Something i need to ask about Cs'ing as a bronzie

Mega MilkJugs·May 26, 2015·1 votes·467 views

So i really want to get better and hopefully one day climb out of bronze and i have a pretty much ok understanding of this game and champion mechanics.

As far as positioning and Cs'ing/trading goes and as well as knowing when to split push well..... I think i need more practice but some good advice about now would really help me if that's ok. I know how to cs but sometimes i feel like i sometimes might take to much damage from the enemy laner going for a creep or altogether miss creeps because i don't want to take any damage

From what i also understand in higher levels people say that you're more punished for making mistakes in lane. What are these mistakes? and how can i also spot them too so i can take advantage of them?

If someone could reply id be much obliged. Thanks. Your fellow Bronze 5.

10 Comments

JamareeMay 26, 20153 votes

It is something that isn't really explainable and you just have to play to understand yourself honestly. One thing though, notice that when your opponent is coming up to hit you, they will have a yellow outline around them, learn what each champion can more or less do and know when it is smart or not to trade, like most of the time, especially early on, don't trade in a minion wave, those fuckers hurt.

As for mistakes, just tiny things like missing CS, bad positioning, not warding, stuff like that.

Mega MilkJugsMay 26, 20151 votes

Ah Thanks for the reply and advice If i could ask though what do you mean by a yellow outline when they attack you? Ive never noticed this

JamareeMay 26, 20152 votes

Wait, that might only be in Bot vs AI, can't fully remember, check for me, either way, you will get a feel for it after a while.

ModKnightsKemplarMay 26, 20153 votes

It's really hard to put a finger on this exactly... Partly because it depends on the matchup and how the lane is going.

Obviously, the general strategy is to CS as much as possible without taking a bunch of damage from the enemy laner. And, when you can, do a bunch of damage to them. I would say this is fairly consistent with all champs (some cannot trade without losing, but you still want to IF you somehow, magically, can).

Basically, mistakes in lane are matters of positioning. If you put yourself in a situation where the enemy laner can attack you and win the trade, then you made a mistake. You took a bunch of damage and didn't get anything back for it. Every time you lose anything in league, you want to gain something equal or better in return. When you lose a trade, you're letting your opponent get something for nothing. So avoid that.

If you understand everything that I said above, then all you need to do is practice.

Mega MilkJugsMay 26, 20151 votes

True practice does make perfect One thing ive also been trying out is freezing a lane but im not sure if im pulling it off right

What would you possibly say are great positions? that be by your turret? or like just kinda close to turret? Its annoying cause sometimes when minions are pushed to my turret i feel like im somehow being zoned but when its the opposite it seems like there super safe just happily farming away depending on their champ pic ofc

Sorry if its a lot but i want to understand a bit more

ModKnightsKemplarMay 26, 20153 votes

As to the zoning problem, again, it has to do with matchup. Some champs have a really hard time farming under tower, and others don't. If you're one of the champs that don't, it's okay to get pushed under tower because you can still farm really safely.

Now, that discussion isn't actually what people are referring to when they talk about positioning. "Positioning" is more about where you champion is in relation to the other champs... Like, if the adc has bad positioning, it usually means they were up too close to the other team where they could get bursted down.

So, good positioning varies. In the laning phase, good positioning is where you minimize your risk and maximize your reward. Sometimes you want to be in the wave and harassing your opponent, other times you want to play far back and farm from range. It just depends. Your questions aren't bad, but they're so general that they're difficult to answer in a specific way. So I'm answering them in a general way. XP

Live2LetDieMay 26, 20152 votes

positioning: can they poke you? will you take alot of damage for that cs? can they cc you? are you over extended? Think aabout these when your in lane and thinking about if you should get that creep or not.

Another thing i see when coaching bronze players is they seem to hold their abilites for champs only. Dont be scared to pop your abilites on just creeps. You need that cs and mana/energy comes back, that cs doesnt.

Mega MilkJugsMay 26, 20151 votes

yup. Ive been pretty guilty on this >.> I always just aa farm if i can but if that also works best then il start trying that out too thnks man

SnugglePuggle94May 27, 20152 votes

Thats what I figured out too. Especially with Karma, just Q into creeps, and if your lucky to be against a melee champ and they are close to the creeps you want, you also get a bonus out of damaging them too while your at it.

Mega MilkJugsMay 26, 20151 votes

You guys are being really helpful really appreciate these answers and I hope with some of this advice il start to learn from mistakes more. il probably keep checking this thread from time to time to remember these tips thnks a bunch for all your time summoner 7