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My all too frequent experience with Krugs

J Epstein··93 votes·14,594 views

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It's a vicious cycle...

Edit: Wow, didn't expect to get so many upvotes! Thanks everybody!

Also, I should clarify since people keep posting the same "how to beat krugs 100% of the time" comment, I typically don't have a problem ~95% of the time. It's just that little 5% of the time where nothing is going right that game and needed an item to stay afloat, but couldn't get one because I didn't have one. Even it happening that small amount seemed too frequent as item drop numbers should really be the same for everybody, that's all :) #NormalizeItemDropQuantites

31 Comments

Kei14312 votes

I actually wonder if there is a way to position against the krugs so the furthest Krug will be killed first..

Disulfiram1 votes

You can put a tanky champion close to the two krugs on the side: it will keep them distracted while the rest of the team focuses and kills the other krug first.

Tamo Tua1 votes

It works only if you do not have assassins in your team, that can and in 2/3 of times will teleport to the pack instead to the single one and so your team fails because one tank and one dps will die from the 2 before the seperate one died. I tried it several times now, and no way to figure how to get assassins do what u want. The problem is the dps do come from this teleporting assa when u have at least 2 tanks one for the pack and one for the solo one. That means it depends on the 2 heroes that you did pick additionally, if you only had a bad loot and got two weak heroes then u will fail easily and then I normally sell all heroes and wait for the game to finish -.-

crippler381 votes

Just put them within melee range of the single krug or on the opposite corner then.

Beacon Academy1 votes

I usually econ as much as I can to krugs

Level for 5 unites

Line three units in the top row on the right

The right-most krug will target one of the two on the right while the two Krugs on the left gather on the left-most guy

Then my backline are two Vaynes I keep just for proccing the passive faster.

Alternatively graves with red buff or Garen/Darius/etc. with Morellos

Afterwards I continue econning.

J Epstein1 votes

I know how to position against them. Just every now and again I roll a weak team that probably could have won if I had one item drop before, but as a consequence I lose and still have no items.

It's just a frustrating but at the same time funny occurance that happens every so often. :)

Apollogy1 votes

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I actually wonder if there is a way to position against the krugs so the furthest Krug will be killed first..

lmao

SpaceDonut1 votes

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I actually wonder if there is a way to position against the krugs so the furthest Krug will be killed first..

Blitzcrank.

Jennifer4207 votes

2nd line is wrong. even if i win vs krugs, i still have no items after that. i have item. one item. not items.

J Epstein1 votes

Haha that happens as well. I've gotten to raptors a few times with no drops. Feelsbadman.

MalignMetal5 votes

I have bigger pieces of gold in my crap!

Akali Prime4 votes

i cant get a good job because i didnt go to college i didnt go to college because i have no money i have no money because i cant get a good job

reminds me of that one commercial lol

Unemployed Ninja2 votes

In my experience, the best thing you can do is while building your team, try like hell to get 4 T2 units. I've never lost to krugs with 4 T2 units, even with zero synergy and no items. I actually saved some units specifically so that I could fight krugs a couple games ago. I used a T2 Garen, Warwick, Trist, Twisted Fate. It was cut close for sure. But with 4 T2s, you will almost always beat them if you position your units to focus the one on the right first.

Janna Me Fiddle1 votes

In the current meta.

Level up to 4 after third creep round

Level up to 5 round before first Carousel, unless you already have a couple of two star units.

Level up to 6 after second Carousel

Econ to wolves.

If you got what you need, Econ to next Carousel then level to 7, if you don't roll to get what you need and level to 7 at Raptors.

The only time you wouldn't do this is when you're high rolling (already have several two star units that you can 3 star) in which case you don't level at all until you have your units.

With the meta being as incredibly aggressive as it is, losing at Krugs shouldn't happen as you'll have 5 units, or enough two stars to do it.

In case anyone is wondering why leveling is so aggressive at the moment

You level for several reasons:

  1. Availability of stronger units sooner, with Morgana, Kennen, Volibear and Aatrox being hotly contested, you want to get them coming up as soon as you can.

  2. Getting the core of your composition as soon as possible, synergies help a lot, you'll have core units you're wanting and you'll want them as soon as possible.

  3. Player damage mitigation, more units on the field means less chance of losing by large margins and less chance of taking a lot of early damage that can be hard to recover from.

I'm seeing players even in Plat trying to use the econ strategy only to get eliminated before wolves, right now you shouldn't be trying to econ early unless you're doing high roll and that's entirely dependent on getting several 2 star units before the end of the initial creep waves. Econ only comes in now when you have your composition core and are at a place where you can mitigate/win fights more often than not.

Shmeeve2 votes

gets 3 items from krugs AAAAAAAAAAAA-

hrooza dota 1 votes

do you go gunslingers/pirates early without items to lose to krugs?

Thefrostyviking3 votes

[{quoted}](name=hrooza dota ,realm=EUNE,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=uaHvAaWv,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-28T04:40:57.052+0000)

do you go gunslingers/pirates early without items to lose to krugs?

Pirates&gunslingers actually demolish krugs if you have something like a silver Darius to hold aggro while Lucian and Trist does their work with pyke lurking about.

hrooza dota 1 votes

true but i meant as a full gun slinger/pirates Lucian Tristana Gangplank Graves Graves which tend to have a pretty hard time unless most of them are 2 stars or have items [its pretty much the only time i lost to krug excluding DC as i had no items but a cursed blade]

Thefrostyviking1 votes

[{quoted}](name=hrooza dota ,realm=EUNE,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=uaHvAaWv,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-07-29T11:48:15.938+0000)

true but i meant as a full gun slinger/pirates Lucian Tristana Gangplank Graves Graves which tend to have a pretty hard time unless most of them are 2 stars or have items [its pretty much the only time i lost to krug excluding DC as i had no items but a cursed blade]

.-.........Replace 1 graves with a pyke, add in a cho as frontline and you have the way its actually supposed to work, if you get a silver MF later you´d replace graves with her.

But as for krugs, you can beat them with anything like a silver frontline 1 cost unit such as Garen/darius + silver pyke+silver trist and some bronze units in the same class.

But i do admit that its kinda very hard if you do not have any silver units at that point, wolves are similarly just not doable.

hrooza dota 1 votes

ok i meant pyke instant of graves 2, my bad

i am just saying unless op go full pirates/gun slingers like i did without silver units to fight krugs that would be a hard battle [unless he have a red buff or disarm] but thats the only time i see somebody lose to krugs tbh.

Barkley1 votes

2 things you can do to 100% beat krugs:

1.) Equip someone with a red buff, put them apart from the rest of your team 2.) Move everyone to the isolated krug except the person with red buff

Your whole team attacks the isolated krug and takes him down. The red buff person stops one of the other krugs from healing.

Wham bam, thank you ma'am.

If you don't have a red buff, just move everyone over to the isolated krug.

Also if you're having trouble having enough 2-star champs to beat krugs -- stop trying to force a team comp and just buy whatever the game gives you. You shouldn't have any idea what your team composition is going to be by Krugs, you should still be figuring it out.

Cowseed1 votes

Don't use aeo champs against krugs. Use high dps single target builds. Or use some defensive units like knights and 2 dps units positioned at the single krug.

Janna Me Fiddle2 votes

Not neccessarily true, some AoE units can kill the Krug group before they can heal. Evelynn is actually really really good at Krugs as her Execute kicks in at 65%, so if you got Graves wittling their hp down, Eve will execute and kill them all without the HP reset or need for Red Buff.

AlienPrimate1 votes

If you have no items or level 2 champions you can beat krugs every time be leveling up to put 6 champions on the board and positioning them on the right side.

Big Booty Heals1 votes

I usually have to level to 5 and put 2 knights, 2 rangers, and someone random just to beat it and if I do beat it by some reason I always get 6 gold ffs.

Busty Demon1 votes

It's worse than losing to minions on the very first round.?

TheGreatRasputin1 votes

Raptors are worse.

phoda1 votes

#leveling. 5 champs beat them

Dunker1 votes

Positioning. Place all 5 units on the right-hand side below the lone-krug. Two directly below, one below that, and two below that. All five should be directly under the lone-Krug. Make sure your ranged units are furthest away and you win every time.

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