how the fk do you carry high gold/low plat

BluePolarizer·Apr 30, 2015·2 votes·2,466 views

HOW?

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1809313417/213933916?tab=overview

HOW?

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1809263179/213933916?tab=overview

HOW???

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1808189136/213933916?tab=overview

literally every single game I'm running around the jungle and all lanes, trying to snowball all lanes. Minute I leave, they die. Every skirmish I'm not in, they get wiped. Every teamfight, ADC goes to fucking farm wolves or top alone and results in team getting aced.

Yeah, play to improve. I fucking steal Baron, make calls to take strategic dragons, ward the map as much as a support, gank like crazy, keep up in farm and kill enemy carries. How can I improve on that? My mechanics are at their limit. I can't possibly get better mechanics than stealing baron from a Lee Sin. I just can't. How do I get better strategy when my ADC goes to fucking farm top in a crucial teamfight for enemy Nexus? How do I carry this awful elo?

And not just that. The toxicity is real. Blame for everyone except themselves when they're feeding like mad. Spamming GG ff 20 if they die once in lane. Intent feeders. Rage AFKers. How the fk can you possibly get past this cesspool?

21 Comments

FredartApr 30, 20152 votes

So, you're blaming the marksman for going elsewhere to farm when they weren't able to get gold in the group?

BluePolarizerApr 30, 20151 votes

it was a late game battle for the ENEMY NEXUS.

he had 17k gold. our tanks were moving into position to engage. And he goes to farm just as the tanks engage. Ok lol. I don't know about you but I value enemy Nexus just a bit more than getting more gold onto an ADC with 17k gold.

oh hell why the fk am I arguing with a bronze 3 that's dropping.

DedriusMay 1, 20152 votes

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And not just that. The toxicity is real. Blame for everyone except themselves when they're feeding like mad. Spamming GG ff 20 if they die once in lane. Intent feeders. Rage AFKers. How the fk can you possibly get past this cesspool?

It seems like you are doing exactly what you are complaining about by blaming everyone else.

And judging by your attitude you seem perfect for plat.

Astrox3Apr 30, 20151 votes

If you want to enjoy the game, stop caring about your lp. Play for fun, do not troll, but do not think you can get anywhere in the ranked system, it will just upset you.

BluePolarizerApr 30, 20151 votes

Am I trolling when I go 17-5-10 Nocturne while the rest of my team feeds like mad? Or maybe when I'm 10-7-11 Hecarim?

Like holy shit, I have not had a single good game, win or lose, for days. Every time some trash moron either makes a stupid late game throw like farm wolves as ADC when already full slotted, or we never had a chance, every lane opens a buffet with Graves or Cait feeding a Vayne and there's nothing I can do.

colesyMay 1, 20151 votes

completely ignore your KDA.

first, you're playing nocturne when there's better junglers, and secondly, those billion kills you got could be going to your actual damage carries who need gold more than you do. think about it, if you initiate a fight as a tank and get popped but the other team blow their cds and your team cleans them up, that's a win, right? and how will they do that if they're deprived of kills?

BluePolarizerMay 1, 20151 votes

I play what I want in solo queue. Also look at the assists; nobody has 17 assists, so you can't argue that I was stealing kills from carries. They were just never there to get any kills or assists.

Gym Leader YakiApr 30, 20151 votes

Just start by calming down. You seem to be huffing and puffing. Just take it as "it's just another game", as Sp4zie said in one of his videos. No matter win or loose, stay positive, you have no idea just how powerful positive reinforcements can be on your teammates.

So many games we were close to loosing and we had 0 teamfighting potential, but just with encouragements and constant support WE TURNED IT AROUND. So instead of pointing fingers or insults like I'm reading in your comment above, try being positive and you'll see :P

BluePolarizerApr 30, 20151 votes

I stayed positive until the 3rd loss in a row over 3 days. Its just unreal. I thought it was tilt so I quit for a day, then boom, lose again.

junglerboy16Apr 30, 20151 votes

wait... you're upset over just 3 losses? Your expectations for how ranked works are way off. You're going to run into stretches where you lose several matches in a row (a lot of people lose 3-4 in a row during 1 day). Tilt or not, you need to take a breather and get your head in the right place. Work on mechanics and shot calling and keep in mind that being in gold/plat is already higher rank than about 60-70% of players. It may just be that you simply aren't good enough to get any higher at this point in time and just need more practice. It could also be that you were unlucky and got matched with a bunch of players who just came off lucky winning streaks that spiked their MMR (which does happen).

BluePolarizerApr 30, 20151 votes

I got demoted back to gold 2 from that Nocturne loss.

I don't know how to get better. I stole baron from Lee Sin, that's the limits my hands and ping allow me to do. I'm not aware of how to get better at jungle mechanics if I'm going 17-5-10 and stealing barons from Lee Sin then killing his team, and having the strategy to know the enemy team was baroning and we could contest, because there's nothing I can do to stop my ADC from leaving to go farming top in a battle for enemy Nexus right as our tanks engage.

junglerboy16May 1, 20151 votes

I don't doubt you as a player are mechanically sound (your CS and KDA show that pretty well) and to me it looks more like you just got unlucky with your allies. That first match was incredibly close, but in the end it looks like it mostly came down to who scaled hardest and who made the first slip up (which was apparently your ADC farming instead of fighting). The second match looks more like you were stuck with several very clueless allies (like Shen built FH and Janna built full tank), which is just dumb luck, but you team was also down in gold almost the whole match. The third match was up and down for both of your teams by the looks of the stats.

The thing I'd point out that is similar the second two is that you as the tank on your team took a lot of the kills. That would be fine except it appears that your ADC in each of those games was very behind (not necessarily your fault, but giving them more kills could give you an advantage).

I'd say in the end, you just got seriously unlucky, between completely ignorant allies and enemy teams that snowballed just right, you as a singular player just couldn't have hard carried any of those since you weren't far enough ahead at any point to do so on your own.

BluePolarizerMay 1, 20151 votes

I let Fizz have basically every kill in that Hecarim game. Bot was losing hard early on so me and Fizz tried to snowball them as hard as possible with non-stop ganks.

It doesn't work. None of it matters when you have a Lucian that thinks he can melee against a super fed Nocturne alone. None of it matters when your 1-5 Shen who built Frozen Heart taunts enemy tanks with BoRK and gets melted instead of taunting the enemy ADC. At the 6 minute mark, enemy ADC has 50% more gold than our ADC, with zero intervention from any junglers. They died while I was ganking TF to snowball Fizz. A gold lead of something like 15% is a 70% win rate in LCS. Hecarim and Fizz can't solo carry. We can only blow up 2 squishies. Late game they had ultra fed Nocturne and ultra fed Shyvana, to our feeding Shen and feeding bot lane.

They weren't behind because I took their kills. They were behind because they position like shit and decide to melee enemy assassins and bruisers instead of letting the team peel for them.

Shiroi KitsuneMay 1, 20151 votes

I've seen you on this forum quite a bit, so I know that you normally aren't this way. What I'd really suggest is just calming down and looking at the situation as what it is. You got some shitty teammates a couple game in a row. Are you gonna get a free winning streak to make it up? No. Is complaining about it going to change anything? No. Just focus on what you can change, and that is yourself. I know you're running around claiming that your mechanically sound, but remember that fights are usually not so much about mechanics, but about broader strategies and tactics used to enter into the fights. If you decide to engage while your dip-dip adc is off playing patty-cake with gromp, that's on you, not him. Sure you can blame him afterwards for his poor decision making, but you made the even more detrimental decision to try to fight while he was doing that. Remember that saying people say, "It's better to make mediocre plays as a team, than to make good plays as an individual".

BluePolarizerMay 1, 20151 votes

I didn't engage. Gnar engaged right as Cait left to farm top, our Ahri died instantly and there's that. I'm not the greatest mechanically, but I'm pretty much at the limit of how fast my fingers can move and what my ping allows. I try to shot call but there's nothing I can do to stop the rest of my team from throwing. This is just god damn ridiculous. Yeah, I could've engaged along with Gnar, but that's engaging into a 4v5 without our ADC; I could've just ran away, and cut our losses, but our ADC while farming top late game and full slotted, got killed by enemy assassins collapsing on her. I can't carry 2 ppl who are actively throwing. If ONLY Gnar engaged and died for nothing, sure. If ONLY Cait left and farmed, we could've backed off. But both happened simultaneously and I couldn't even ping fast enough before we lost the game.

I'm just seriously pissed that these guys are just so god damn bad. I used to be positive but these games have sucked all the positivity out of me. There's nothing to be positive about when all other lanes are opening buffets or deciding more gold when full slotted > enemy Nexus.

64931067_DELMay 1, 20151 votes

You just only 1/10+ input of the game. So that you cannot control your game by yourself. You can only do your best, and encourage your teammates do better. Keep calm and go out a little bit. Maybe everything will be better tomorrow?

If you still feel unfair, please look at the high-rank player. They have many smurf, and quickly climb into their main rank in solo-q. Are they just lucky? Of course, NO.

BluePolarizerMay 1, 20151 votes

I am not good enough to be challenger. Of COURSE a challenger in gold/plat can carry, it is like putting a gold/plat in bronze 5. But I shouldn't have to be a challenger level player to win in this elo.

64931067_DELMay 1, 20151 votes

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I am not good enough to be challenger. Of COURSE a challenger in gold/plat can carry, it is like putting a gold/plat in bronze 5. But I shouldn't have to be a challenger level player to win in this elo.

I did not say about the challengers. Just a high plat or diamond still can have themselves in their rank, when they play as a smurf. You just need to play more until it's enough, if you really deserve higher rank.

Big HansMay 4, 20151 votes

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I am not good enough to be challenger. Of COURSE a challenger in gold/plat can carry, it is like putting a gold/plat in bronze 5. But I shouldn't have to be a challenger level player to win in this elo.

You are basically admitting here that there is a lot of room for you to improve and that if you played better you would reach a higher rank. What exactly is this thread about then? We dont know what your weaknesses are. The game history doesnt realy show the whole picture. There are millions of ways you could have played that game better. Realizing what those things are requires calm and honest self analysis. Maybe even a coach.

Most games are not lost by mecanics or some build issue. They are lost by failiure to work together as a team. Atleast in soloQ.

BluePolarizerMay 4, 20151 votes

I shouldn't have to be challenger to win a low plat game. There's also plenty of diamonds complaining about LP clamping and having to be challengers to reach diamond 4.

Eric SenpaiMay 1, 20151 votes

One way to win is to pick any champion, buy Iron Elixer, use it (duh), and click on your team's adc until you win team fights. Repeat steps two through four every 4 minutes as needed.