No, Riot! Just... HELL NO!
I'm not enjoying your grindy reward system, that barely gives any meaningful rewards, and it is definitely NOT awesome... WTF! Take that shit away and replace that cringy " awesome " with the usual " continue " or just " OK " or something normal.
Just how freaking delusional and narcissistic this company is?
[zombie-brand-mindblown]
Pandemic Punch16 votesI wouldn't immediately jump to narcissism, but their terms definitely always felt off to me. Including "reform cards" where they make you click "I agree" to get into your client when I really don't agree :D
Cräfty7 votesWell, it's definitely narcissism, especially if you consider what Marc " tryndamere " Miller said to IWD on twitter and the backlash he received from that...
The whole leadership of the company is just a bunch of narcissistic and egotistical people, who are leading the company into the mud.
Azurereaper4 votesYou could say its being run by a group of 13 year old reddit mods. That freak out every time you go against a silent arbitrary rule.
Chalze1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pandemic Punch,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=yBn5FyHK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-04T17:39:59.942+0000)
I wouldn't immediately jump to narcissism, but their terms definitely always felt off to me. Including "reform cards" where they make you click "I agree" to get into your client when I really don't agree :D
Making you click 'I agree' allows them to have a reason to punish you if you further breach upon whatever you did breach upon before. It reminds me of my student allowance system, not sure how it is in other countries but they give you the money first and then do a background check. That way, if you're fine, you're fine and get the money ASAP but if there is something wrong, giving you the money early allows them a reason to screw you over if your background check does reveal something sketchy (e.g. not actually living in some apartment you need to pay rent for and only staying home taking advantage of the money).
In fact I think this is becoming more and more commonplace. It's a system where if you're fine, you're fine, but if you're not then they have a reason to screw you over since its by your word/agreement.
Neumím Riven1 votesWish I could type there : "your mums are fat and you are overpaid morons" instead xD.
MrCakeThe1st6 votesLike WHO THE FUCK WANTS ICONS?
Cräfty6 votesApparently, icons and emotes are awesome, according to Riot...
[slayer-jinx-unamused]
MrCakeThe1st2 votesExactly like the new "event" if u can even call it that, I don't think u even rember, the demacia one? U JUST GET ICONS NOT EVEN LIKE AN EMOTE OR WARD JUST FKCING ICONS
DBS Ronovon2 votesApparently, icons and emotes are awesome, according to Riot...
[slayer-jinx-unamused]
I think you like getting those epic emotes and icons instead of stuff that matters like skins and champs. Good thing you have a chance to get more things that you don't want so your chance of getting what you DO want is decreased huh.
Ahri Body Pillow5 votesimagine being upset about free stuff
Cräfty4 votesI guess you totally missed the whole point of this thread...
But I see that Riot's stupid ideology infected you. #feelsbadman
Ahri Body Pillow3 votesI 100 percent get the point of the thread. But it seems like you're just complaining to complain. "Rito narcissistic and cringy cuz a button says awesome." Go outside dude...
Cräfty5 votesI 100 percent get the point of the thread. But it seems like you're just complaining to complain. "Rito narcissistic and cringy cuz a button says awesome."
You've just proven that you didn't understand anything. You're not smart enough to read between the lines and understand what such small details and what all of it says about Riot and their philosophy. Especially considering all of the bad shit that went down the past few years...
You're just a passive consumer, I suppose! The kinda player that is fine with everything and just gets manipulated easily into doing Riot's bidding.
Go outside dude...
Such a typical response from a dumb kid on the internet, I guess.
[zombie-brand-clap]
Ahri Body Pillow2 votesYou've just proven that you didn't understand anything. You're not smart enough to read between the lines and understand what such small details and what all of it says about Riot and their philosophy. Especially considering all of the bad shit that went down the past few years...
You're just a passive consumer, I suppose! The kinda player that is fine with everything and just gets manipulated easily into doing Riot's bidding.
Such a typical response from a dumb kid on the internet, I guess.
[zombie-brand-clap]
I mean, I'm well awares of RIots recent shitty philosophy, but I think there way more extreme examples we should be focused on. Random litttle legend skins (basically loot crates), the way they are forcing players to spend tons of RP on limited time content (The insanely expensive border sets and the chromas that can only be received by buying the entire chroma bundle, both of which are limited time only), fucking PRESTIGE skins which are just giant memes really. The list truly does go on and on. Let's focus on those major issues instead of a button that says "Awesome". I personally went from buying a skin or 2 every week back in 2014-15 to almost never buying skins. And i sure as shit won't be buying any of these garbage ass little legends eggs.
Chevali3r7 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Body Pillow,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=yBn5FyHK,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-04T18:55:41.694+0000)
imagine being upset about free stuff
Imagine valuing players who spend their time on your game instead of any of the multiple competitors. There's a correlation between players spending time with your product and spending money on it.
Azurereaper5 votesI just want an option to swap this nonsense to just "ok". Nothing pisses most people off more than having words put into their mouths. Like Riots supposed to be reducing toxicity? Right. This just annoys people more.
Lolipoppers3 votesJust another example of them insisting "You think you want it, but you don't" even when the customer base screams otherwise.
Jesi Oni2 votesLast time... there at least was a single Little Legend Egg. Looks like quality rewards are against company policy.
it be lìke that2 votesthis really what ya'll mad about? Here I am sick of nobles, yall mad about a button. you are playing the game for the sake of playing it, not grinding it for those big ticket rewards? who even looks at that lmao.
Cräfty3 votesYou don't get it, don't you...
Here is a hint: It's not about just a button, it's about the way Riot is presenting the crappy reward system to us and shoved into our faces. It's about the psychology behind it! It's about reading between the lines. It's about mind games and mind sets.
You think it's just a button that reads " awesome ", we read " F-ck the community and what they want. We're gonna give them some crappy emotes and icons, that barely take any effort and resources to create and have no value whatsoever, and they WILL be happy about it, because that's what they deserve and because we said so! If we say it's awesome, then IT IS AWESOME. End of discussion! ".
We play video games to have fun, sure. But, also, getting meaningful rewards, inside the game, is one of the most effective ways to push the players to play even more and to grind that ranked ladder. That gives us a purpose and a goal to reach inside the game.
What Riot is doing is like having a job, IRL, and after working hard and doing overtime, the boss comes and says " here is a tap on the shoulder. Isn't that awesome?! Enjoy it! That's your reward for working hard ", no meaningful compensations like extra overtime money or a raise or something...
When you put in the effort into doing something, you should be rewarded for it in a meaningful and significant way. League is, at its core, free. But it's not like me and a lot of other people aren't paying them money for skins and whatnot. So, technically it's not free as long as I'm paying money to them, regardless of where that money is spent. Afterall, the money is going to Riot directly, so...
Considering this, when I play regular ranked league or ranked TFT, I expect there to be good really awesome rewards, not this cringy reward system. We want something that will push us to tell our friends who don't play league or TFT: " Hey! I play this awesome game called LoL (or TFT) that has some awesome gameplay and is fairly balanced and cool. Also, you get awesome rewards for it if you grind that ranked ladder. You should come check it out! ".
Right now, when my friends ask me about league or TFT, all I can honestly say is " Well, it has potential but right now it's a clusterfuck of bugs and unbalanced gameplay. It's not as fun as it used to be and the rewards you get for playing it are abysmal. It's not worth wasting your time trying to learn it from the ground up, atm. As for me, well, I've been already invested for years, so I managed to adapt and find some ways to have fun in it, but I'm starting to think seriously about quitting for something else!".
Nik Nikerson1 votesIf you're playing a game just to get shit in the game, you should stop wasting your time. It's something that you're supposed to enjoy enough to spend your free time playing, NOT A JOB. What you're supposed to get is some enjoyment from the experience. Some fun. Maybe a sense of accomplishment. Not rewards. Rewards are nice, but if they are the sole reason you play a game, there's something wrong, and you should spend your time doing something you actually like.
Cräfty1 votesHmmm... So you're the type of player who plays MMORPGs just to have fun, instead of grinding for that endgame epic and legendary loot, hein?!
Nah, man... For people like me, rewards ARE what make a game fun. Back in the day, I played WoW for the Heroic / Mythic raiding and heroic / mythic loot, not to have fun doing stupid shit. In the same way, I played regular ranked in League to reach that challenger status in the hope to get the challenger bag and jacket (I came close to it, but wasn't not quite there). Not to say that league isn't fun, it is actually a lot of fun, but I'm more interested in the rewards than the " fun " of it all.
For TFT, it's no different for me. I expect there to be meaningful rewards for my time that I spent grinding the game and ranked ladder. So far, there is some fun to be had inside the game itself but it's not quite what I want from the game.
You can say I'm a semi-hardco... eh, who am I kidding? I am a hardcore gamer and I like the challenge games give me and I want good rewards for all my troubles. And a lot of people are like me, so... yeah!
Video games are supposed to fill in the fantasy of doing things that are impossible, or quite hard, IRL, and actually be recognized and compensated for our efforts. Rewards are what make or break a game, for me. YES, the reward could be the whole game experience as a whole, for some games, but that's very rare and very few games managed to do that. But for the majority, rewards is where it's at, mate!
Nik Nikerson1 votesSo you're the type of player who plays MMORPGs just to have fun, instead of grinding for that endgame epic and legendary loot, hein?!
Pretty much. It's also why I don't generally play MMORPGs, because I don't find grinding to be particularly fun. And I don't waste my precious free-time on shit I don't find fun.
Video games are supposed to fill in the fantasy of doing things that are impossible, or quite hard, IRL...
Yep. They sure are.
... and actually be recognized and compensated for our efforts.
And that's where you've gone wrong. Like I said, it's not a job; you don't deserve any sort of compensation nor recognition. You don't deserve anything. Just because you spend your time doing something, doesn't mean you've innately earned a reward.
If you don't find TFT to be your cup of tea, you just shouldn't be playing it. Like, if you find grinding to be enjoyable, I'm not here to tell anyone how to have fun. But if you're wasting your time doing something you don't really enjoy just to get a cosmetic effect for something that you don't enjoy... just... why? Why would you do that to yourself?
Cräfty1 votesAnd that's where you've gone wrong. Like I said, it's not a job; you don't deserve any sort of compensation nor recognition. You don't deserve anything. Just because you spend your time doing something, doesn't mean you've innately earned a reward.
If you don't find TFT to be your cup of tea, you just shouldn't be playing it. Like, if you find grinding to be enjoyable, I'm not here to tell anyone how to have fun. But if you're wasting your time doing something you don't really enjoy just to get a cosmetic effect for something that you don't enjoy... just... why? Why would you do that to yourself?
You must be a a very, VERY casual " gamer ", then. YOU MUST BE! There is NO WAY in hell a true gamer - not an elitist or a hardcore gamer, just a normal true gamer - would say such words... NO WAY!
If you think that gamers don't deserve anything for playing games, then, OH BOY... you're gonna piss off so many people around here!
You simply don't understand what gaming is all about... you just don't get it!
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
Sheogowrath1 votesStop complaining about free content in a free game. There are emote and arena skins in there which are nice. The icon spam is annoying, but you need not play if you don't want to.
Makarakarn1 votes???????????