're alone, leave. Dont die for that turret, it's not worth it. You're no good to your team dead. Dont 1v1 someone if you know you're going to lose. Dont try to save your teammate if hes just going to die, you'll most likely end up dying too. Unless of course you know you can secure the kill and get out safe.

While it is a team game, it's all about self improvement. Get better at your game, and you'll get better results. Practice things like last hitting minions, placing wards, roaming, ganking. It's okay to be selfish and KS. :P

Enjoy the game and dont get upset. If you go on a tilt, walk away, do something else, clear your head.

How can I even ignore stupid comments on how I do? How can I focus for very long? I often lack the patience to get completely focused.

Commit Sudoku2 votes

Dude idk what your expectations are for ranked but even if you did have 16 champions I would expect low bronze for you looking at your match history. I would focus more on building up your skills mechanically and decision making.

Your item builds are ineffecient You aren't good at farming You have a negative K/D in every normal game (so you are a hard feeder) You don't even have proper rune pages

It honestly appears you just went through the motions in bot games and never really learned anything up to this point. You probably don't have any friends who play nor have you played with anyone with experience to tell you what you should be doing. You just do and it seems pretty habitual. You gotta practice these things instead of literally doing the same thing every game.

If you are expecting to actually get anywhere in ranked I would not rush into because you are in my opinion playing at a solid Bronze 5 level. So don't rush into it and be more disappointing, but if you wanted to just get ranked and go from there by all means go for it will be a long time until you are able to climb likely though. Sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, but I am just being honest in what I think. You aren't a good player give yourself time to get better.

TL;DR you have been playing the game "poorly" without anyone telling you how to improve and it has created bad habits, ask for actual help.

RUMBLER J1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Left for Zed,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=2UclY8vc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-05-13T02:04:08.685+0000)

Dude idk what your expectations are for ranked but even if you did have 16 champions I would expect low bronze for you looking at your match history. I would focus more on building up your skills mechanically and decision making.

Your item builds are ineffecient You aren't good at farming You have a negative K/D in every normal game (so you are a hard feeder) You don't even have proper rune pages

It honestly appears you just went through the motions in bot games and never really learned anything up to this point. You probably don't have any friends who play nor have you played with anyone with experience to tell you what you should be doing. You just do and it seems pretty habitual. You gotta practice these things instead of literally doing the same thing every game.

If you are expecting to actually get anywhere in ranked I would not rush into because you are in my opinion playing at a solid Bronze 5 level. So don't rush into it and be more disappointing, but if you wanted to just get ranked and go from there by all means go for it will be a long time until you are able to climb likely though. Sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, but I am just being honest in what I think. You aren't a good player give yourself time to get better.

TL;DR you have been playing the game "poorly" without anyone telling you how to improve and it has created bad habits, ask for actual help.

How can I build up my skills mechanically? How can I focus of my decision making? Why are my item builds inefficient? Why am I not good at farming? Why do I have a negative K/D ratio? Why don't I have proper rune pages? Which item builds are efficient for each champion I own? Which proper rune pages should I go for? I need a lot of details to fully understand what I'm doing. And why shouldn't I rush about all of this?

Commit Sudoku1 votes

[{quoted}](name=RUMBLER J,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=2UclY8vc,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-05-13T03:26:05.341+0000)

How can I build up my skills mechanically? How can I focus of my decision making? Why are my item builds inefficient? Why am I not good at farming? Why do I have a negative K/D ratio? Why don't I have proper rune pages? Which item builds are efficient for each champion I own? Which proper rune pages should I go for? I need a lot of details to fully understand what I'm doing. And why shouldn't I rush about all of this?

Practice man I played 1000 games before I touched rank I still wasn't good and I was placed in silver don't expect to pick up on everything within 10 games or so it is going to take a lot of games to gain the experience you will want. Every time you play a game in normals focus on a mechanic this game I am going to buy a ward everytime I base, or I am going for 180 cs @ 20min, etc. Take every game as a learning experience take notes on what you could have done better and apply them for the next game.

RUMBLER J1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Left for Zed,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=2UclY8vc,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2015-05-13T03:39:15.215+0000)

Practice man I played 1000 games before I touched rank I still wasn't good and I was placed in silver don't expect to pick up on everything within 10 games or so it is going to take a lot of games to gain the experience you will want. Every time you play a game in normals focus on a mechanic this game I am going to buy a ward everytime I base, or I am going for 180 cs @ 20min, etc. Take every game as a learning experience take notes on what you could have done better and apply them for the next game.

How can of I focus on a mechanic? I'm so confused.

rampaging poet1 votes

By "focus on a mechanic," he means pick one thing (last-hitting, dodging skillshots, landing skillshots, etc.) and try to focus on getting better at it over a few games. You're at the level where improving "mechanics" - the literal point-and-click part - could seriously improve your overall gameplay. For example, if you take some time to practice last-hitting minions you'll get more gold in each game than if you don't learn to do that, which helps you get ahead of your opponents and stay ahead.

Leeroy Jenkenz2 votes
  1. Put some music on that you enjoy.
  2. /mute all as soon as you loud in.
  3. Play your game.
  4. Focus on farming, not dying, getting objectives, and warding.
  5. Learn from every single mistake you make. Analyze why it didn't work and correct it.
  6. Relax, it's a game. Have fun.
  7. Watch youtube, LCS, Twitch streamers to LEARN THE GAME.
  8. Never rage and don't blame your team. If everything is your fault then you can fix it ( even if it isn't).
RUMBLER J1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Leeroy Jenkenz,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=2UclY8vc,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-05-13T03:46:55.508+0000)

  1. Put some music on that you enjoy.
  2. /mute all as soon as you loud in.
  3. Play your game.
  4. Focus on farming, not dying, getting objectives, and warding.
  5. Learn from every single mistake you make. Analyze why it didn't work and correct it.
  6. Relax, it's a game. Have fun.
  7. Watch youtube, LCS, Twitch streamers to LEARN THE GAME.
  8. Never rage and don't blame your team. If everything is your fault then you can fix it ( even if it isn't).

How can I learn what mistakes I've made? Analyze? My brain is hurting right now!

rampaging poet1 votes

Exactly! Analyze. For example, when you get killed think about how it happened and what you could have done to avoid it. Maybe you jumped into a fight your team wasn't ready for. Maybe you need to build another defensive item. Maybe you need to build more offensive items to burst someone down quicker. Whatever it is that you think got you killed, try not to do it again next time.

Watch91 votes

Giving up defies the whole purpose of getting to level 30 and playing ranked.

BTW, my advice is to just not read chat. Focus on your gameplay and no one else's. All that matters is how you can develop as a player. OR, you can just get a friend to play with you :D

Shroom Junkie1 votes

Just play a ton of normals until you get that buttload of IP. Play free champs a ton, test out every champion and see what you like, then save for those champs. Even if you have 16 champs, unless you're good at them you might as well not play Ranked.

RUMBLER J1 votes

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Just play a ton of normals until you get that buttload of IP. Play free champs a ton, test out every champion and see what you like, then save for those champs. Even if you have 16 champs, unless you're good at them you might as well not play Ranked.

If only all of this was THAT easy. [sighs deeply]

Shroom Junkie1 votes

[{quoted}](name=RUMBLER J,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=2UclY8vc,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-05-13T03:28:04.211+0000)

If only all of this was THAT easy. [sighs deeply]

Well, if you need a boost, you can buy enough RP for the Champions pack. Its a great start and you get most of the 450 and 1350 champs, plus I think one or two of the 3150.

rampaging poet1 votes

I have to agree with Left For Zed: you just need more PVP practice and you aren't building right at all.

I see you tend to build a lot of mana regen, like getting a Chalice of Harmony on Nasus. To me that suggests you're spamming spells off cooldown without making them count. Nasus runs OOM really quickly if you use your W and E all the time, so the trick is not to use them all the time. Use W when you need to run. Use E when you need to push the minion wave off your turret quickly. Use both together when you're ready to go in for the kill. Otherwise you want to save them for a better oppurtnity so you don't run out of mana so quickly.

Similarly, I see you built a Morellonomicon on Warwick. Warwick only has one ability that scales with ability power. He likes the cooldown reduction, but after the early game you won't really be running out of mana with him. That means most of the stats it gives you are wasted. If you really wanted that CDR, a Nashor's Tooth would have been a better (though slightly more expensive) choice. The ability power is still mostly wasted, but it provides attack speed, on-hit magic damage, and the CDR you wanted. You could also have gone for a tank items like Spirit Visage (10% CDR and +20% to all your healing) and Frozen Heart (20% CDR and reduce enemy attack speed).

Practice some more to save up IP for more champions. Look at build guides on the net to get a better idea what to build. Sites like Mobafire have collections of guides and make it easy to see how champion abilities scale with various stats. You don't have to follow a guide to the letter, but think about what your champion does and how the different items will help you.

EDIT: Feel free to add me in-game. I'm not exactly a great player, but I wouldn't mind playing a few games with you if you'd like.

RUMBLER J1 votes

[{quoted}](name=rampaging poet,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=2UclY8vc,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-05-13T03:26:50.354+0000)

I have to agree with Left For Zed: you just need more PVP practice and you aren't building right at all.

I see you tend to build a lot of mana regen, like getting a Chalice of Harmony on Nasus. To me that suggests you're spamming spells off cooldown without making them count. Nasus runs OOM really quickly if you use your W and E all the time, so the trick is not to use them all the time. Use W when you need to run. Use E when you need to push the minion wave off your turret quickly. Use both together when you're ready to go in for the kill. Otherwise you want to save them for a better oppurtnity so you don't run out of mana so quickly.

Similarly, I see you built a Morellonomicon on Warwick. Warwick only has one ability that scales with ability power. He likes the cooldown reduction, but after the early game you won't really be running out of mana with him. That means most of the stats it gives you are wasted. If you really wanted that CDR, a Nashor's Tooth would have been a better (though slightly more expensive) choice. The ability power is still mostly wasted, but it provides attack speed, on-hit magic damage, and the CDR you wanted. You could also have gone for a tank items like Spirit Visage (10% CDR and +20% to all your healing) and Frozen Heart (20% CDR and reduce enemy attack speed).

Practice some more to save up IP for more champions. Look at build guides on the net to get a better idea what to build. Sites like Mobafire have collections of guides and make it easy to see how champion abilities scale with various stats. You don't have to follow a guide to the letter, but think about what your champion does and how the different items will help you.

EDIT: Feel free to add me in-game. I'm not exactly a great player, but I wouldn't mind playing a few games with you if you'd like.

Nasus runs OOM very quickly? Not use his W and E all the time? Well, when's the right time?

Go for Nashor's Tooth on WW? Tank Items on WW? All of this info is so conflicted!

rampaging poet1 votes

RE: Nasus. Like I said, wait to use W until you need to escape someone (they are in your face and you don't want to fight them because they deal more damage than you) and E when you need to clear the enemy minion wave quickly. Use both together to maximize damage when you go in for the kill. Don't go in for the kill until you're sure you can out-damage the enemy, which generally happens when you have 200+ bonus damage on your Q and get a Sheen.

My advice for building Warwick focused on CDR. I assumed that's why you bought Morellomonicon in the game I saw on LoLKing where you built that on him. Nashor's Tooth actually isn't a grat item on Warwick, but it's a better item than Morellonomicon because it plays to his strengths better. You obviously wanted a damage item that gave CDR, and for Warwick Nashor's Tooth is a better fit for that niche than Morellonomicon is. You were also many, many kills ahead so building tank didn't make sense.

In general, I would build a Spirit Visage to give Warwick CDR because it also provides good magic resist (you usually need at least one MR item) and it boosts his healing and lifesteal by 20% with its unique passive. Warwick is a "drain tank" so he soaks up a lot of damage by healing while he deals sustained damage over time to one target. Anything that increases his sustained DPS (attack speed, attack damage, on-hit damage) is good, as is anything that increases his ability to heal.

A full Warwick build would be something like Enchantment: Devourer (or Warrior), Blade of the Ruined King, Wit's End, Spirit Visage, Frozen Heart, and your choice of boots. That provides good damage, good attack speed, extra lifesteal, full or near-full CDR, and some tankiness so you don't die to burst damage before you can hurt people. it also gives you the Blade of the Ruined King active ability to slow enemies so you can chase or escape them easier. There are probably better builds on Mobafire or wherever, but that's a quick example of picking items that suit what the champion needs to do.

League of Legends is a complicated game. Some of the advice you'll receive is "conflicted" because it's situational. For example, there is no one true item build for each champion that must be followed perfectly because every game is different. There are items that are generally good on certain champions because they play to those champion's strengths. There are items that are sometimes good on certain champions depending on the enemy team. There are items that you will pretty much never buy on some champions because they just don't provide useful stats. When you plan to play a champion, take a moment to think about what that champion does for the team and which stats they need to do it. Build items that give those stats.

You seem to be getting overwhelmed by all the options right now (with all the advice you;re getting, not itemization in particular). I would suggest taking one champion you like and practising with them for awhile. Go to Mobafire and look up a build guide for them. It will give you a starting point for what kind of items you should build on that champion and explain why. Feel free to experiment, but at least compare the items more experienced players recommend to the items you usually build. The rest is just practice. You will get better at both mechanical things like last-hitting and dodging skillshots and strategic decisions like when to go for dragon and when to push into their base with time. You'll get a better feel for who is and isn't a threat to you each game with time.

There's a reason you need 16 champions to play ranked. In addition to the rare possibility of not having enough after everyone else has picked and banned, making sure you have more champions ensures you take a little more time to learn before jumping into ranked. That's all there is to it. Practice, practice, practice.

Trídent1 votes

First things first, look up guide about your champions and build accordingly

Don't build random stuff on champions

RUMBLER J1 votes

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First things first, look up guide about your champions and build accordingly

How can I build accordingly?

Trídent2 votes

Follow the build guide

RUMBLER J1 votes

All these tips are kind of complicated for me. It led me with so many conflicts, and it's making my brain hurt! Follow up questions, how can a support not get kills? When's the right time to attack on enemies? What does an ADC do?

Which build guides are perfect for WW, Nasus, Volibear, Rengar, Alistar, and Renekton? Those are the champs that I use the most. Which items should I start with? If only there simple solutions on what I should do. All of this is starting to give me a MAJOR BRAIN CRAMP!

Trídent2 votes

First off, just calm down

A support can not get kills by dealing damage, but then allowing the adc or other teammate to last hit and take the kill. They just try their best not to land the killing blow, unless the champion is able to escape easily. Search up a guide about lane poking and trading for your question "When's the right time to attack on enemies?" When your team groups up, it depends on your role. If you are a heavy initiator, the time is when your team is ready and then you initiate. If you are a carry, you wait for your team to initiate then you focus the enemy squishes, if in range.

Use a site and find the top rated build guide. Mobafire is a site I use

rampaging poet1 votes

An ADC is a champion (almost always a Marksman) that focuses on dealing sustained damage with auto-attacks in order to take objectives (turrets, inhibitors, Dragon, etc) and defeat tanks. Early in the game they focus on farming minions (or getting kills if they can) to get the gold they need for their powerful but expensive items. ADCs want to buy items with any of attack damage, attack speed, and critical hit chance with as little defence as possible.

In teamfights, the ADCs job is to stay safe and deal damage to the squishiest target within their reach. Usually that will end up being either a Fighter or Tank skirmishing with your front line or an Assassin that jumped past your front line to try to kill your team's ADC or mage/assassin. After a successful teamfight, the ADC should move with any surviving team members to take an enemy tower or one of the two Epic Monsters (Dragon and Baron) because their high damage and attack speed let them destroy/kill those things faster than anyone else on the team.

You've asked for specific build guides in a few posts. Here's a link to Mobafire, which has guides for every champion: http://www.mobafire.com/ . Guides are sorted by popularity, so good guides tend to rise to the top. Search for a champion on that site and read the top guide or two before you play a champion. Skip guides that say they're for a position you're not playing: if you're playing Volibear as a Support you can skip down the list until you see a guide that says it's for Volibear Support.

RUMBLER J1 votes

I don't know what to do. Which guides work the best for me? Focus on last hits? Deal damage with the squishiest target? What do I do? WHAT DO I DO?! [PANTING HEAVILY] I'M STARTING TO PANIC! I'M STARTING TO PANIC!!!

rampaging poet1 votes

I think you can continue to have fun with the game by not worrying about it so much. Practice against real people, and you will eventually improve. We can't give you specific advice because we haven't seen you play. We don't know exactly what mistakes you're making. People are just guessing based on publicly-available information about your match history.

I stand by my offer to play a few games with you to help walk you through things. Seeing you play would definitely help me help you.

As for specific build guides, I've picked a few from Mobafire based on champions you've been playing recently. Start by looking at the "cheat sheets" at the top of the guides. They give you a good set of items to look at buying and suggested runes. You don't have to run with the exact runes they say, but try to run something similar if you've got runes like that. As a Level 30 player you definitely want to start picking up Tier 3 runes for your favourite champions if you haven't already. That will make it take longer to get enough champions for ranked, but you need decent runes before you play ranked anyway.

For Nasus top: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/unkillable-nasus-193824 For Alistar : http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/support-top-mid-the-encyclopedia-of-cow-361331 (that guide covers a few roles - you might want to focus on the Support section because it looks like that's how you play him). For Renekton: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/dominating-top-lane-in-depth-guide-patch-5-8-update-404631 For Master Yi Jungle: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/jungle-yi-monster-carry-382042 For Master Yi in lane: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/ad-mid-master-yi-master-of-destruction-338083

I haven't read these guides in-depth, but the suggested items look decent and I see you've played these champions recently.

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