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Need help getting from Silver 4 to Gold

Neckerei·1/16/2015, 3:12:55 AM·2 votes·1,414 views

Ok this will sound bad but i have over 3000 ranked games in combined from season 3 and 4 (2000) in silver and over 600 wins in norms. I have knowledge of every champion and their damages cause ive played them all and own them all. My main role is mid lane but i can do every lane well enough to not feed. I main Zed and Fizz occassionaly Yasuo ( i am learning Ahri and Ori for mage mains) so in a sense assassins are my specialty ive mained all of them for at least a while at some point, but i have 600 zed ranked games from both seasons and about 400 fizz. (not to mention normals). So i believe i am very experienced in my role especialy since ive read and watched every guide on laning mechanics and practiced them for mid. Although i will lose sometimes in lane which is inevitable cause im not the best I do not struggle to get fed most of the time. Ive been to S1 to S5 and back about 6 times. Im not sure how i get to S1 just lucky streaks i guess but i know there must be something i can do to control outcomes of the game. I try to practice with my friends 2 of them plat 3 gold and a diamond and im the lowest of them all and constently get made fun of. I ask them what i can do to improve and they just say stop being a baddy silver. I understand i must be making mistakes but im not sure what. I understand that as Zed and fizz i need to pick of people alone and assassinate carries. As Zed i know sometimes i need to splitpush but i often struggle to know when to make decisions to do things in games and sometimes it costs me greatly. I try to help get my bot lane fed after i generaly win lane if i dont win i try to pick up kills bot or off the enemy jungle. I will admit i sometimes forget vision and that lack of it often gets me in sticky situations but i can normaly get out of it. i understand its towers over all and i will sometimes sacrifice myself to take a tower or get drag. Even sometimes i sacrifice myself to get my other laners fed as long as i know they can kill them. I also take out the biggest carry on the enemy team in fights and most of the time get out to help with the rest. My Zed mechanics are not and issue as far as im concerned. I watch guides to get out of silver and read guide and most the stuff it tells you to do i am already aware of and try to do to the best of my ability. It just drives me mad to know i am missing something that causes me to lose. I dont know what to do its really making me depressed to know that my dream of getting to diamond is not going to come true cause im holding myself back in some way. I had a whole season to get out of silver and made no proggress. I even had a friend just start league of legends get to 30 get placed in bronze and he carried himself out to gold in 2 months supporting. It made me almost blow a gasket in my brain. PLS someone i beg you to help me know what i can do.

12 Comments

Episodes1/16/2015, 8:48:02 AM2 votes

TL;DR : The guy is stuck in elo hell but thinks he shouldn't be.

I had the same problem when I was in Silver V, I got over it when I learned how the game really worked.

I just played Katarina non-stop until I reached gold promos, its weird, it was like a breeze from that low tier all the way to gold 4.

So what i'm trying to say here is that you should abuse the champions that can be really hard to deal with, in lane and after lane phase.

Katarina is a perfect example, because once you master her simple kit, you would be extremely hard to kill.

Her passive is the key to your victory.

But if that's not really your cup of tea, I suggest more ap assassins like

Akali or Diana OR Fizz

But if you can also play AD assassins, they're okay too.

But only champions like Yasuo and Talon would really make the game a one sided win.

In silver ELO, people don't know how to deal with these types of things, not to be rude or anything.

But its fully your choice if you want to main mid lane, I find the Jungle role to be super effective in the overall game results, because in the end you were the one to help out your lanes with their lane bully and take objectives to win.

Jungle early pressure makes the game a GG or BG.

Source :I'm currently Diamond IV in solo q.

Wolf Queen1/16/2015, 4:37:08 AM1 votes

Id be happy to help you :3 im gold 5 if your interested feel free to add me. Im not the best player obviously or id be challenger. But id certainly love to offer any help i can :) if you want just add me in game my name is Blood Wolf0

Neckerei1/16/2015, 5:24:02 AM1 votes

bumpity

Neckerei1/16/2015, 6:40:54 AM1 votes

bumpity bump bump

Commit Sudoku1/16/2015, 11:32:13 AM1 votes

Zed need i say more, outplay im gold 4 myself i play with plat players and diamond players in norms and I roll face with zed against other plats and diamonds

Gym Leader Yaki1/16/2015, 1:52:41 PM1 votes

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Ok this will sound bad but i have over 3000 ranked games in combined from season 3 and 4 (2000) in silver and over 600 wins in norms. I have knowledge of every champion and their damages cause ive played them all and own them all. My main role is mid lane but i can do every lane well enough to not feed. I main Zed and Fizz occassionaly Yasuo ( i am learning Ahri and Ori for mage mains) so in a sense assassins are my specialty ive mained all of them for at least a while at some point, but i have 600 zed ranked games from both seasons and about 400 fizz. (not to mention normals). So i believe i am very experienced in my role especialy since ive read and watched every guide on laning mechanics and practiced them for mid. Although i will lose sometimes in lane which is inevitable cause im not the best I do not struggle to get fed most of the time. Ive been to S1 to S5 and back about 6 times. Im not sure how i get to S1 just lucky streaks i guess but i know there must be something i can do to control outcomes of the game. I try to practice with my friends 2 of them plat 3 gold and a diamond and im the lowest of them all and constently get made fun of. I ask them what i can do to improve and they just say stop being a baddy silver. I understand i must be making mistakes but im not sure what. I understand that as Zed and fizz i need to pick of people alone and assassinate carries. As Zed i know sometimes i need to splitpush but i often struggle to know when to make decisions to do things in games and sometimes it costs me greatly. I try to help get my bot lane fed after i generaly win lane if i dont win i try to pick up kills bot or off the enemy jungle. I will admit i sometimes forget vision and that lack of it often gets me in sticky situations but i can normaly get out of it. i understand its towers over all and i will sometimes sacrifice myself to take a tower or get drag. Even sometimes i sacrifice myself to get my other laners fed as long as i know they can kill them. I also take out the biggest carry on the enemy team in fights and most of the time get out to help with the rest. My Zed mechanics are not and issue as far as im concerned. I watch guides to get out of silver and read guide and most the stuff it tells you to do i am already aware of and try to do to the best of my ability. It just drives me mad to know i am missing something that causes me to lose. I dont know what to do its really making me depressed to know that my dream of getting to diamond is not going to come true cause im holding myself back in some way. I had a whole season to get out of silver and made no proggress. I even had a friend just start league of legends get to 30 get placed in bronze and he carried himself out to gold in 2 months supporting. It made me almost blow a gasket in my brain. PLS someone i beg you to help me know what i can do.

I'm actually very happy to have read this without seeing "it's cuz my team sucks". The first step is always acknowledging your mistakes before other people's mistakes. Now, it's rather hard for us to give you advice if we can't see any of you replays. Who knows, you might be making the same mistake for the past 1000 games and we might never figure it out. Here is what I can suggest:

  • ** Install LOLReplay and review you games **. Try different perspectives, like looking at your opponent with your side being in the fog of war. Maybe you'll notice you make silly things without even noticing. At some point you'll find out your mistakes. Admit them, work past them.

  • ** Watch pro players on Youtube **. As silly as this may seem, looking at youtube COMMENTARIES will make you understand their logic behind their actions. This really helped me a lot in my reflexes. The ones I recommend are NOT the ones that just scream, say silly things, try to be entertaining and act stupid (AKA Sykkuno). Don't get me wrong, he's super funny, but brings nothing educational to the table. So I recommend : ZzLegendary, CaptainMonk, AnkleSpankin and maybe InvaderXive (they all have a sht ton of videos).

  • Play music while playing. As stupid as this may seem, music helps you relax. Not only frustration, but also helps working around sad or demotivated feelings, all which could have an impact on your games. Try an online free radio of you favorite music genre.

  • Mute all chat. Seriously, don't let your opponents get to you. This also implies muting your allies if they're being mean. Don't even waste a second, not worth you getting frustrated and sad over that.

  • Find your champion pool. If you play with all of the champions, then you will be decent with all of them and good with none of them. You also don't wanna become a one trick pony. What if that champ gets banned, picked or counter picked? What if that champion gets nerfed? For that reason, I recommend you choosing 2 to 3 champions per lane, you main lane(s) having 4 to 5 champions. Overall, try to have 12 to 17 champions that you always play. GARANTEED you'll go up in ranking. Make sure you pick different champs. Like ADC, if you wanna have a hypercarry like Vayne , make sure your other pick is not a hypercarry. Make it a safe laner like Caitlyn .

I really hope you take what I said into consideration. It helped me get to gold. Good luck.

mark88da1/16/2015, 1:56:47 PM1 votes

I had some troubles too.

I tried different guides and try to search for some kind of help, but in the end i found out that i have to trust on my own methodes. You must trust yourself that the way YOU play, will make all the difference. When i found that out, i won 9 games in a row and i am going fast upward right now.

I was in silver v, but now i am in promo for silver III and i have only played a week from there. Just trust in yourself mate and try your own experiments :)

I wish you good luck! :)

btw. ad me as friend, if you wanna have some games with me, my name is mark88da :)

Neckerei1/17/2015, 7:05:53 AM1 votes

bumpity

hh the thinker1/16/2015, 4:10:41 AM1 votes

I think it would help people if you recorded one or two of your games and put it on here maybe. it's hard to know what you need to work on without giving general advice, which I'm sure you've heard many times.

Neckerei1/18/2015, 3:39:09 AM1 votes

super bump