Why is Riot giving a single, True damage Synergy 3 Assassins?

Illabethe·Sep 13, 2019·2 votes·1,360 views

It's recently and noticeably been discovered that is best at being an assassin of all general champs due to his ease of 3 star, and AD growth.

So....... why is Riot making our next unit ? Ranger Assassin VOID

Riot just basically introduced our first Duo synergy Trio, and not only that, they scale off each other (Void on True damage can still Crit)

are almost ALL capable of being assassins, and are a solid team on their own. Add in at least 2 more Brawlers, ( ) + a random like and you basically have a True damage team with both tankiness, Crit rate, and zone control.

Why is Riot doing this?

#PS In the same PBE, Riot is making 3 Star Mordekaiser's skill 850 Base AP damage? WTF? That makes him almost Aatrox level damage at a 1 Tier! He was 450 base. Almost a 100% increase in damage..... Never mind that Kai Sa ALSO fits into the Phantom/Ranger/Knight build.....

13 Comments

Z3SIeeperSep 13, 20192 votes

Gotta remember Void is being nerfed.

(2) - One random Void deals true damage (4) - All Void deal true damage

Also Mordekaiser is ass and his ability only hits 2 units. His ability will deal 850 to 2 units, that's potential 1900 damage.

Meanwhile Aatrox has a 2 target potential of 1800, and a max potential of 5400. That's not even comparable.

IllabetheSep 13, 20191 votes

Not like that's a drawback considering the abundance of Void
Aatrox has almost identical damage to the upcoming Morde. I don't know where you're getting that crazy stats.

His base is 300/600/900 Morde's Base will be 250/550/850.

Aatrox can hit a larger area, but he's a 3 Tier Unit. Morde is a 1 tier. Who will get 3 Starred every game. Aatrox gets 3 Starred maybe 1 in 20 games.

Z3SIeeperSep 13, 20191 votes

Aatrox hits a 1 hex wide area. 7 hexes minus the one he's standing on = 6. 6 * 900 = 5400.

Anyway, 3 star Garen deals 810 damage to potentially more targets while also being magic immune.

IllabetheSep 13, 20191 votes

And in many cases, those hexes are unoccupied, or occupied by allies. When I go Sorcerer Aatrox, each swipe is lucky to kill 2-3 at best.

The point is still that Aatrox generally only gets to 2 stars, and Mordekaiser can reliably get to 3 stars.

Z3SIeeperSep 13, 20191 votes

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Anyway, 3 star Garen deals 810 damage to potentially more targets while also being magic immune.

IllabetheSep 13, 20191 votes

Over 5 seconds versus instantly. Can't gain mana while spinning either.

Z3SIeeperSep 13, 20191 votes

Yeah it's a fair enough trade-off for having magic immunity.

In any case, imo a 3 star 1 cost should have more impact than a similar non-utility 2 star 3 cost.

I find it much harder to 3 star a 1 cost than 2 star a 3 cost.

That said, 2 star Aatrox is typically much more impactful due to Blademaster or Demon causing his ability to go off much faster/more often.

Poop JellySep 13, 20191 votes

I find it weird too. Void Assassins is one of the stronger comps out there already, and now introducing the 5 Cost units with hyper attack spd, it's going to be another case of broken Pantheon.

I also foresee that if it's too strong and needs toned down, they will more likely nerf Void/Assassins or other champions instead of Kaisa, cus by all means she's been getting nothing but favoritism from Devs since her debut on SR.

Sire HippingtonSep 13, 20191 votes

Morde needs alot more mana which he gains slower due lower AA dps, and he only hits two tiels in a row compared to Aatrox's full 1tiel aoe which means up to 7 targets. Morde was trash and can use the buffs. And Aatrox seriously should get his base hp nerf reverted, he's not in a good spot atm.

Kaisa though...that one is pure bullshit. 3perks that all focus on damage and a high tier ranger then rangers are already really strong, aswell as high tier void/assasin then void assasins are strong already...what could possibly go wrong

Chogath Gnar Kaisa Khazix Nidalee Rengar RekSai Warwick for void/wild/assasin so you can't dodge the truedamage crits and room for either a 4th brawler, 2end Ranger or 3ed shapeshifter

IllabetheSep 13, 20191 votes

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Morde needs alot more mana which he gains slower due lower AA dps, and he only hits two tiels in a row compared to Aatrox's full 1tiel aoe which means up to 7 targets. Morde was trash and can use the buffs. And Aatrox seriously should get his base hp nerf reverted, he's not in a good spot atm.

Kaisa though...that one is pure bullshit. 3perks that all focus on damage and a high tier ranger then rangers are already really strong, aswell as high tier void/assasin then void assasins are strong already...what could possibly go wrong

for void/wild/assasin so you can't dodge the truedamage crits and room for either a 4th brawler, 2end Ranger or 3ed shapeshifter

Morde doesn't gain mana slow, because he's a front liner. Like any Knight, he gains mana from being HIT.

Sire HippingtonSep 13, 20191 votes

it still needs rather long compared to Aatrox, and if he gets to much focus, chances are high that some CC effects from items or glacial/demon shut him down befor he can cast. I really don't think morde actually doing damage with his cast will be a big issue.

Imperial PandaaSep 13, 20191 votes

So a squishy ranger is going to jump into melee range? Or do Assassins only jump into their combat range? Can't say I know since most Assassin's are melee.

IllabetheSep 13, 20191 votes

Hard to tell. Keep in mind; Assassins are generally squishy too; the only difference is that by order of priority, they generally aren't targetted until the primary targets their victims chose are killed. In other words, she'll have already done her job by the time she's focused. She's also a 5 Tier, so she'll have more built in HP/Armor as well.