What do you do against a team thats to tanky?

Mega MilkJugs·9/10/2015, 10:04:00 PM·1 votes·738 views

Theres always that moment where there are at least 3 tanky champs on the other the team and they just bulldoze there way through mid with the enemy squishys.

What are you supposed to do in that type of situation? with like 3 champs that have 2000 + health walking around your second or third turret Im in bronze and really need some kind of advice here on what to do type of champ? type of items or something? any advice would be grateful

5 Comments

ValyrianBlade9/10/2015, 10:21:03 PM2 votes

a) Those comps own - consider dodging I guess. I myself avoid dodging and always regret it, it's pretty easy to tell when the enemy team has a much better comp than you (lots of lockdown cc and peel) and often I lose these matches...

b) Build Last Whisper on your ADC earlier. Build Black Cleaver on your bruisers. Consider BotRK on either (armor shred, then % hp magic damage). Build Void staff early on AP champions, and consider Abyssal Scepter (especially if they're AP tanks and especially if your team has more magic damage than just you). Also consider Liandry's (possibly paired with Rylai's). Overall, just build to beat stacking hp or resistances.

c) Have your best split pusher split push. Tanks excel in teamfights. Not so much in pushing a lane. If they send a squishy to clear, get the free kill 1v1 and now they have no damage, so take multiple objectives. If they send a tank, either rotate or just continue to push the tower. If they send more than 1 person, press your numbers advantage elsewhere and take a turret or something. Just make sure when split pushing that you're applying pressure in both locations, as the tanks will be able to force an engage in one of the two (so you better be able to take the other objective as giving up the kills won't be worth it otherwise).

d) Supports need to get Mikhael's. I can't stress this enough. If I'm your fed adc and the enemy team has ANY CC, Mikhael's should be a priority for you. If they have multiple hard CC lockdowns even moreso. When I'm really fed I wish my top and jungler would build it as well and have all 3 of them free me from targeted CC. I'm doing the damage and I'm who they're targeting first, so your build really doesn't mean much, keep me alive and I'll kill them for you.

e) AD champions should get a QSS in to merc scimitar, AP should consider Zhonya's if appropriate. These are tough as regardless of whether you're ahead or behind, you want to build to press the advantage or build to catch up. Going for a QSS as an ADC can just feel wrong, but sometimes it's necessary (vs. Malzahar, Lissandra, Warwick, etc...). I personally need to do this more.

But yea, overall, in low elo if you're not the ADC or the APC, I wish you'd pick a tank or at least someone with CC. Unless you regularly go 20/3/12 as Yasuo top or something, you're going to be much more valuable to your team with peel and CC and tankiness...

IcyPepper9/10/2015, 10:27:28 PM2 votes

item 3153 item 3151 item 3135 item 3035 item 3142 item 3020 item 3091 item 3071 help on your carries (some depend on the carries, tho)

item 3105 item 3190 are good on your tank and/or support if the team is cc heavy (because a lot of their base damage, and sunfire/cinderhulk deal magic damage).

item 3222 similar reason, but to negate cc. Best on supports

item 3060 if the tanks deal magic damage as opposed to physical, this item helps keep them from pushing too hard

item 3512 pushes another lane (banner can help) to provide pressure if they're focused on mid, forcing them to eventually lose a turret or send someone up there

item 3504 good support item to give your ADC a bit more dps to melt tanks

item 3050 does this even need an explaination?

item 2138 decent for tanks, but most people don't even use elixirs :c

item 3116 cc

HalcyonDweller9/11/2015, 1:20:48 AM2 votes

You sound like you need peel/disruption and stronger dps for your team.

If you're already in game and you are falling behind, you may need to adjust your strategies or item builds. Staying where you have vision is key so you do not get caught out. Buying extra wards and placing them will help this a lot. If you want to know more about this look up warding guides.

There are a variety of items that can help you against getting steamrolled by bruisers. The two things to pay attention to are increasing your movement speed, or reducing / disrupting your opponents' movement.

Tanky items to consider include randuin's omen, Ohmwrecker, Zz'Rot Portal, and Iceborn Gauntlet. Items for AP characters include: Luden's Echo, Lich Bane, Rylais's Crystal Scepter, Ohmwrecker, and Twin Shadows. AD characters can build Youmuu's Ghostblade, Frozen Mallet, Phantom Dancer, Statik Shiv, Blade of the Ruined King, The Black Cleaver, Trinity Force, Zephyr, and Mercurial Scimitar.

Champions that are useful against this: If you are playing a tank or a bruiser role try to make sure your team has several disruptive abilities, good disruptive bruisers / tanks are Zac, Maokai, Braum, Thresh, Gragas, Lee Sin, Nautilus, Sejuani, Sion, Skarner, Vi, and others I'm forgetting right now. If you are picking a carry role, try to choose a character with mobility or cc, or both. Mobile marksmen include: Caitlynn, Tristana (also has peel with her ultimate), Graves, Lucian, Ezreal and Vayne. Marksmen with cc include: Ashe, Varus, Vayne, Tristana. Mobile mages: Ahri, Ezreal, Cassiopeia (with her movement Speed bonus on q), Karma, Kennen (with lightning rush) Leblanc, Lissandra, Ziggs (with his satchel charge). Mages with cc / dsruption: Anivia, Cassiopeia (poison cloud and ultimate), Kennen (his passive), Lissandra, Swain, Veigar, Vel'Koz, Ziggs, and Zyra.

HEAljvLykd9/10/2015, 10:22:05 PM1 votes

Build tank.

Mega MilkJugs9/11/2015, 7:07:18 PM1 votes

Ah i see Thank you all the replies. il try to take into consideration everything thats been said so far and hope it gets me somewhere