Good Kogmaw Build?

Laraso·3/15/2015, 5:29:07 AM·1 votes·668 views

So I started playing Kog'maw recently and I've been using a build I came up with that seems to be fairly effective, but I'm unsure if it's the most optimal way to build him.

My first buy is item 3070, followed up by a item 3153. After that I get item 3006 and then complete item 3004.

After that I usually go item 3078 > item 3087 > item 3031.

My main concern is the lack of Last Whisper, but I'm unsure on which item I would replace. Any suggestions?

EDIT: Also, would hybrid Magic Pen + Armor Pen quints and marks be a good choice?

4 Comments

kyocrisis3/15/2015, 5:49:00 AM1 votes

You really want to choose just ap or ad. The best build I find is ad, rushing trinity force first. If you find you need mana build the sheen first and continue, otherwise start with zeal. Then you will want BotRK, Berserkers Greaves, and probably Last Whisper. Finish with IE, Phantom Dancer, or a def item like GA or Banshees. Bloodthirster is another option but I find not the best on Kog.

EvilMerodach3/15/2015, 6:22:11 AM1 votes

TL;DR: Maybe try getting item 3031 sooner (before item 3078 item 3087,) see if it ups damage output midgame.

Feels like you're delaying your damage a LOT with this build. item 3070 is always cost ineffective early game (but worth for late game, if you get it maxed) item 3153 is kinda 'meta' but I think it's at least mildly situational. (you want someone with a decent chunk of HP stacking before it's worth..otherwise, item 3072 might be better for the shield..and siege strats..and, kog is good at sieging) Putting item 3031 last seems odd. The damage boost for that is insane, waiting for the +50 to crit till max items makes me feel like you could be carrying harder earlier. Should at least try bumping the priority of it up a few slots for a couple games and see if it's better.

Also for straight single target damage, item 3046 is better than item 3087 now. Consider getting it if you're not trying to get the AoE damage out in team fights and just focusing down someone.

If you're looking for a straight replacement for item 3035 , maybe drop item 3087 or possibly even item 3031 and item 3087 and get something else instead. No reason to force yourself into a crit based build, Kog isn't really a crit required champ. item 3025 item 3085 item 3172 item 3158 are options. Though that's going into a whole other build. item 3025 could replace item 3078 though, extra mana and cdr from it goes well with the item 3070 item 3004, just gotta weave more spells in-between autos for it to be worth. But then you might feel like you're getting into Blue Ez build.

Xela Syab3/15/2015, 3:36:52 PM1 votes

ok my adc runes and masteries are always 21/0/9, get ad runes with 1 quint then 2 lifesteal, then armor and mr. Build Kog like Corki or Ez get TF first then Blade, if they stack armor get last whisper or start building ap. You shouldn't first pick kog unless you have mobility support (karma, lulu, thresh) so you can kite and poke and not get caught out if you team can support sieging and poking then he's a good pick and you should only pick Kog if they have a tanky comp and you need a hyper carry because Ez and Corki are better due to escapes and less mana intensive ults.

insaiyanbacca3/15/2015, 3:42:52 PM1 votes

for ad kog i have a weird build kinda but here's what i do i like to go for item 3153 first, then get a item 3078 now after these two people complain about my build alot because i like to get aitem 3085 then a item 3072 or an item 3031 then one of the following: item 3046 item 3087 item 3026 item 3139 and i buy boots somewhere in or before the first two items