Smite should be automatically selected when jungling

J Epstein·6/18/2018, 1:02:50 AM·29 votes·11,938 views

Playing with people who "forgot smite" cause unnecessary losses. You can't even report them because what category would you choose? And ok, lets say it was a mistake, why should I automatically lose because of it?

Runes have a auto-switching mechanic when the rune is incompatible with a champion. It wouldn't be too hard to auto switch one Summoner Spell with smite for people who fill the role as jungle.

This isn't controversial, and can only lend to a more positive experience.

edit: If I ran smiteless jg in ranked and was lvl 2 while rest game was lvl 6, would this not cause suspicion of trolling? auto-selecting smite for those who get rolled JUNGLE helps curb this autoloss

30 Comments

MagicFlyingLlama6/18/2018, 1:43:11 AM12 votes

Not everyone queued as jungle is actually playing jungle.

This would just outright not work. A reminder in select would be ok, though.

Despìca Bìll6/18/2018, 8:23:40 AM6 votes

Anybody who fills the jungle role, whether by original choice or by swap, should have smite autoselected. Then, if they choose to change it, a dialogue box should ask them to confirm. That way, if they go smiteless, it's clearly by design, and not another autofill who forgot he was even jungling.

Great idea, OP...this would be a small but wonderful QoL fix.

WubbaLubbaDubDab6/18/2018, 7:11:23 AM5 votes

exactly make smite default when some1 has the jg role and if they swap they can freely change the smite.

Arcane Blue Boi6/18/2018, 1:06:30 PM3 votes

When you have smite, jungle items should AUTOMATICALLY be your starting items there are too many jungle champions viable in the jungle to which riot recomends laning items when you are queued jungle and have smite.

TheMinionLeader6/18/2018, 4:54:01 PM3 votes

That is the ultimate feelsbadman loading screen. Jg without smite xD

Kídá6/18/2018, 12:47:26 PM3 votes

I think it would be better to allow us to set preferred summoner spells for each role that load up when you enter champ select. If you role swap then its on you to change your spells accordingly but this would help mitigate much of the issue with no smite junglers.

Mcsquzzy6/18/2018, 6:51:53 PM3 votes

I remember riot giving a reason why they have not made made this change. The community is divided on which button is for which summoner. So forcing then one way or another may effect them. Granted the one time I mixed them up I just changed the hotkeys in options

TheCodeisCupCake6/18/2018, 10:10:34 AM3 votes

How about a Red outlined bold message appears the last 30 seconds after everyone has locked in a champion (When you are choosing runes etc) that tells your team nobody has picked smite. The message is automated if, nobody has picked smite

Mreeshai6/19/2018, 5:38:23 AM2 votes

Alternatively, you could have it remember your last used spell combo for that position and use that as a default when you are selected for the same role in draft/ranked. I think it already does this when you change maps, at least. In ARAM I have different summoner spell combo remembered than in SR.

This is how it would work: -If you play Jungle role in Draft, your would get same summoners that you had the last time you played Jungle role. If you play Support role in Draft, your defaults would be the same summoners from the last time you played Support and so on. Very simple mechanic, people would get used to that and it is less controversial than forcibly changing one of your summoner's.

remakoro6/18/2018, 4:51:38 PM2 votes

wHaT if sOmeONe wAnt To SWAP HIS FUCKING ROLE? M? After getting autofilled for example?

Recon12126/18/2018, 4:05:57 PM2 votes

I think what would be the right thing to do in this scenario is if someone is in the JG role and they don't have smite selected at say 30 secs and 15 secs it will notify the player very noticeably and say "Hey buddy you need smite."

Another thing that they could do, is if someone who in in the JG role loads into game without smite, as long as they are in the fountain they can switch to only smite, one time and only switch back as long as they are in fountain. But the second they leave can't change. This would allow them to obviously get smite but wouldn't make it so they can abuse anything, they either need it and take it, or they don't and they leave it.

Purplesamosa6/19/2018, 8:29:57 AM1 votes

No offence to all design suggestions but they do show what you what, but take in mind that we do have unsealed spellbook.

What that tells us is that riot has the ability to swap summoner spells within game.

My suggestion is to have a store purchase that is limited to before 3:00 (remake time) to swap out any summomer spell that has not been used.

Upon attempting a purchase a UI button of the summoner spell chosen appears above your viable to swap summoner spells (much like Kai'sa evolve), when leaving the fountain this UI disappears in the case of a misclick purchase (the same way you're unable to undo when leaving the fountain).

Onkel Malte6/18/2018, 1:27:08 PM1 votes

It think shouldn't auto-switch upon starting the game. I think it should rather auto-switch your non-flash summoner upon being placed in the Lobby. You could change it back anytime, but that would help a lot against unwanted mistakes.

Mokuto Bunshi6/18/2018, 4:36:39 PM1 votes

I support this idea 100%

Nøctμrne6/18/2018, 5:41:28 PM1 votes

The reason it doesn't exist is because of players who switch positions in champion select.

Forcefully to giving a player a summoner spell is just another way Riot would be simplifying the game. The game doesn't start when the timer does, it starts in champion select, and neglecting to do certain things is the fault of the player.

The only way this would work would be if there was an option to actually trade roles in champion select. (Like how we trade champions).

Duke Dryfocker6/18/2018, 5:51:28 PM1 votes

Does anyone JG anymore? I think two top is actually better. I tried JG recently and it was so frustrating I almost quit the game.

dnsup6/19/2018, 7:22:46 AM1 votes

Or, how about this? Instead of a minutes-long (and nearly useless) loading screen, allow selection of summoner spells and runes (which have always and still frequently glitch--as in, malfunction completely, rather than revert to a previous state--if you haven't finished editing them before the loading screen pops).

You might object: "But what about the loading screen? The loading screen [of almost random duration, depending on network] gives players time to <x>, <y>, and <z>. If you don't see the enemy team's summoner spells &c., how will anyone <1>, <2>, or <3>?"

The loading screen frequently lasts as long as champion select, and it's not as if all information has to be displayed at the same time. And considering that the pre-game champion and role negotiation is definitively concluded when the loading screen pops up (champions all locked, etc.), there is plenty of time for these two things:

A limited re-selection of summoner spells (and maybe confirming runes) within a given time period
Revealing the teams' summoner spells/capstone selections to one another in time to allow <1>, <2>, <3>, and then some.

On paper, there are so many reasonable ways to smooth this rough edge in the software that I refuse to believe that none are practical. (Naturally, I have no way of knowing for certain; faith is my only option, absent privileged information).