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6 Noble buff is OP. Units are literally unkillable and they heal up all the damage dealt to them.

Cräfty·8/1/2019, 6:48:28 PM·3 votes·1,665 views

Although I agree that old Nobles needed a buff, I think Riot might have buffed them too much this patch (usual Riot stuff).

Getting + 60 armor and MR is pretty good on its own and it makes the units too tanky already. So why keep the +35 HP regen per hit?!

Having 60 more Armor/MR is already good enough to increase the survivability of your units. They're gonna take less physical and magic damage anyway, so why overload them with self healing on top of that?

Like... I had a very good Gunslinger (4) comp with a lot of other synergies to go along with it (especially Blademaster), and I had Lucian and Tristana, at 3 stars each, and stacked with 3 items each (trist had GA + Guinsoo's + Hush and Lucian had Red buff + Luden's + SoD). I faced the N°1 player late game and he had the 6 Noble buff. Our items were relatively the same, so no big item advantage for any of us. I kid you not, I couldn't touch his units. I couldn't kill any of his units and I couldn't even bring any of them below 50% HP! They were so tanky, and they healed up so much of the damage I did, so fast, that I stood no chance. I ended up 3rd that game and that player ended up winning the game with 78 HP to spare!

Taking less damage from practically all sources (except maybe True damage) and healing up a fuckton of HP in the process, has little to no counterplay. The only counterplay I could think of is having a stacked up 3 star Veigar one shotting everyone left and right. But besides that, I don't know any other ways to handle 6 Noble buff on the board, right now...

So please, Riot, either remove the healing part of the Noble buff, or tone down everything so we can stand a chance against it!

Does anyone have any idea of how to counter this monster of an origin, besides Veigar, please ?!

20 Comments

IWrath8/1/2019, 7:35:28 PM1 votes

item 1011 + item 1031 = [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Sire Hippington8/1/2019, 8:45:47 PM1 votes

They didn't buff them to much, they buffed them the wrong way. The main issue for noble is that it's really hard to get 6, and since the 3 noble off falls of quickly and they have 3 tier 1 and 1 tier 2 unit, their mid sucks really, really hard and their lategame can only save them if they find kayle+leona rather soon. They still are a rather bad strategie because of this, but feel overhelming if one gets all 6 in time

Jimmy Nuetrons8/1/2019, 9:17:32 PM1 votes

Nobles deserve to be incredibly OP, there are only 6 total, and youn eed all 6, and kayle and leona are almost impossible to get even when not doing nobles.

Titanium708/1/2019, 10:35:27 PM1 votes

Noble/Knights: Lategame scaling Trait that heavily counters AA heavy teams. Gunslingers: Early game, AA heavy Comp.

What exactly makes you think you should have even the slightest Chance?

Noble Knights basicly EXIST to counter your comp! (As well as Rangers) And it's a almost entirely useless trait during the entire midgame. Which comes with a high chance you never even get the Noble6 becuase you dont get the Kayle. And even IF you got the Kayle you're still running around with 1-Cost trash noone would ever want in his lategame comp.

And what beats Noble - Pretty much everything else! Ele, Imperial, every possible itteration of Sorcs, most Demons!

Panthaz898/1/2019, 10:54:42 PM1 votes

My team of voids says otherwise....sorry Gunslingers can't get off late game for a good reason because they are extremely strong early a lvl 1 trist with a 2 shivs can carry you through the majority of the game lmao. MF has been meh until they change the targeting on her ult so she can actually consistently wipe teams out.

PhearBunny8/1/2019, 11:12:11 PM1 votes

Gunslinger+Redbuff. Glacial. Yordle. Swain or any AoE champion+Morellos.

all hard counter Noble. Noble powerspikes hard when it hits 6/6, but it doesn't really ever get 1st place because anti-healing is very easy to come across and crap on Noble with.

Illabethe8/2/2019, 4:45:51 AM1 votes

I see you cry about EVERY build.

The only reason you lost is because you didn't have a strong front line. Noble sucks at taking out the front row, but instead of using a Knight/Brawler Comp, you used a Blademaster Comp, working on more or less redundancies to how Gunslinger works. Blademasters are not tanks, save Shen, and his skill's timing is more or less negated by Kayle's skill and Leona's stun.

In other words, once your invuln was over, so was theirs, but you had no defense left. After Shen's skill was over, you basically crumpled.

The counter to Noble teams are those who 1) Deny Mana 2) time their skills to after Shen's and can survive that long 3) have Grievous wounds (Morello/Red Buff)

You said Lucian had red buff, but I'm willing to bet he also skilled right into their team and took front line damage because of it. If he starts near a corner, his skill only has one way to go: toward the enemy, and toward Garen/Vayne isn't a direction Lucian wants to go.

P.S. Katarina's Ult also applies Grievous wounds, making a semi-assassin comp a Noble counter, if you can get her to last long enough to cast it. She can prevent up to 5 healing at once.......

P.S. I'm willing to bet as the last two.... your opponent ALSO had Gunslinger. I've had Gunslinger (4) + Noble (6) several times.... all it takes is one FoN.

Dunker8/3/2019, 9:12:09 PM1 votes

Agreed. Noble buff is beyond broken. I'm just glad its nearly impossible to find all 6